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Richard Wardman | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Jun 5 2017 5:10 AM

I'm hoping to pick up The Five Solas Series. Vyrso has four of the volumes, but is strangely missing "Faith Alone"! 

Any ideas why?

https://vyrso.com/products/search?q=five+solas 

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 5 2017 9:46 AM

It is very strange, since it was released in 2015.... I was fairly sure I had seen that book in the Logos bookstore since it is a title i search for often (devotional of martin lathers writings not the book you are seeking). That said it is no longer in the Logos book store if it ever was there...

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 5 2017 9:54 AM

I would reach out to Kyle A and check with him.  Once I noticed there was Wiersbe Bible Guide missing and when I inquired someone at FL noticed the conversion process on it got messed up and it got stuck in the process.  Maybe that happened with this one?

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Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 5 2017 11:22 AM

Hi All,

We're working on getting these in the Logos platform. Keep your eye on pre-pub!

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 5 2017 11:48 AM

Neat. Buy in vyrso while cheap

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Ronald Quick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 5 2017 11:54 AM

The link no longer work.  I think Faithlife removed the resources for purchase.  I did work earlier today.

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 5 2017 12:01 PM

I was just about to post that!  Sneaky, sneaky logos. Oh well.  I'll guess around $60 in Logos for these

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Richard Wardman | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 6 2017 6:27 AM

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):

Hi All,

We're working on getting these in the Logos platform. Keep your eye on pre-pub!

Thanks Ben. When can we expect this pre-pub to be available. 

I feel slightly irked that the books were pulled from Vyrso after I mentioned them, but I'm sure I can forgive you! 

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Ronald Quick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 6 2017 7:18 AM

I feel the same way.   I understand Logos not carrying the same resource in two different formats (Logos and Vyrso), yet right now they aren't available in either.  

Because Logos will pull resources without warning, I will sometimes buy now instead of waiting until I actually need them.  

These aren't resources I was going to purchase anyway (I'd like them, but they just don't fit my budget right now), but they should leave them on Vyrso until they are ready for Logos release.

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alabama24 | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 6 2017 7:55 AM

Ronald Quick:
they should leave them on Vyrso until they are ready for Logos release.

I agree... sort of. The two stores operate under a different set of licensing agreements. As long is it is ok with publishers, my suggestion has been that FL should allow users to purchase the Logos edition, and receive a Vyrso edition while waiting. 

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Richard Wardman:
Thanks Ben. When can we expect this pre-pub to be available. 

I don't have an exact date yet. It should be up soon.

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Disciple of Christ (doc) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 6 2017 6:44 PM

I am happy to pay for these resources to be formatted the way they should have been formatted in the first place. I don't think it is sneaky, it is a sens business decision. They need to fund the work of tagging the books properly. If everyone sits back and buys them on the cheap now and expects to recieve a free upgrade to fully formatted books then the prepub project will fail. I hold FL to a high level of honesty and integrity in their actions and believe in this situation they have done nothing wrong by taking away an opportunity for customers to take advantage of what is a generous policy. I'm looking toward to seeing this set on prepub and being able to contribute to it's success.

Mattillo:

I was just about to post that!  Sneaky, sneaky logos. Oh well.  I'll guess around $60 in Logos for these

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 6 2017 6:50 PM

Disciple of Christ (doc):
I am happy to pay for these resources to be formatted the way they should have been formatted in the first place. I don't think it is sneaky, it is a sens business decision.

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Richard Wardman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 8 2017 3:29 AM

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):

Richard Wardman:
Thanks Ben. When can we expect this pre-pub to be available. 

I don't have an exact date yet. It should be up soon.

Thanks Ben. Look forward to it. 

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 8 2017 5:08 AM

Ben sir 

The five solas were removed from vyrso to hopefully put in logos but the below book is still in vyrso and on logos prepub. Why the difference in the five solas case?

Also I own the vyrso version but logos will allow me to buy the logos version as well...

If this product is successful will I have to buy again?

https://vyrso.com/product/44227/god-speaks 

https://www.logos.com/product/45349/god-speaks-finding-hope-in-the-midst-of-hopelessness 

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 8 2017 5:44 AM

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife):

Richard Wardman:
Thanks Ben. When can we expect this pre-pub to be available. 

I don't have an exact date yet. It should be up soon.

Well... Since I plan on a fall preaching series involving these topics, I hope it's soon.  That's a lot of pages to digest.

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Richard Wardman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 8 2017 5:46 AM

TCBlack:
Well... Since I plan on a fall preaching series involving these topics, I hope it's soon.

Same here! That's exactly why I was enquiring about these titles. 

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alabama24 | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 8 2017 9:50 AM

Mattillo:
Why the difference

It is an oversight, and as soon as a FL employee recognizes it (perhaps from your post), it will be removed.

Mattillo:
If this product is successful will I have to buy again?

No, and you will/should receive the Logos edition gratis (if you own the Vyrso one). 

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 8 2017 11:39 AM

alabama24:

Mattillo:
Why the difference

It is an oversight, and as soon as a FL employee recognizes it (perhaps from your post), it will be removed.

Mattillo:
If this product is successful will I have to buy again?

No, and you will/should receive the Logos edition gratis (if you own the Vyrso one). 

That said if the Five Solas are released as a set it is possible you cannot get the final volume without repurchasing the other four you own due to Zondervan's policy of no dynamic pricing. but hopefully it will be released as 5 individual books.

-dan

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alabama24 | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jun 8 2017 12:08 PM

Dan Francis:
That said if the Five Solas are released as a set it is possible you cannot get the final volume without repurchasing the other four you own due to Zondervan's policy of no dynamic pricing.

Correct... Or at least until the series is broken up. 

Dan Francis:
hopefully it will be released as 5 individual books.
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