Em dash or hyphen in NIV UK version

Graham Criddle
Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,707
edited November 2024 in English Forum

As the screenshot shows the Logos version of NIV2011 (anglicised) has an em dash (or it could be an en dash) in Hebrews 7:26 (also happens elsewhere) whereas the Bible Gateway version shows a hyphen (I don't have a paper copy to check which is "original")

For our purposes - printing out portions of scripture for readings in church - the hyphen would be preferable.

Why is there the discrepancy, which is "correct"?

Thanks, Graham 

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  • KJ Niblett
    KJ Niblett Member Posts: 270

    grammar tells me it should be an em dash

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,707
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/868777#Comment_868777

    Kelvin Niblett said:

    grammar tells me it should be an em dash

    Maybe (but my understanding is that an em dash is used more widely in the US than in the UK hence my reference to an anglicised resource) but I would have thought that the Logos resource should match the printed one.

  • Jonathan Pitts
    Jonathan Pitts Member Posts: 670 ✭✭

    In Logos, it is an unspaced em dash (quite clearly in the font I use). On Bible Gateway, it is a spaced en dash (compare the shorter hyphen, above it in the name of the version).

    Either form of dash is correct punctuation. The unspaced em dash is more common in the US, the spaced en dash in the UK. However, Oxford (and I) use the unspaced em dash. A hyphen in incorrect, but it is often used online for ease of typing.

    I don't have a print NIV 2011, but my old Anglicised [Anglicized in Oxford spelling] NIV 1984 uses unspaced em dashes.

    Hope this helps.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,707
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/868803#Comment_868803

    Jonathan Pitts said:

    On Bible Gateway, it is a spaced en dash (compare the shorter hyphen, above it in the name of the version).

    Good point - thanks.

    Jonathan Pitts said:

    I don't have a print NIV 2011, but my old Anglicised [Anglicized in Oxford spelling] NIV 1984 uses unspaced em dashes.

    Thanks - that caused me to check mine (1984) and it also has the unspaced em dash.

    Anyone with an anglicised NIV2011 version they can check?

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,707
    https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/868812#Comment_868812

    Graham Criddle said:

    Anyone with an anglicised NIV2011 version they can check?

    I found one and it has the spacing between the dash (sorry about the orientation of the picture)

    Anyone from Faithlife able to comment on whether this could be changed?

    Thanks, Graham 

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