New Windows option in 7.9 Beta 1 to make Logos faster

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PL | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 11 2017 8:44 PM

- Searches run faster

- Bible panels (usually with two translations paired up in multiview) initiate faster, and go to new BCV locations faster

- Bible Browser left-side list of filter facets now populates in < 5 seconds (as opposed to spinning for a minute)

- Library window more responsive

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 11 2017 9:03 PM

Mark Barnes:

So ngen improved performance by 3%, which is well within the margin of error for a test like this.

This is on an Intel i7-3770k with 32Gb RAM, and a Samsung 850 Evo SSD.

From my post on page 1 of this thread, the improvement is c. 25% on a laptop with a 1 GB hard drive, 8 GB RAM & Intel i7-5500U (about 1 GHz slower than Mark's).

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 11 2017 9:08 PM

Randy W. Sims:

What path? It should work if you point to ./Logos/System/Logos.exe

Thanks Randy, I should have taken notice of your previous post.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 11 2017 9:36 PM

Dave Hooton:

EDIT: The uninstall with full path failed --> "the specified assembly is not installed". Possibly because "Note: Starting with the .NET Framework 4, the action uninstall * is no longer supported."?

And installing the other installation (v7.8 SR-1) also failed ---> "Failed to load the runtime" Exception 0x80131700.

Both these worked OK when I used the correct path!  The Beta assembly folders were combined with those of the SR-1 assembly e.g. one Logos folder with two sub-folders, and uninstalling SR-1 left the Beta assembly (thankfully!).

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 12 2017 4:07 AM

PL:

- Searches run faster

- Bible panels (usually with two translations paired up in multiview) initiate faster, and go to new BCV locations faster

- Bible Browser left-side list of filter facets now populates in < 5 seconds (as opposed to spinning for a minute)

- Library window more responsive

I tried all this, and still see no real difference. A four-panel multiview takes around 5s, and Bible Browser about 3s, with or without ngen.

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 13 2017 8:02 PM

Dave Hooton:

Mark Barnes:

So ngen improved performance by 3%, which is well within the margin of error for a test like this.

This is on an Intel i7-3770k with 32Gb RAM, and a Samsung 850 Evo SSD.

From my post on page 1 of this thread, the improvement is c. 25% on a laptop with a 1 GB hard drive, 8 GB RAM & Intel i7-5500U (about 1 GHz slower than Mark's).

Certainly you mean TB not GB right? (emphasis in quote is mine)

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 14 2017 2:11 AM

abondservant:
Certainly you mean TB not GB right?

Yes. Well caught.

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 15 2017 5:47 AM

Philana R. Crouch:

In our efforts to improve the performance speed of the application we have added a new option that needs to be manually applied. This process will need to be repeated each time a new version of the application is installed.

To run the new performance command line:

1. Run a Command Prompt for `[logosinstallpath]\Logos.exe /ngen`

2. Click on Yes for changes to be made on the pop-up

Another window will pop-up and run some processes. It will look something like this:

To undo this process:

1. Run a Command Prompt for `[logosinstallpath]\Logos.exe /unngen`

2. Click on Yes for changes to be made on the pop-up

I'm seeing nothing like the results shown above. First, I don't get a pop up of any kind and I see nothing in Command Prompt. After hitting enter it just shows C:\Users\kevin>

Am I doing it wrong?

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JRS | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 15 2017 8:32 AM

Here is the way I run ngen:

1) When I run CMD I right click on the shortcut and select "Run as administrator"  

2) My User Account Control  settings are completely off which I believe eliminates the "Do you want to allow this app to make changes to your device?" prompt.  Depending on how your UAC settings are configured, you may or may not get the prompt.

3)The following command is pasted into the command prompt and then executed:

C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\ngen.exe install C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Logos\System\Logos.exe

- Assumes you are using a 64 bit version of Windows

- Assumes you will insert the proper user name from your computer

- Can be run from any folder location in the Command prompt

As I mentioned on the first page of this thread, I registered a 42% improvement in startup speed (i7 5960X oc'd to 4.2 GHz, 32 GB DDR4 ram, Samsung 960 Pro ssd (1TB), EVGA Nvidia 970).  Everything else certainly feels snappier but I cannot quantify it. 

Hope this helps.

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Paul Strickert | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 15 2017 2:16 PM

I've noticed a speedier response time in some areas.  One area that still astounds me for its sluggishness is opening a Bible.  I've got a shortcut to my preferred Bible on the top of the screen.  When I click it, it takes a good 3 seconds for the Bible to open.  Why is it not instantaneous?

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 15 2017 2:34 PM

Kevin A. Purcell:
After hitting enter it just shows C:\Users\kevin>

After the >  type C:\Users\kevin\AppData\Local\Logos\Logos.exe /ngen

 1. this is the default path. It could be totally different for a custom installation  e.g. E:\Logos\Logos.exe /ngen

 2. Your Logos folder name could be Logos4 or Logos5 (check C:\Users\kevin\AppData\Local for the name)

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 15 2017 3:40 PM

Paul Strickert:

I've noticed a speedier response time in some areas.  One area that still astounds me for its sluggishness is opening a Bible.  I've got a shortcut to my preferred Bible on the top of the screen.  When I click it, it takes a good 3 seconds for the Bible to open.  Why is it not instantaneous?

Probably because of visual filters.

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Paul Strickert | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 15 2017 3:42 PM

Even if they're all unchecked, Mark?

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Paul Strickert:

Even if they're all unchecked, Mark?

Yes. https://community.logos.com/forums/p/133323/866528.aspx#866528 

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 16 2017 5:05 AM

Dave Hooton:

Kevin A. Purcell:
After hitting enter it just shows C:\Users\kevin>

After the >  type C:\Users\kevin\AppData\Local\Logos\Logos.exe /ngen

 1. this is the default path. It could be totally different for a custom installation  e.g. E:\Logos\Logos.exe /ngen

 2. Your Logos folder name could be Logos4 or Logos5 (check C:\Users\kevin\AppData\Local for the name)

Thanks Dave. I did check to ensure that Logos.exe is in the default location. I know I didn't install it in a special place upon installation, but double checked and it was there but also in the subfolder labelled System. So I ran it on both locations.

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Donnie Hale | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 16 2017 6:44 AM

JRS:
2) My User Account Control  settings are completely off which I believe eliminates the "Do you want to allow this app to make changes to your device?" prompt.

FYI: You may want to read point #13 on this page: https://decentsecurity.com/#/holiday-tasks/

Donnie

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Paul Strickert | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 16 2017 6:47 AM

Thank you, Bradley and Mark.

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JRS | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 16 2017 8:36 AM

Donnie Hale:

FYI: You may want to read point #13 on this page: https://decentsecurity.com/#/holiday-tasks/

Donnie

Thanks, Donnie, but I prefer to live 'dangerously' rather than have to listen to 

all day long.  Wink

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Donnie Hale | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 16 2017 10:15 AM

JRS:
Thanks, Donnie, but I prefer to live 'dangerously'

As long as you realize that settings like that are what allow malicious actors to find hosts from which to launch their distributed denial-of-service attacks. You can disable a sound setting. FWIW, I only get the UAC elevation prompt about 2-3 times per month. And I'm a software developer / development manager.

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Frank Sauer | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 16 2017 6:32 PM

Ran the utility and with an resource and tool intensive layout as default at open - less than 8 seconds to full open. Better with a less intensive layout.

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