Copying
I have been using the copy command to copy portions of the Newberry Interlinear text into a word document as a part of my study notes for sermon preparation. All of the sudden, when I attempt this, I am only pasting the Greek text and not the entire selected table cells. I do not see any changes in settings, anyone have any ideas what could have happened?
It seems pretty straight forward, select/highlight the desired cells, right click, select "copy", and then in the Word documents select paste. Something has changed...
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I don't see any tabs on the right side, there are options on the left, which I have tried... On the left I see the command to copy, visual copy (which I have never used successfully) some "open" options, and then choices to choose various guides.
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I meant to say I don't see tabs on the left side. On the right there are choices, which I have tried...
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John William Martin said:
I meant to say I don't see tabs on the left side. On the right there are choices, which I have tried...
I meant right side, sorry.
I don't have this resource and I think I misunderstood your issue. You are wanting to paste a table?
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If I understand the problem correctly, this was a regression that shipped in 7.5. We already have a case for this issue internally; I've added a link to this thread.
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Thanks, where does the link show up? I don't see anything... and I grant that I am digitally challenged. :-)
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Yes, the interlinear Greek/English resource is set up in a table, each cell containing a word, moving from top to bottom it has the Greek, below is the English, below is the indicators for word inflection, then the Vines number, and then the lexical form (I have the order mixed up a bit, but it doesn't really matter for purposes of this posting.
Anyway, I used to be able to copy the table from the resource into a Word document, now it only copies the Greek, and it is extracted from the table.
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John William Martin said:
I have been using the copy command to copy portions of the Newberry Interlinear text into a word document as a part of my study notes for sermon preparation. All of the sudden, when I attempt this, I am only pasting the Greek text and not the entire selected table cells. I do not see any changes in settings, anyone have any ideas what could have happened?
It seems pretty straight forward, select/highlight the desired cells, right click, select "copy", and then in the Word documents select paste. Something has changed...
I have experienced a similar issue with the Lexham Hebrew-English Interlinear; it only pastes the Hebrew text. My workaround was to do a selective screenshot and then placing the screenshot within the document.
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John William Martin said:
Thanks, where does the link show up? I don't see anything... and I grant that I am digitally challenged. :-)
The link isn't for you... it is for FL employees to know to notify you in this thread when a fix is released.
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I have the same problem with the LEB in interlinear mode and its interfering with a book I am writing. I'm glad to hear Logos is on it. Hope to hear that the problem has been fixed soon.
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John William Martin said:
I have been using the copy command to copy portions of the Newberry Interlinear text into a word document as a part of my study notes for sermon preparation. All of the sudden, when I attempt this, I am only pasting the Greek text and not the entire selected table cells. I do not see any changes in settings, anyone have any ideas what could have happened?
It seems pretty straight forward, select/highlight the desired cells, right click, select "copy", and then in the Word documents select paste. Something has changed...
This should be fixed in 7.5 SR-1.
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Thanks, when will that be released?
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I just tested it and it is still doing the same thing... I see that I have 7.5 installed. Is there something else that I still need to do?
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John William Martin said:
I just tested it and it is still doing the same thing... I see that I have 7.5 installed. Is there something else that I still need to do?
Hey John! I'm looking into recreating what you're reporting, and believe I'm seeing the same thing but want to be sure. This is regarding The Interlinear Literal Translation of the Greek New Testament correct?
If so, what you mean by table cells are you referring to the interlinear format of greek on top, english below, etc?0 -
Yes, that is correct. The arrangement is with Greek at the top, then below that is the English translation, and below that the lexical form, below that the Strong's number, and then finally at the bottom is the identification of word use as verb or noun, etc.
When a word or groups of words are highlighted to copy and then pasted into a word document it is done so as a word table. I am assuming that this is how they are arrayed in the Newberry Interlinear as well, I just can't see it in the Logos program.
Currently, when I try to copy, all that I get is the Greek and all the rest of the information does not transfer over.
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John William Martin said:
Yes, that is correct. The arrangement is with Greek at the top, then below that is the English translation, and below that the lexical form, below that the Strong's number, and then finally at the bottom is the identification of word use as verb or noun, etc.
When a word or groups of words are highlighted to copy and then pasted into a word document it is done so as a word table. I am assuming that this is how they are arrayed in the Newberry Interlinear as well, I just can't see it in the Logos program.
Currently, when I try to copy, all that I get is the Greek and all the rest of the information does not transfer over.
Alrighty, it looks like it's tied to how the text is being pasted into Word. When pasting into word, you have multiple options on how it's brought into the documents; Keep Source Formatting, Merge Formatting, and Keep Text Only. If Keep Text Only is selected as your default paste method, it will only paste the greek text and not the rest. You should be able to modify your default paste settings under Options>Advanced under the Microsoft Word menus. The one you want is Keep Source Formatting.
If you are by chance using Wordpad and not Word, then it will only paste the plain text and the strongs, english, etc. will not be posted.
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That didn't address it, although now I get what appears to be a highly compressed table smashed against the left side of the page, I supposed that might be considered progress. I have not made any changes to Word, with the exception of just now making "keep source format" the default. Have there been changes in updates in Logos which might cause this? It's not a huge problem, but it is interfering with my ability to complete some tasks during sermon preparation.
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John William Martin said:
That didn't address it, although now I get what appears to be a highly compressed table smashed against the left side of the page, I supposed that might be considered progress. I have not made any changes to Word, with the exception of just now making "keep source format" the default. Have there been changes in updates in Logos which might cause this? It's not a huge problem, but it is interfering with my ability to complete some tasks during sermon preparation.
It's sounding like this may be more tied to Office, as I'm unable to recreate the results you're getting at this point. We can take a closer look at it by reaching out to us over the phone at 1-800-875-6467 between 6AM to 6PM PST, Mon - Sat. Allowing one of our techs to see exactly what's happening should give us a more exact diagnosis.
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Ok, thanks. I have years experiences trouble shooting processes as an engineer. When something used to work and then all of a sudden it stops working, the first question to ask
is "what changed?"
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I don't know what changed, I certainly have not made any further adjustments. But before I called and sought our help over the phone I decided to test it one more time, just for chuckles. Now it is working just fine in the same way it always did up to a couple of weeks ago. Whoever changed whatever they changed, thank you! [:D]
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