Flat Earth Anyone: ONE HUNDRED PROOFS

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DominicM | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Aug 27 2017 1:34 PM

This is posted for historic and reference only, I post because I found it after bumping into a !flat-eather" last week, didn't realise they still existed there are a few times he references the bible, but most of his reasoning science has since disproved, so that said it may only provide some of you with comedic value.

3823.ONE HUNDRED PROOFS THAT THE EARTH IS NOT A GLOBE.docx

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Calvin Habig | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 27 2017 9:50 PM

Thanks.  I look forward to perusing it for the sheer historical novelty of it.

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Chuck Easley | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 31 2021 9:45 AM

Thank God for "science." If it wasn't for "science," we would still believe Joshua 10 was actually true. Yes, science, our new god.

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David Wanat | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 31 2021 10:52 AM

They'll come around eventually Wink

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Robert M. Warren | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 31 2021 11:34 AM

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 31 2021 1:26 PM

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 31 2021 1:28 PM

Great catch!!!

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Chuck Easley | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 31 2021 2:48 PM

You have a long way to go. Keep searching. You may actually find the truth. However, you will need to improve your research techniques.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 31 2021 10:32 PM

Welcome to the forums Chuck. As many people jump into the forums without having found the guidelines, let me point you towards them Forum Guidelines - Faithlife Forums (logos.com). And if you have any questions on using Logos, you now know where to find us.

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Chuck Easley | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 1 2021 1:56 AM

Thanks for your help, but I am well acquainted with the guidelines. So what is your opinion on Joshua 10? Just an eclipse? God stopped the Earth from spinning for the afternoon, despite what the text says? The Earth is a stationary, non-rotating plane, and God actually stopped the Sun and Moon like the text says? Thanks in advance for your help in this matter.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 1 2021 2:16 AM

Chuck Easley:
I am well acquainted with the guidelines. So what is your opinion on (....)

I personally read this as a contradiction. Discussion of opinions is better suited to a discussion platform (like e.g. https://www.christiandiscourse.net/ ). 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 1 2021 2:42 AM

Chuck Easley:
Thanks for your help, but I am well acquainted with the guidelines.

Sorry, but as your post count reflected the two posts in this thread, I assumed you were new and like most new members had likely not seen the guidelines.

Chuck Easley:
So what is your opinion on Joshua 10? Just an eclipse?

My opinion is not appropriately shared in this forums as it is theological in nature. But from your three posts I can tell you that any serious attempt to answer you in a discussion where we both genuinely wanted to understand each other's position would have to start in linguistics and how the meaning of a text is determined.

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Chuck Easley | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 1 2021 2:55 AM

I disagree. The original post has been up for 4 years. So what’s your opinion on Joshua 10? Another issue would be God’s creation of the Earth before He created the Sun. See the creation account in Genesis. It amazes me that people who lived long ago believed God’s Word, yet we who believe we are so intelligent chose to believe NASA instead of God. We have been deceived, and we enjoy it.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 1 2021 3:02 AM

Chuck Easley:
I disagree. The original post has been up for 4 years. So what’s your opinion on Joshua 10?

Your "I disagree" has absolutely no relevance to my refusal to be drawn into a theological argument. I have the advantage of knowing my answer so I trust my opinion that it is theological. For me, this is "end of discussion".

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 1 2021 3:43 AM

Chuck Easley:

Thanks for your help, but I am well acquainted with the guidelines. So what is your opinion on Joshua 10? Just an eclipse? God stopped the Earth from spinning for the afternoon, despite what the text says? The Earth is a stationary, non-rotating plane, and God actually stopped the Sun and Moon like the text says? Thanks in advance for your help in this matter.

Just one quick point/question. People who support flat earth typically say they are just "following Scripture" by "accepting what the Bible says". The Bible mentions "pillars" that hold up the "sky dome", so those two things, pillars and a dome, are REAL things. But the Bible also says that the sun goes into a tent at night. Where's this tent? Have you seen it? Shouldn't it be very obvious? But, of course, the flat disk concept of earth doesn't include the sun "going to be at night in a tent", does it?, because proponents admit there is always somewhere on the flat plane(t) that is receiving light from the sun. So what's the deal with the tent? The Bible SAYS THERE IS A TENT. How come there isn't a tent?

If you choose to reply by saying, "that's just figurative language", then you have just given the reply that resolves all of the fundamental flat earth claims. The pillars are figurative. The dome is figurative. The so-called "firmament" is a really, really, really bad translation of the Hebrew word raaqiya`, which is best translated by the NASB's "expanse". Also, the meteors that come barreling into our atmosphere at 10-20,000 mph and explode causing massive physical damage to buildings, etc.--how do those make it through the solid dome??? If you say they don't, then where do they come from and what are they? If satellites aren't real, as most flat earthers claim, how do weather satellites show us geosynchronous pictures of hurricanes moving across the ocean's waters and provide highly accurate predictions of when and where such storms will make landfall?

There is a guy who wrote a book examining how measurements of the Copernican worldview correlate with certain Biblical phenomena at an extraordinarily high level approaching 1.0. Those kinds of correlative numbers can be viewed as effectively miraculous, but flat earth "theoreology" takes all that nifty mathematical richness and flushes it. Why do that in order to gain nothing? The Bible describes things in the heavens "as they appear" to readers of the Book who look up. No scientist refuses to acknowledge that the sun, moon, and stars "look like" they are moving across the sky. But that apparent movement is something that can be easily and rationally accounted for by the standard model of scientific description. 

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 1 2021 3:46 AM

Chuck Easley:
I disagree. The original post has been up for 4 years.

Chuck, this is the correct place to post Personal Books for Logos Bible Software, discuss how to use Personal Books, discuss how to use the software, etc...  It is not the appropriate place to ask for or give opinions concerning the theological issues raised in those resources.

Appropriate Questions:

How do I get this into Logos?

How do I make my own personal book?

How do I format headings so that they are part of the table of contents?

Do you think this book may ever make it into Logos as an official release?

Are there other resources in Logos concerning flat earth?

Inappropriate questions:

What is your opinion concerning flat earth?

Do you think the earth is flat?

How can you not see that the earth is flat/round because...?

This is not a forum for theological discussion no matter how much you wish it to be so.  There are many forums for such flat earth and other theological discussion.  No responsible forum member will engage in your discussion concerning Joshua 10; however, other members and I can point you to a number of resources dealing with Joshua 10, but somehow I don't feel like that's what you want.

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 1 2021 3:51 AM

Joseph Turner:
No responsible forum member will engage in your discussion concerning Joshua 10

And of course while I was typing someone couldn't resist engaging.

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 1 2021 4:01 AM

Joseph Turner:

Joseph Turner:
No responsible forum member will engage in your discussion concerning Joshua 10

And of course while I was typing someone couldn't resist engaging.

Some say I'm irresponsible, I suppose. Joseph is correct, though. The Logos forum is supposed to be for how to use the software, not discussing the meaning of what's in the software. It's funny, though. Flat earthers are a particular breed of apologists, doing what they do because they are "defending the faith", at least in their own sight. Once again, I say, "YHWH and His word needs no defending." Besides, neither ':Elohhiym nor the Bible are protected by postulating logical absurdities. Also, science doesn't need to be dismissed in order to accept miracles.

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Chuck Easley | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 1 2021 4:38 AM

Yes of course, science. Speaking of science, I better put my mask on and go get that experimental vaccine for that virus that’s never actually been found in a human. But hey, the scientists did find it in a Petri dish, and that’s good enough for me. Besides, I saw a well known Baptist preacher say the vaccine is a gift from God. Wish me luck. Talk to y’all later this afternoon

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 1 2021 4:38 AM

Joseph Turner:
No responsible forum member will engage in your discussion concerning Joshua 10; however, other members and I can point you to a number of resources dealing with Joshua 10, but somehow I don't feel like that's what you want.

Just in case someone is looking for a resource with a literal interpretation that's also compatible with science:

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