Incorporating Bible Verses Into Sermon for Proclaim

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George Varghese | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Sep 21 2016 2:34 PM

Hello.

Is it possible to pull in verses from the On-Screen Bible directly into a sermon presentation? Currently, the sermon is broken up into several different presentations. Anytime, some Scripture needs to be added to the sermon, it is added as a new presentation, followed by yet another presentation with the next block of sermon points. This results in a sermon broken up into 7 or 8 presentations based on how much Scripture is being incorporated. If it is possible to incorporate Scripture directly into a sermon, we could have a single presentation for the entire sermon.

Besides having the sermon broken up into parts makes it rather difficult to add a Countdown Timer for the sermon (if that were possible). More on that in another query.

I found this article https://blog.logos.com/2016/09/5-reasons-pastors-will-love-sermon-editor-logos-7/ about adding Scripture references directly into sermons using Sermon Editor. It states:

"Let’s talk about inserting verse text. You’ve just got to see this. Any time you place a Scripture reference on its own line and hit enter, Sermon Editor copies that verse from your preferred Bible into your sermon."

Will that work in Proclaim as well? Or is Sermon Editor a different piece of software, and the functionality is not present in Proclaim?

Thank you in advance for any help.

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Peter June | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 21 2016 2:58 PM

Hi George,

First, welcome to the Proclaim community! You've got a few questions here, I'd like to shed some light on them one at a time:

Is it possible to pull in verses from the On-Screen Bible directly into a sermon presentation?

Absolutely! You can add an On-Screen Bible service item from the "Add Item" menu or by pressing Ctrl + Shift + O. Drag and drop anywhere in your presentation, add as many references you'd like from your preferred Bible, and choose styling. Here's a short article on the OSB.

I should also note that the OSB is available as a quick screen (info on quick screens/how to use them here). If you're delivering your sermon and want to display Scripture on the fly, this is a great option.

Besides having the sermon broken up into parts makes it rather difficult to add a Countdown Timer for the sermon (if that were possible). More on that in another query.

You shouldn't have to use multiple presentations. If you're looking to add a countdown timer for the service itself, I'd recommend learning about the warm-up section here. If you want to add a countdown timer to a specific slide (e.g. the sermon starts halfway through the presentation and you want it to have its own separate countdown) you can either add a countdown video from the media browser by searching "countdown" or show a timer on that specific slide.

I found this article https://blog.logos.com/2016/09/5-reasons-pastors-will-love-sermon-editor-logos-7/ about adding Scripture references directly into sermons using Sermon Editor.

We're really pleased to have fully integrated the Sermon Editor in Logos with Proclaim! Here's a thorough step-by-step description of how to take advantage of this integration.

Thank you in advance for any help.

We offer free 1:1 personal training sessions with members of the Proclaim team. They're a great way to get really specific questions answered, especially considering that everyone has their own desired workflow. We'll contact you with some details!

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George Varghese | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 21 2016 3:22 PM

Hello  Peter,

Thanks for the quick reply. I'd like some clarification about the solutions you've provided.

  • Absolutely! You can add an On-Screen Bible service item from the "Add Item" menu or by pressing Ctrl + Shift + O. Drag and drop anywhere in your presentation, add as many references you'd like from your preferred Bible, and choose styling.

Does this mean that I can create an OSB service item outside of the sermon, and then drag it into the required location in the sermon? Unfortunately, OSB as a Quick Screen is not going to work for us. We may not be able to bring up the Quick Screen quickly enough when the pastor cues us for it while he is delivering the sermon.

  • If you want to add a countdown timer to a specific slide (e.g. the sermon starts halfway through the presentation and you want it to have its own separate countdown) you can either add a countdown video from the media browser by searching "countdown" or show a timer on that specific slide.

I think we have it set up, that way, but it didn't show up the last time. I need to verify that before I can respond to this. It could be the fact that the sermon was composed of multiple presentations as I outlined in my initial post.

I'm not sure if our church has purchase Sermon Editor in Logos as well as Proclaim. I need to look into that.

  • We offer free 1:1 personal training sessions with members of the Proclaim team. They're a great way to get really specific questions answered, especially considering that everyone has their own desired workflow. We'll contact you with some details!

Thank you, Peter. Our Worship Pastor has mentioned this, and is trying to get a suitable time for the entire Media team to be present so that he can set it up.

Thanks for everything, Peter.

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    Peter June | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 21 2016 3:39 PM

    Does this mean that I can create an OSB service item outside of the sermon, and then drag it into the required location in the sermon? Unfortunately, OSB as a Quick Screen is not going to work for us. We may not be able to bring up the Quick Screen quickly enough when the pastor cues us for it while he is delivering the sermon.

    Whenever you add a service item to your presentation it will populate directly underneath the service item you've got selected currently. In the example below (it's an animated .gif that won't autoplay, so you'll have to save it) I add an OSB item directly beneath my currently selected item (Jeremiah). I can drag and drop that OSB item anywhere in the sermon if I decide that i want it somewhere else. Does this answer your question?

    I think we have it set up, that way, but it didn't show up the last time. I need to verify that before I can respond to this. It could be the fact that the sermon was composed of multiple presentations as I outlined in my initial post.

    Checked it out -- looks like you did it perfectly!

    Any other questions feel free to send them our way.

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    George Varghese | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 21 2016 9:11 PM

    Peter,

    I think I may not have explained my need adequately. I was not asking about adding an OSB item below another item. I was wondering whether I could make the OSB item part of the sermon itself.

    Take the sermon in the Example Presentation. It comprises of 3 parts:

    1. the opening presentation "Sermon: Let Your Life Shine";
    2. the OSB item Phlippians 2:14-15; and
    3. the main portion of the sermon "Sermon Outline"

    In my ideal scenario, they would all be part of a single presentation. Further, the "Sermon Outline" has references to 2 Scriptures; Ephesians 5:8–14 and 1 John 1:7. What I was hoping for was to have the actual Scripture and not just the citation in the "Sermon Outline" presentation. So, everything - the opening slide, all the Scriptures and the sermon outline would form one big presentation.

    Looking at the Example Presentation, I am beginning to think this may not actually be possible. If I am wrong, please advise me on how to make it happen.

    Thank you

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    Michael Wright | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 22 2016 4:54 AM

    Has anyone mentioned the ability to embed scripture directly into a content slide. Just enclose the scripture reference in double brackets, [[John 3: 16]]. When proclaim sees the brackets it will insert a Bible slide for you.  I typically type complete sermon notes into a single sermon outline slide using all the built-in shortcuts; Page Break --, Line Fade-In ++, and Scripture [[ ]]. Proclaim does the rest.

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    George Varghese | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 22 2016 7:20 AM

    Michael,

    This sounds exactly like what I need. Thank you. I'll to try it out this evening when I get on to Proclaim.

    Thanks again

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    Scott Alexander | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 22 2016 8:36 AM

    Here is a support article on using the embedded Bible verse feature - http://support.proclaimonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/204445815-How-do-I-use-an-Embedded-Bible-Verse-

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    George Varghese | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 22 2016 9:42 AM

    Thanks, Scott. Wish I had seen this earlier. I didn't realize there was more than one page of articles in the General section.

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    Peter June | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 22 2016 10:20 AM

    Michael, do you mind sharing a screenshot of one of your sermon content service items? George would probably find it useful to see your workflow.

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    Michael Wright | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 22 2016 2:16 PM

    Here is a sermon from a few weeks back that provides a good example of my process. I have included a screen shot and word document with the complete contents of my sermon outline content slide.

    5556.Sample Sermon.pdf

    3348.Sample Sermon.docx

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    George Varghese | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 22 2016 4:57 PM

    Gentlemen, I just tried this, and it is exactly what I needed. Thank you, Peter, Michael and Scott, for all your help. It is much appreciated.

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    Dave Hill | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 14 2016 11:06 AM

    I've similarly suggested the ability to add a scripture content slide within a song Michael. I think your method would be a nice solution for adding scripture to both single sermon outline slides as well as within songs (which are also single slides).

    Add a Scripture Slide within Song Slides

    Dave Hill

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