How can old tags be cleared from the search tab?

They should disappear within, say, 6 hours! Let us know.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/109417#Comment_109417

Dave,

Thanks for the quick reply. I deleted the tags several days ago...is something happening in the next 6 hours that hasn't happened in past few days?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/109418#Comment_109418

I deleted the tags several days ago...

Let's be clear we are talking about mytag: names that appear in the resource picker for Basic Search?

I just checked mine and the picker included the tags I have in Library when I click the My Tags column. I had deleted one tag a few days ago and it was not in the list. The 6 hours is sufficient time for changes to percolate thru the system, so it looks like there could be a problem:-

what is the tag name
is it listed when you click the My Tags column?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/109423#Comment_109423

Thanks for the help.

I deleted all my library tags. So, as you'd expect, when I sort by tags, none are listed. However, on my search tab I still see the following tags:

mytag:Calvin's Commentaries
mytag:Harmonies of the Gospels
mytag:Works by A.W. Pink
mytag:Works by Alexander MacLaren
mytag:Works by C.H. Spurgeon
mytag:Works by Jonathan Edwards

I tried to replicate the error, but couldn't. I tagged my 15 Berkhof resources, sorted by tags, no problem. I selected all 15 resources, cleared my tags, and it was automatically cleared from my search tab. For some reason these 6 mytags remain.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/109432#Comment_109432

mytag:Calvin's Commentaries

mytag:Harmonies of the Gospels

mytag:Works by A.W. Pink

mytag:Works by Alexander MacLaren

mytag:Works by C.H. Spurgeon

mytag:Works by Jonathan Edwards

Add one of the above tags to one resource, repeat for the other tags on different resources and wait a few minutes. Check what appears in the search picker. Then delete the tags.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/109438#Comment_109438

Tried it several times, even variations, no change.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/109445#Comment_109445

Tried it several times, even variations, no change.

I've created this Bug report - http://wiki.logos.com/Bug$3a_Some_Tags_are_not_removed_from_lists

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/109445#Comment_109445

Tried it several times, even variations, no change.

How do you remove the tags?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/110037#Comment_110037

I removed them 2 ways. I selected more than one title in my library and then used the "clear tags" button. I also tried selecting a single title, highlighting the tag itself, and then deleteing it by leaving the field blank.

Is that what you were asking?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/110037#Comment_110037

Something I noticed about all these mytags entries in your Search resources list is that they all have spaces in them but no quotes around the phrase. I thought maybe that was the clue, so I tagged one of my resources with a multi-word tag. I verified that it showed up in my Search resources dropdown. Then I removed the tag. It was gone from the Search list. So that blows my theory!

It does tell me that there must be something weird about those few tags you can't get rid of from your Search dropdown though. Do you remember if they were they created in a beta version, or all around the same time? Maybe there was a bug in the version you created those tags in which is gone now.

Maybe there is some databse file you can delete that will remove these. It might require a Logos employee to respond to that possibility.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/110063#Comment_110063

Nope, I wasn't using a beta version; I've never installed one.

I could be wrong, but I suspect it happened while I was tinkering. I remember selecting all my resources and clearing the tags I was experimenting with. Logos crashed. I restarted and didn't notice any problems. Much later (probably a couple days) I noticed the residual tags in my search picker.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/110063#Comment_110063

There is no seperate database for these user-tags Rosie [:(] its held in the main catalog.db in 2 seperate tables.

I have not found the table which holds the search history(yet)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/110072#Comment_110072

There is no seperate database for these user-tags Rosie its held in the main catalog.db in 2 seperate tables.

I have not found the table which holds the search history(yet)

Maybe his catalog.db file is corrupted then. Dominic, if you are able to read this database file and see what's inside it, would you be able to debug DHG's catalog.db and see if it still refers to those deleted tags? Is the catalog.db file something that could get rebuilt from scratch by Logos the way the index can be? I wouldn't recommend deleting it to find out! Otherwise, maybe they need to implement some integrity checks on it in Logos and be able to fix it on the fly if it gets corrupted.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/110074#Comment_110074

[EDIT]

Ok, if I add new tag to 1 book and then search it it appears, but when I delete it (by clicking pencil and removing tag) it is deleted from the table.

searching for that tag again, from history brings up no results.. same for 2 books

If searching for that tag brings up results then AFAICT there is still a book(s) tagged.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/110075#Comment_110075

I could however will add a tag to a book mine and delete it

I've tried doing that already and couldn't reproduce his bug. I think it had something to do with the fact that Logos crashed while he was tinkering with these tags.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/110076#Comment_110076

[EDIT] without someone at Logos looking at the file I would say some corruption has occurred..

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/110078#Comment_110078

[EDIT] without someone at Logos looking at the file I would say some corruption has occurred..

That file is likely to be enormous. Mine is 37 MB. Not something you can easily email to Logos or post here to get feedback on whether it is corrupt. DHS, since nobody from Logos has noticed this thread and it's not likely to get noticed because it isn't a bug report in the PC Beta forum, you might need to call or email Customer Support and tell them you think you have a corruption in your catalog.db file (include a link to this thread for the background on why you think that), and ask if you can send it to them on a CD for diagnosis. Or maybe they have a private ftp site that you could upload it to for that purpose. I think we've done all we can do to help you.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/110079#Comment_110079

Thank you so much for trying! I emailed CS, explained the issue, and included a link to this thread. God bless!

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/110082#Comment_110082

BTW, the catalog.db is 40.2MB.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/110085#Comment_110085

BTW, the catalog.db is 40.2MB.

You must have more books than I do. Or else maybe a lot of garbage clutter in there which was left around from various crashes.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/110061#Comment_110061

I removed them 2 ways. I selected more than one title in my library and then used the "clear tags" button. I also tried selecting a single title, highlighting the tag itself, and then deleteing it by leaving the field blank.

Is that what you were asking?

Yes - I was wondering if one method was buggy.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/110141#Comment_110141

I think the problem is fixed.

I know it was against better judgement, but I couldn't stop tinkering. I deleted my catalog.db and started L4. It took about 45 minutes to prepare my library. During that time, I watched as the new database file was rebuilt. When it finished (slightly smaller than before), all my resources were present and searchable, and the old tags were gone. My library tab and individual books load significantly faster now too.

I wouldn't recommend this as a fix until we hear from someone at Logos tech support, but it seemed to work...then again maybe I'll encounter some new problem because of it. We'll see.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/110174#Comment_110174

I wouldn't recommend this as a fix until we hear from someone at Logos tech support,

Definitely!

but it seemed to work...then again maybe I'll encounter some new problem because of it. We'll see.

Let us know.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/110174#Comment_110174

I know it was against better judgement, but I couldn't stop tinkering. I deleted my catalog.db and started L4. It took about 45 minutes to prepare my library. During that time, I watched as the new database file was rebuilt. When it finished (slightly smaller than before), all my resources were present and searchable, and the old tags were gone. My library tab and individual books load significantly faster now too.

I wouldn't recommend this as a fix until we hear from someone at Logos tech support, but it seemed to work...then again maybe I'll encounter some new problem because of it. We'll see.

I hope you backed up the catalog.db file before deleting it. We have no idea what else they store in there which can't be regenerated from scratch. It might have kept all your tags for example. Are you noticing any of your tags missing from resources in your Library? We'll wait to see what else might not be there anymore.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/110318#Comment_110318

heres the tables within the catalog database,,

I hope he backed it up too, looks like 2 main thing which likely will be missing from a rebuild:

Alternate Resource Names
User Tags

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/110327#Comment_110327

heres the tables within the catalog database,,

I hope he backed it up too, looks like 2 main thing which likely will be missing from a rebuild:

Alternate Resource Names
User Tags

Also, if he renamed any of the titles (AlternativeTitles).

How did you get that view of the tables in the db, by the way?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/110351#Comment_110351

not sure I can post that info under forum rules, or if I could whether Logos would want me to:

email me at: dominicm AT fanintoflames DOT co DOT UK and I will send you the info

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/110360#Comment_110360

Yes, I backed the file up.

However, I went through my library and can find no changes. My primary title changes (I only had a few) and my alternate title changes (again, I only made a few) are still there. I didn't have any user tags so I don't know about those.

I'll post an update if I find anything awry.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/110491#Comment_110491

I didn't have any user tags so I don't know about those.

I thought this whole threads was about tags you had created and deleted. Didn't you leave any behind? Or did you decide not to use the tagging feature at all? It can be very useful, for building collections.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/110502#Comment_110502

I agree; tags are great. I'll go back to using them as soon as I get my system back to normal...

Melissa Snyder

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/110082#Comment_110082

Thank you so much for trying! I emailed CS, explained the issue, and included a link to this thread. God bless!

Development thinks it's possible that you didn't delete all of the books with that tag, and if that isn't the issue, it's not clear how it got into this state. It's possible that other databases have been deleted in the past, which could have created the problem. They do not recommend deleting database files unless you've been advised by development or technical support staff to do so.