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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 9 2016 10:03 AM

Chris duMond:
• (NEW) Expanded exclusive discounts on select products and services, promotions, and free resources in a “members-only” web page. 
     - Discounts on Logos catalog titles
     - Discounts on Lexham/Kirkdale titles
     - Discounts on Mobile Ed courses

At present, Verbum Now does not advertise these or other discounts, however having Verbum Now is allowing me to see these discounts. 

1. Is it intentional that Verbum Now members have access to these discounts?

2. Will Verbum Now members continue to have access to Logos Now discounts?

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James Taylor | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 9 2016 12:14 PM

Chris duMond:
• Access to 6,000+ pieces of premium still and video media 

"Logos Now members gain access to exclusive media collections that are only available through subscription. Enjoy over 6,000 pieces of premium still and motion media, including beautiful, hand-crafted slides for your presentations, photographs to enhance your biblical understanding, Bible verse animations, and more!"

Is this the same media content that we previously had access to as part of our NOW subscription or has new content been added?

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James Taylor | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 9 2016 12:21 PM

The reason I'm asking is because the email I just received implies that it's new...

"

Your Logos Now Membership just got better

You already know that your Logos Now membership gives you access to the latest Bible-study features, and lets you get month-long preview access to select resources. But now it’s getting even better. Your membership now includes:

  • Exclusive discounts on a range of top resources
  • Free access to select Mobile Ed content
  • Members-only media, including beautiful, hand-crafted slides for your presentations, photographs to enhance your biblical understanding, Bible verse animations, and more!"

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 9 2016 12:37 PM

James Taylor:
Is this the same media content that we previously had access to as part of our NOW subscription or has new content been added?

I believe new content has been added... meaning: Previously there was content acquired via a base package and/or cross grade purchase. ALL of the older datasets are now included. If you owned them already, there is nothing "new" (although new materials continue to be made and added). 

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 9 2016 12:39 PM

Any idea how to access the media? Media browser?

I hope the videos are downloadable for offline use

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Erwin Stull, Sr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 9 2016 12:45 PM

Mattillo:

I hope the videos are downloadable for offline use

I will be watching for this also. For me, it doesn't matter so much if they are downloadable to the desktop, but I like to download resources that I am interested in on the mobile.

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Yasmin Stephen | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 9 2016 1:05 PM

Mattillo:

I hope the videos are downloadable for offline use

Yes, please! If not downloaded trying to view them is a serious pain for me Sad

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Yasmin Stephen | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 9 2016 1:17 PM

I'm satisfied with the new and improved Logos Now but, if you're feeling extra nice, please feel free to throw in access to FaithLifeTV as an additional membership perk Cool

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 9 2016 1:20 PM

That would be nice! I like the desilva videos but you can't download them. I hope they fix that too

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Greg Corbin | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 9 2016 2:40 PM

Just now having time to quickly look through this new program. Here are three quick conclusions that I drew. Please correct me if I am incorrect on any....

1)  Rather than being a new thing, this is an improvement upon and clarification of Logos Now in light of Logos 7 likely being released later this Fall.

2)  As a present Logos Now subscriber who is paid through October, I am automatically enrolled in the new membership program until it is time for my annual renewal. 

3)  My Logos Now subscription is now more valuable for the same $$ and I have several questions answered.

Personally, I like this idea.  Logos is better off because they have a more consistent revenue stream, and I am better off because I have more value for my money and locked in discounts at any point. At first glance, I say "Great job, Logos and Faithlife!"

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Aaron Sauer | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 9 2016 2:44 PM

I'm a day into this and love it so far. Good value for my money. Cutting back on Starbucks and going out to lunch will easily make up the $90/year. I'm pretty happy with my current library so having access to extra features and future updates is a huge plus for me. If only Hebrew Audio Pronunciation was included!

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 9 2016 8:09 PM

NB.Mick:

Rick Ausdahl:
I have a vague memory from early on in the initial/original Logos Now offer, of people posting about huge automatic library downloads as a result of becoming a Logos Now member.  If that was the case, will the same thing happen now?

I think you may confuse this with Logos Cloud (which, after all, resembles a base package) where people did not expect something they thought resided in the cloud downloading to their machine. Logos Now will probably download a couple of interactives and some of the monthly free resources, but not a huge library. 

Thanks NB.Mick.  It probably was the Cloud.

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mike | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 9 2016 8:38 PM

I feel like LN has very little to offer to those who will buy complete L7 base package (Gold & above). Why?

  1. LN will have no new features for at least the next 3-4 months after the release of L7. And if they do have new features, that means, Logos is playing the evil-apple trick; not releasing full complete L7 capabilities but instead charging those other features that suppose to be released on L7 on day 1 to be on LN instead. 
  2. This "special discount" for members thingy, is weird. It just means, you have to pay to get discount... it kinda beats the purpose. (although it is a normal practice, it is too very aggressive for Christian business model).

On the other hand I do like the Mobile Ed perks (although I hope the video offers shouldn't be the same as Mobile Ed Subscription's offers)

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 9 2016 10:40 PM

mike:
LN will have no new features for at least the next 3-4 months after the release of L7. And if they do have new features, that means, Logos is playing the evil-apple trick; not releasing full complete L7 capabilities but instead charging those other features that suppose to be released on L7 on day 1 to be on LN instead. 

I doubt this given the discipline of the 6 week cycle -- this type of shenanigans would be hard to maintain version control on. I would expect the first couple of versions to contain primarily things that beta testers requested too late in the 6 week cycle and features that were pulled because the beta testers found too serious problems to be resolved in the 6 week cycle. In short, I expect the 6 week cycle to work pretty much like cycles prior to the major release.

mike:
This "special discount" for members thingy, is weird. It just means, you have to pay to get discount...

Think Amazon Prime, Costco membership ... each individual has to determine for themselves if the discounts exceed the membership cost.

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 10 2016 12:03 AM

Aaron Sauer:
If only Hebrew Audio Pronunciation was included!

Invent your own pronunciations...that's what Buth does.

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Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 10 2016 12:35 AM

This sounds all very good but I just want to make sure I understand it right: essentially, the only things I would NOT be getting by acquiring Now as opposed to Logos 7 is (a) permanent ownership and (b) titles included in Logos 7 libraries. Is that correct?

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Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 10 2016 12:43 AM

mike:
I feel like LN has very little to offer to those who will buy complete L7 base package

Not sure I agree with this. For me the value is monetary: the primary reason I would get a L7 package is for functionality not resources. This being the case, and considering a 2 years upgrade cycle, will upgrading from a L6 to a L7 package with all the new features cost me less than 180$? (I am counting the cost for 2 years I'd be enjoying my L7 package until L8). Or do you see it differently?

The only downside I see is that if all the sudden, down the road, FL decides to increase the cost of membership significantly, those who don't own would be faced with the difficult decision of either paying up or else reverting to ownership (which could have also increased significantly at the same time).

I hope that membership does not rely excessively on Internet access. I often have to work offline and don't want to be limited or inconvenienced when that happens...

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Sean | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 10 2016 12:49 AM

Francis:

This sounds all very good but I just want to make sure I understand it right: essentially, the only things I would NOT be getting by acquiring Now as opposed to Logos 7 is (a) permanent ownership and (b) titles included in Logos 7 libraries. Is that correct?

That is my understanding, with the caveat for (a) that you'd have the (otherwise free) L7 engine to keep but not the datasets & other pay features, should you ever drop Now.

For me, this seems to open up a lot of possibilities when 7 rolls, assuming it's anything like 6 was. Instead of having to buy a gold-level or higher library or the most expensive crossgrade option, I could just buy a silver package and still have all the L7 features. Or, maybe I'll buy two starter or bronze-level denominational packages instead of just one higher level package. I won't have to hurry and make a decision right away to see everything debuting in L7 because I'll have it through Now. All things being equal, I like the abundance of options this should provide.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 10 2016 12:55 AM

Francis:
I hope that membership does not rely excessively on Internet access. I often have to work offline and don't want to be limited or inconvenienced when that happens...

What we have seen in the previous Logos Now model is that some of the features do require Internet access - but the majority don't.

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Louis St. Hilaire | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 10 2016 9:52 AM

SineNomine:

At present, Verbum Now does not advertise these or other discounts, however having Verbum Now is allowing me to see these discounts. 

1. Is it intentional that Verbum Now members have access to these discounts?

2. Will Verbum Now members continue to have access to Logos Now discounts?

1. Yes. (We're not linking to the members-only page yet because the info about any resources automatically added to your library may not apply, and many of the featured discounts aren't things we're going to promote to a Catholic audience. We're hoping to create an equivalent page for Verbum Now on verbum.com soon, or come up with some other means of communicating this info.)

2. Generally, yes. (I'm keeping my options open in case some reason arises to keep a discount exclusive or distinct, but I can't really think of any.)

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