Search for travel times between biblical locations?

robert@ccsanangelo.org
robert@ccsanangelo.org Member Posts: 146
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Is there a simple way to search travel times between biblical locales/cities? Like from Caesarea to Jerusalem? That kind of thing? 

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  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭

    Is there a simple way to search travel times between biblical locales/cities? Like from Caesarea to Jerusalem? That kind of thing? 

    Welcome to the forums Robert!

    Google offers a reliable means of obtaining this information. Caesarea to Jerusalem by automobile is said to take 1hr 23mins (120 km).

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  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,737 ✭✭✭

    If we're talking Paul's time, the problem is a little more difficult. Robert specified the direction, so the climb is more than 2,000ft and grouped all at once. If it were military on horseback to support Jerusalem, it's conceivable a single very long day. A normal unit would need two, and thus the Emmeus stopover. A family with baggage would require 3 days.

    That's why I use the iOS app Footpath, which also tracks topography.

    But the most important source is Eusebius:

    http://www.brill.com/eusebius-onomasticon 

    For any other map-crazy Logosians, Carta (A-company) offers the Omasticon, comparing Eusebius and Jerome, along with an index of distances. Also nice Eusebius-specific maps:

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  • Mr. Beloved: Of course I can google it for modern times. But this is a bible study forum, I need to get an idea (est.) of how long it would take Paul to get from Caesarea to Jerusalem on foot, etc. As Denise noted. 

    Denise: Very cool resources! I specifically was looking to see if this amazing (and expensive) bible study app we purchased will do this. Seem like I wasted my money at times investing so much when over 1/2 the time I end up googling. 

  • DMB
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    Yes, I feared Logos was your object.

    Logos is an odd animal. Libronix had a unit conversion tool. Logos4 removed it. Users squealed. It took years of squealing, like little piglets, before such a simple thing could be re-introduced. I bet it's barely used. A simple table would have worked.

    In your average Bible (almost every single one), there's maps in order of time. People want to see 'where'. But Libby was map-free. L4 introduced maps, but presented randomly. And they absolutely could not present them in 'human' sequence. Then, their strange molassas-atlas. Now another one. The years pass. I assume 'where' is not a priority to them. I'm constantly checking 'where'. Where is often why.

    But, the little piglets proceed along.

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  • Brad
    Brad Member Posts: 927 ✭✭

    Is there a simple way to search travel times between biblical locales/cities? Like from Caesarea to Jerusalem? That kind of thing? 

    Robert, I ran a simple inelegant search of "Everything" for Caesarea NEAR Jerusalem NEAR travel.  Within the multitude of results I quickly saw a couple of references to sixty-five miles and this result from the Baker NTC Acts volume:  "We receive the impression that the Jewish leaders accompanied Festus from Jerusalem to Caesarea, which took two days of traveling."

    That's far from the precise, consistent search tool you are looking for, but I was glad to see that the first quick rough search I ran returned some useful data.  Hopefully similar broad searches of your resources can help you for now, but I'm hoping that your post will encourage a Logos travel time feature in the future that we would all appreciate.

  • Jordan Litchfield
    Jordan Litchfield Member Posts: 539

    You should all check out Orbis - I think it is exactly what you are looking for. It comes from Stanford and uses the ancient Roman road system and sea routes to calculate travel times by ship, foot, donkey, cart, etc. It is really good. You can access it here: http://orbis.stanford.edu

    NB: for some reason, a few features do not seem to work for me in certain browsers, e.g. Chrome.

  • Sam Henderson
    Sam Henderson Member Posts: 165 ✭✭

    Why oh why don't we have the Onomasticon as a resource in Logos! This text has been discussed and suggested in the forums before.

  • Good stuff. That usually doesn't yield good results for me. 

  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043 ✭✭✭

    Why oh why don't we have the Onomasticon as a resource in Logos! This text has been discussed and suggested in the forums before.

    Now we do: https://www.logos.com/product/190966/the-onomasticon-by-eusebius-of-caesarea-palestine-in-the-fourth-century-ad

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  • Sean Boisen
    Sean Boisen Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,452

    I'm happy to learn about the Onomasticon: that's a new one for me. And i second the usefulness of Orbis. 

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