'New Tab' Voted Longest Surviving Bizarre Feature in Logos

I made that up. And if the feature has been fixed in 7.0128 or 7.143 (I made that up also), please ignore. Or just ignore.

I've watched New Tab now, for almost 7 years. It's a feature that could be one of Logos' best. Unfortunately, not.

Looking at mine (NASB previous tab, from Cynthia's issue still in place):

- Some big covers on the left; some little ones on the right. They seem to overlap, though neither in any apparent order. No header as a clue.

- The left group starts with some Logos tools, but then the tools dribble down, to include a random passage guide, an old word study, highlighting, and near the bottom, a sense lexicon. The irony is that none of the old BWS and passage guides are in my Guides section ... deleted long ago.

- The left-panel has a scrollbar to the far-right; the right panel doesn't. Since the right list exceeds the left list, you literally can't select any below the viewable list.

- On the larger covers side (left) the titling varies ... some an abbrieviation, others the long-title (abbreviated). Or a commentary with a series name.

- I thought the resources were parallel, but the NASB is said to be paralleled by 'Age of the Sages' ... a monograph and totally unrelated. Who knows.

I say it could be one of the best, if it had a text box to pull up possible resources to add (one or more). But not.

What are we shooting for .... Logos9?

EDIT: Actually the vote for longest bizarre feature was close. The runner-up was the scroll-bar tracks. That one failed within minutes of L4's release, with everyone adviced to turn it off. It's like detectives walking all over the tracks they're trying to analyze. Kindle's tracks demo the correct approach ... displays the most recent.

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Greg F

Agreed, I've never been able to understand how and why the new tab button functions the way that it does.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/853732#Comment_853732

TIP of the day: New Tab Panel

Resources listed when opening new tabs

As for the wear marks and search marks, I actually like them but wish they could be cleared at the resource level.

Dave Hooton

Looking at mine (NASB previous tab, from Cynthia's issue still in place):

- Some big covers on the left; some little ones on the right. They seem to overlap, though neither in any apparent order. No header as a clue.

- The left group starts with some Logos tools, but then the tools dribble down, to include a random passage guide, an old word study, highlighting, and near the bottom, a sense lexicon.

Next to ESV I get what appears to be recently used/opened panels on the left, then a list of 'parallel' bibles (no surprises)

Next to the Quran (September preview) I get the same covers on the left, then a list of Sacred Books from the other September 'Now' previews.

Next to Factbook I get the same covers on the left, then a list of Tools (not all)/Documents/Guides

Next to Info (in its unique tile) there is one column listing Lookup/Social/Passage tools that weren't listed next to Factbook.

TC, Passage Analysis, Highlighting and Ask the Author were not listed anywhere, along with two others that I don't miss!

There is some method, but slightly quirky.

BTW, this is the most I've ever used the 'New tab'!

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/853748#Comment_853748

Well, having read MJ's reference > Mary Ellen, I think the UI bizarre-ity vote count should be kicked up a notch. I didn't know it doesn't 'new tab' relative to the tab you're in.

I notice the accessibility to the right side of the panel varies in everyone's screen shots. In my layout only the top is accessible, even with the left fully scrolled.

I'm happy we were able to locate Dr Livingston (MJ, as a user of the scroll tracks).

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/853766#Comment_853766

[:D]

Cynthia in Florida

I made that up. And if the feature has been fixed in 7.0128 or 7.143 (I made that up also), please ignore. Or just ignore.

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I've watched New Tab now, for almost 7 years. It's a feature that could be one of Logos' best. Unfortunately, not.

Looking at mine (NASB previous tab, from Cynthia's issue still in place):

- Some big covers on the left; some little ones on the right. They seem to overlap, though neither in any apparent order. No header as a clue.

- The left group starts with some Logos tools, but then the tools dribble down, to include a random passage guide, an old word study, highlighting, and near the bottom, a sense lexicon. The irony is that none of the old BWS and passage guides are in my Guides section ... deleted long ago.

- The left-panel has a scrollbar to the far-right; the right panel doesn't. Since the right list exceeds the left list, you literally can't select any below the viewable list.

- On the larger covers side (left) the titling varies ... some an abbrieviation, others the long-title (abbreviated). Or a commentary with a series name.

- I thought the resources were parallel, but the NASB is said to be paralleled by 'Age of the Sages' ... a monograph and totally unrelated. Who knows.

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I say it could be one of the best, if it had a text box to pull up possible resources to add (one or more). But not.

What are we shooting for .... Logos9?

EDIT: Actually the vote for longest bizarre feature was close. The runner-up was the scroll-bar tracks. That one failed within minutes of L4's release, with everyone adviced to turn it off. It's like detectives walking all over the tracks they're trying to analyze. Kindle's tracks demo the correct approach ... displays the most recent.

DENISE!

The majority of the time you either

A. Speak computer jargon that is WAAAAY too far over my head or

B. Talk about stuff that is so far out there for me (in a good way [:D]) that I just ask myself..."WHAT THE HECK IS THE QUESTION...NEVER MIND THE ANSWER!

This post...it had me chuckling (I wonder if that was even your intent.) [;)]

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/853791#Comment_853791

Well, Cynthia, rumor has it, I'm a bot.

And admittedly I'm not sure why I get so amused.

I can't figure out, if Logos is trying to sell to their existing base ('More features!!! Locate words that no one knows what they mean!!'). Or potential new customers ('Sure our software isn't easy, but watching 57 videos, you'll love it!'

Well, at least next week, my 4th copy of Philo will be shipping!! And tagged too!

Cynthia in Florida

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/853807#Comment_853807

Thank you! I just had a full belly laugh! [:D]

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/853807#Comment_853807

Since MJ flagged this thread just this morning, https://community.logos.com/forums/p/212810/1241371.aspx#1241371 I checked to see how the LSBF (Longesst Surviving Bizarre Feature) was doing 6 years later.

Clicking 'New Tab' to my monograph, displays some tools (eg Search) and then a whole bunch of books ... almost all of which are in my current layout. Gee, thanks, guys!.

Now, let's just say I'm thinking of not the books I already have open? It has a 'Library' choice (good). I select my treasured book to open, and .... it opens it promptly on another window! Gee thanks, guys!

But this morning, I noticed another customer trying to understand the wear-marks-on-a-scroll-bar feature. What is this in the margin? I'm thinking THAT feature might actually be proposed as the even longer LSBF? Or .... FMOTO! (feature most often turned off).

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1241373#Comment_1241373

I'm thinking THAT feature might actually be proposed as the even longer LSBF?

It wouldn't be if the wear marks could be cleared by resource; people would learn to use them where they are useful.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1241385#Comment_1241385

It wouldn't be if the wear marks could be cleared by resource; people would learn to use them where they are useful.

Oh, I agree completely.

I've wondered how 'low use', is distinguished from 'poor design'. I think Kindle has last 5 or similar. I can 'even' see bookmarks included (the heavens shudder ...shhhh).