Basics of Biblical Hebrew

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Keith Pang | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Dec 31 2016 4:14 PM

Does anyone think this is necessary to have while learning? Or is there a way to do this in Logos without this book? 

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Vincent Chia | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 31 2016 4:32 PM

Hey bro,

The text by the same author would have what you need, which is plenty.

Charts are useful when you have mastered the entire course as they serve as a quick reference when doing translation/exercises. Again, i believe the contents of the charts are contained in the main textbook.

But hey, it's only $19 bucks on Amazon. Why not if you have extra cash ;)

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Keith Pang | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 31 2016 4:35 PM

Thanks for the input. It was recommended by the video of the introduction. That's why I was curious 

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Keith Pang | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 31 2016 4:36 PM

Not too much extra cash just want to learn it the right way lol 

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Ronald Quick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 31 2016 5:43 PM

I can't speak to the Hebrew, but I purchased the laminated charts for the Basic of Biblical Greek and they were extremely helpful for me.  The Hebrew layout looks similar to the Greek and both are by Zondervan.  If I were studying Hebrew I would get them. 

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Keith Pang | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 31 2016 7:34 PM

Are you reffering to the ones you can purchase through Logos? 

https://www.logos.com/product/41565/biblical-greek-reference

https://www.logos.com/product/41566/biblical-hebrew-reference

Or are you referring to- https://www.logos.com/product/6338/greek-and-hebrew-paradigm-charts

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Ronald Quick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 31 2016 7:54 PM

Keith,

I'm referring to the Biblical Greek Reference and Biblical Hebrew Reference.

https://www.logos.com/product/41565/biblical-greek-reference

https://www.logos.com/product/41566/biblical-hebrew-reference

I purchased them in hard copy through Amazon, so I'm not sure what the format would be like in Logos.

Also, I'm not sure if you saw this, but if you scroll down the page for the paradigm charts, you can download them in PDF.

https://www.logos.com/product/6338/greek-and-hebrew-paradigm-charts

The Greek paradigm chart were okay, but I thought the reference sheets were more helpful.  This may also be because I was going through Mounce's Basics of Biblical Grammar book and he wrote the Greek Reference sheets.

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Kevin Wang | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 31 2016 8:06 PM

If you are referring to the Charts of Biblical Hebrew book, I rarely use it. In fact, I've only used it once when I couldn't find my laminated sheet. The Laminated sheet is much more more convenient to have, and it has almost all the info needed to properly parse your verbs. It's almost always by my side Embarrassed

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Keith Pang | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 31 2016 8:43 PM

Kevin thanks for the info! 

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Keith Pang | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 31 2016 8:44 PM

Ronald Quick:

Keith,

I'm referring to the Biblical Greek Reference and Biblical Hebrew Reference.

https://www.logos.com/product/41565/biblical-greek-reference

https://www.logos.com/product/41566/biblical-hebrew-reference

I purchased them in hard copy through Amazon, so I'm not sure what the format would be like in Logos.

Also, I'm not sure if you saw this, but if you scroll down the page for the paradigm charts, you can download them in PDF.

https://www.logos.com/product/6338/greek-and-hebrew-paradigm-charts

The Greek paradigm chart were okay, but I thought the reference sheets were more helpful.  This may also be because I was going through Mounce's Basics of Biblical Grammar book and he wrote the Greek Reference sheets.

Yeah I think I'm going to get the reference sheets too. Is that something you used while going through the grammar or something you used more after going through the grammar or the two semesters. Wondering if I should get the Logos version or the laminated sheet. 

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Dec 31 2016 8:59 PM

Keith Pang:

Not too much extra cash just want to learn it the right way lol 

We learn best by immersion, repetitively hearing, seeing, and writing a language.

I'd avoid the charts, and focus on retaining the information taught in the course. There are plenty of ways you can accomplish that, such as quizzes, audible exercises, flash cards, practicing with friends, and so forth. Just keep drilling through various study approaches.

Do the charts save time? Yes, but at the expense of you looking it up instead of recalling it yourself. If we need to refer to a chart, that's a good clue that we need to practice more in that area, to be able to recall it on our own.

Although it may seem overwhelming to keep track of all the different facets of a grammar in addition to the vocabulary, you actually can get through it fine without needing the charts.

As you grow in proficiency, you'll discover that you didn't need to rely on charts, and you'll be better off in the long run.

As an aside, I'd recommend Memrise. It's free, and really useful for learning vocabulary through reading/writing/listening drills.

My top three Logos 9 Wishlist items: Carta, Dark mode, and Hebrew audio bible, please.

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Keith Pang | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 1 2017 3:19 AM

PetahChristian:

We learn best by immersion, repetitively hearing, seeing, and writing a language.

I'd avoid the charts, and focus on retaining the information taught in the course. There are plenty of ways you can accomplish that, such as quizzes, audible exercises, flash cards, practicing with friends, and so forth. Just keep drilling through various study approaches.

Do the charts save time? Yes, but at the expense of you looking it up instead of recalling it yourself. If we need to refer to a chart, that's a good clue that we need to practice more in that area, to be able to recall it on our own.

Although it may seem overwhelming to keep track of all the different facets of a grammar in addition to the vocabulary, you actually can get through it fine without needing the charts.

As you grow in proficiency, you'll discover that you didn't need to rely on charts, and you'll be better off in the long run.

As an aside, I'd recommend Memrise. It's free, and really useful for learning vocabulary through reading/writing/listening drills.

I definitely agree, good stuff. Thanks for sharing. Btw I couldn't find Hebrew or Greek on the app you suggested. 

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 1 2017 3:55 AM

Keith Pang:

Btw I couldn't find Hebrew or Greek on the app you suggested. 

Keith, in the IOS version of the app I click on More Languages and in this list under both Ancient Greek I find lots of options for various Biblical Greek Grammars including Mounce , under Hebrew not as many options but Van Pelt Grammar is there for Biblical Hebrew.

By changing the language from English (US) to English (UK) I found more course options for both Greek and Hebrew.

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 1 2017 9:55 AM

Keith Pang:

Btw I couldn't find Hebrew or Greek on the app you suggested. 

It might be easier to search for the courses on their web site while on your computer, as there are many, many different courses people have created for (Modern and Biblical) Hebrew alone. Once you've selected the course(s) related to the grammar you are using, then you can move back to the app.

Look for a course that includes audio, as not every course does.

My top three Logos 9 Wishlist items: Carta, Dark mode, and Hebrew audio bible, please.

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Keith Pang | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 1 2017 2:43 PM

I appreciate your help! This app seems awesome! I've found two corresponding to the basics of biblical Hebrew and Greek 😊

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