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Fr Devin Roza | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Sep 13 2016 1:31 AM

Currently the Bible Browser allows you to "send to search panel", which sends the reference range of your filtered results to a search panel.

Please add the option to send a search query to the search panel.

Almost all, if not all, of the filters run by the Bible Browser can be replicated in the Search Panel. It would be great if users could use the Bible Browser to construct complex queries that they can then look at and work with in the search panel. 

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 13 2016 1:37 AM

Nice ideaYes

Fr Devin Roza:
Currently the Bible Browser allows you to "send to search panel", which sends the reference range of your filtered results to a search panel.

Looking at it again the "send to search panel" just seems to open a blank search panel.

Am I missing something?

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 13 2016 3:19 AM

If the option read "Send passages to search panel", it would be much less confusing.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 13 2016 3:26 AM

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):

Thanks Bradley - I had missed that

But I'm still just getting a standard search panel not filtered by the Passages from the Bible Browser

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Mark Barnes:

If the option read "Send passages to search panel", it would be much less confusing.

On my system it says "Send these results to a new ... Search panel". Is that not clear enough?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 13 2016 7:45 AM

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):
On my system it says "Send these results to a new ... Search panel".

I think Mark's point is that it isn't sending results - it is sending a set of passages.

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Graham Criddle:
But I'm still just getting a standard search panel not filtered by the Passages from the Bible Browser

I can reproduce this and I've asked a developer to investigate.

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Graham Criddle:
I think Mark's point is that it isn't sending results - it is sending a set of passages.

That may be the source of the misunderstanding; in our mind, the verses/pericopes are the results.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 13 2016 8:16 AM

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):

Graham Criddle:
But I'm still just getting a standard search panel not filtered by the Passages from the Bible Browser

I can reproduce this and I've asked a developer to investigate.

Thanks Bradley

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 13 2016 9:38 AM

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):

Mark Barnes:

If the option read "Send passages to search panel", it would be much less confusing.

On my system it says "Send these results to a new ... Search panel". Is that not clear enough?

If it was clear enough, we wouldn't be having these discussions Smile.

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Mark Barnes:

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):

Mark Barnes:

If the option read "Send passages to search panel", it would be much less confusing.

On my system it says "Send these results to a new ... Search panel". Is that not clear enough?

If it was clear enough, we wouldn't be having these discussions Smile.

If we changed the word "results" to "passages" in the current UI, would that be sufficient?

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Fr Devin Roza | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 13 2016 1:34 PM

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):

Graham Criddle:
But I'm still just getting a standard search panel not filtered by the Passages from the Bible Browser

I can reproduce this and I've asked a developer to investigate.

FYI, send to resource is also broken.

If you really want the current option to be clear, something like "Search Panel reference range" would do the trick. "Send passages" would also help.

And, for the record, I did not start this thread to suggest the option was unclear, but to suggest an additional "send to" option be added. Smile If a Bible Browser facet that wasn't supported in search panel was selected, the "send to search panel query" option could simply be disabled. It should be easy to identify which facets are not supported.

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Fr Devin Roza:
And, for the record, I did not start this thread to suggest the option was unclear, but to suggest an additional "send to" option be added.

Sorry that your thread got hijacked, but I did already respond to that suggestion above. We do not currently plan to make the Bible Browser double as a "query builder" tool.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 13 2016 3:00 PM

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):
If we changed the word "results" to "passages" in the current UI, would that be sufficient?

It would certainly help.

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Fr Devin Roza:

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):

Graham Criddle:
But I'm still just getting a standard search panel not filtered by the Passages from the Bible Browser

I can reproduce this and I've asked a developer to investigate.

FYI, send to resource is also broken.

The "Send To" menu should now be fixed. (You may have to close and reopen Bible Browser first.)

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 13 2016 3:33 PM

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):
The "Send To" menu should now be fixed. (You may have to close and reopen Bible Browser first.)

It is - Thanks Bradley

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Cynthia in Florida | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 24 2016 11:49 AM

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):

Fr Devin Roza:
And, for the record, I did not start this thread to suggest the option was unclear, but to suggest an additional "send to" option be added.

Sorry that your thread got hijacked, but I did already respond to that suggestion above. We do not currently plan to make the Bible Browser double as a "query builder" tool.

I posted this in another thread but it seems more appropriate here!

FYI:  I resisted Logos Now all this time...and two days ago I saw a video on Bible Browser.  I thought to myself, "Self, this is awesome!  It's like the Bible Brower allows me to, with the click of some buttons, build a query, and since I REALLY stink at these searches, maybe this is a great place to start!  From here, I can look at the queries that Bible Browser created and learn from them!"

So...yesterday I purchased Logos Now.  I figured I would check it out a bit and if I didn't like it, "return" it within the allotted time frame.  I guess my point is this.  If you were targeting the Bible Browser as a tool for those who "don't understand our complicated search syntax," then I would tell you that you certainly succeeded.  Absolutely everything else in Logos Now, I felt I could live without.  This ONE tool made me decide to purchase my subscription.  I'm telling you all this say., I understand from Fr. Roza's thread that it is not designed in a way to be able to copy over the syntactical query, but it sure would be nice since it would be a great tool to USE immediately, plus by having the syntactical query available, it would be teaching  those of us who "don't understand our complicated search syntax."

Now that I've had the Bible Browser for the past day or two, and I see that I cannot see the query search in order to learn from it or create filters, I might not keep it.

Cynthia

Romans 8:28-38

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