How to search for all occurences of actual prayers for a text in library?

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Chris Garrett | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Sep 5 2017 4:39 AM

Hi Friends,

One of the things that I use Logos for is to prepare our worship services, including readings, creeds, hymns, prayers, etc.  I am wondering what tools you use to search and organize sample prayers, in particular.  For example, here is a sample inquiry I might have:

- type of prayer: Confession

- verse range:  James 1:1-11

- Did anyone write a prayer that might spur us on here?  (John Owen, Tozer, Calvin, whomever). 

Some devotional books are chock full of prayers, but searching them by text is sometimes more difficult.  I was trying <James 1:1-11> NEAR prayer... but the results were scattered and not often actual prayers, but more commentary on a prayer or the word prayer is mentioned, but it's not the thing itself, only a reference to prayer.

Related to this,  does anyone have a Collection that pulls together the best of your worship leading books? What search parameters did you use to create your collection?  Here is my collection, but it has 254 resources, and they are not overly specific, so the results are too varied. How would you improve on this?

title:prayer OR author:Tozer OR topic:worship OR Owen OR Creed OR hymn OR tag:worship

My end goal is to get a "worship leading" layout set up, so that my search parameters and key books are open when I open that layout.

Thanks for any help!

Chris

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 5 2017 3:55 PM

Chris Garrett:
title:prayer OR author:Tozer OR topic:worship OR Owen OR Creed OR hymn OR tag:worship

 Owen OR Creed OR hymn is too general. author:Owen OR title:(creed, hymn) is better.

topic:worship  doesn't contribute anything ('topic' isn't valid metadata). Perhaps you meant subject:worship

Consider:

author:(Tozer, Owen) OR title:(prayer, creed, hymn, worship) OR subject:(prayer, creed, hymn, worship) OR tag:worship

EDIT:  I suggest omitting author as the categories will find appropriate books. Manually tag any books that are missed by:

    title:(prayer, creed, hymn, worship) OR subject:(prayer, creed, hymn, worship) OR tag:worship

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 5 2017 11:37 PM

Chris Garrett:

For example, here is a sample inquiry I might have:

- type of prayer: Confession

- verse range:  James 1:1-11

- Did anyone write a prayer that might spur us on here?  (John Owen, Tozer, Calvin, whomever)

Since many actual prayers end with amen, one search idea is:

((amen OR beseech) WITHIN {Milestone <Jm1.1-11>} OR (amen WITHIN 33 WORDS <Jm1.1-11>)

Collection rule for "English Library without Bibles" is Lang:English -Type:Bible

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Chris Garrett | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 11 2017 1:12 PM

Excellent, thanks to you both. I have used these and found good results. Thanks!

Chris

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