How to add Bible Sense Data Set to Chinese Bronze?

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LimJK | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Feb 12 2017 6:05 PM

Hi Logos,

I have just purchased a copy of Logos Chinese Bronze recently as a gift, installed, demonstrated  to a Chinese Preacher where English is not her main language (I thought this a typical Chinese Logos Customer). One of my purpose is hopefully to help collect some data points for you to validate your Chinese Logos marketing strategy Smile and relevance to the market you are hoping to address.

I have great difficulty in finding relevant scenarios to do a demonstration to one without good English background. I decided to do a simple word study exercise leveraging on the CUV RVI (which is my favorite).  I thought the ability to disambiguate the senses of the original language word will be a great selling point.

  • For NT we have LN numbers tagged, which is excellent ... at least she can find the group of verse with same LN Sense even if she has difficulty reading the English Lexicon.
  • For OT there is no LN number tagged, so I thought the tagging of Bible Sense would be excellent

Unfortunately, I did the demo on my copy of Logos that has Bible Sense tag, and have somewhat set the expectation Sad so I need to redeem myself for my accidental misrepresentation Smile

So I like to find what is the most economical way to get her the Bible Sense Data Set. I see this on Logos website, but, there is no way to purchase it at the advertised $19.90.:

The only way I can purchase this is to Purchase it as part of Standard English Bronze at $555.39 on top of the Chinese Bronze at $250 ... which is too demanding.

Is there someway to include Bible Sense Dataset as part of Chinese Bronze or have a more affordable way to include it. Thanks for your consideration. Below is one of the screen I demonstrated:

JK

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LimJK | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 12 2017 6:12 PM

A follow on Question is when will Bible Sense Data Set be available in Chinese, can you consider to prioritize this higher on your priority list. Thank you!

JK

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LimJK | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 14 2017 8:44 AM

Bump ...

Philip or whoever,

Can someone advise me how to purchase the Bible Sense Dataset, Unlike the English Bronze Base Package, the Chinese BRONZE does not include Bible Sense Dataset. Thanks.

JK

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Brandyn Whittington | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 14 2017 10:43 AM

Hey Jui! Thanks for reaching out to us. We'll look into what might be happening with this dataset and get an update back to you ASAP.

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LimJK | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 14 2017 4:56 PM

Brandyn Whittington:

Hey Jui! Thanks for reaching out to us. We'll look into what might be happening with this dataset and get an update back to you ASAP.

Brandyn,

Thanks for your replySmile

JK

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Thomas Reiter (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 14 2017 5:09 PM

Sorry for the slightly delayed response. Unfortunately there is currently no way to buy datasets separately, so purchasing just the Bible Sense Dataset is not possible. Additionally it is not an error that this is not included in the Chinese bronze base package, but rather intentional. Until Logos 7 this was a dataset that was only available in gold or higher base packages, so until we have a higher ranging Chinese base package this will not be available. This is primarily due to the sheer size and complexity of this dataset(which is about 300,000 words and additional data), so the translation of this is quite a big undertaking and will take some time.

We are however glad to hear that this is important for you and will do our best to make this available in Chinese, but it will be a while.

Sorry I can't give you a more positive response here!

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LimJK | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 15 2017 12:33 AM

Thomas Reiter:

Sorry for the slightly delayed response. Unfortunately there is currently no way to buy datasets separately, so purchasing just the Bible Sense Dataset is not possible. Additionally it is not an error that this is not included in the Chinese bronze base package, but rather intentional. Until Logos 7 this was a dataset that was only available in gold or higher base packages, so until we have a higher ranging Chinese base package this will not be available. This is primarily due to the sheer size and complexity of this dataset(which is about 300,000 words and additional data), so the translation of this is quite a big undertaking and will take some time.

We are however glad to hear that this is important for you and will do our best to make this available in Chinese, but it will be a while.

Sorry I can't give you a more positive response here!

Thomas,

Thanks for your reply.

I can understand it is massive work to translate the Bible Sense data set.  What I am suggesting is just to make the existing English Bible Sense data set available as an option.  Even without translation it fills a gap for especially for the OT where LN# is not available, one could find a group of verses with the same Bible sense (a useful ability) as I mentioned in the earlier post.

Please consider that ... thank you!

JK

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