Punctuation handled poorly in Propositional Outline visual filter

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Andrew116 | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Oct 5 2017 5:53 PM

Hi there! 

I love propositional outlines, but find them quite frustrating to use because of the way it handles 'supplied' punctuation. This is both in UBS5 and NA28.

See below:

This means less text fits on the screen, and divides up lines in a strange way. Surely there is a better way to handle this?

Also: can we have a way to turn off the blue text on the left? This makes the text column on the right really narrow. 

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Hi Andrew:

Thanks for commenting. I've made a case for this and will try to track down the problem to see what might be possible.

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Andrew116 | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 9 2017 2:19 PM

Thanks for the quick response! Would be great to have it sorted out :)

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Levi Durfey | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 9 2017 2:36 PM

Andrew116:
This is both in UBS5 and NA28.

I also get it in the Scrivener 1881 NT in Greek. UBS 4 doesn't seem to have any problem.

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Adam Olean | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 9 2017 2:38 PM

Jeremy Thompson (Faithlife):

Hi Andrew:

Thanks for commenting. I've made a case for this and will try to track down the problem to see what might be possible.

Hi, Jeremy. The Propositional Outlines are excellent! In fact, LDHB and LDGNT would benefit tremendously if they were revised against Propositional Outlines wherever they're more-or-less compatible since the latter builds on, modifies, and extends their work (often catching omissions, such as, 'Attention', 'Characterization', 'List-Item', etc.). That said, I agree with Andrew that dedicating a line for 'Supplied' information like punctuation can get in the way.

I likewise find, in my experience, anyway, that placing 'Topics' (especially simple ones) on separate lines can impede fluent scanning and reading of lines of text (or of propositions, for that matter!). Not only does it take up extra screen real-estate, but it creates a degree of visual separation that would perhaps be better reserved for higher-levels of analysis. It'd be great if some of these features could be toggled on or off, and, in some cases, pre-made or custom visual-filters could be used in their place. For example, LDHB and LDGNT use brackets for similar features. I also created a visual filter that underlines 'Reference Frames', 'Topics', (pre-clausal) 'Left-Dislocations', and the like.

I'm not sure if Andrew would agree with all of this, but it seems fairly similar to the handling 'Supplied' information. [Edit: I realize, however, it's not resource specific, so perhaps it deserves its own thread. I also realize that the 'Topics' in Andrew's screenshot, for instance, are dependent clauses in their own right, making them more complex. I don't recall everything with the 'Topic'-label, however, forming its own clause.]

Keep up the excellent work!

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 18 2017 10:25 AM

Adam Olean:
That said, I agree with Andrew that dedicating a line for 'Supplied' information like punctuation can get in the way.

+1 Concur with "Supplied" supplying too many lines along with being a bit inconsistent: e.g. Philippians 4:4

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Philana R. Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 9 2018 11:46 AM

Andrew116:

Hi there! 

I love propositional outlines, but find them quite frustrating to use because of the way it handles 'supplied' punctuation. This is both in UBS5 and NA28.

See below:

This means less text fits on the screen, and divides up lines in a strange way. Surely there is a better way to handle this?

Also: can we have a way to turn off the blue text on the left? This makes the text column on the right really narrow. 

This has been fixed in 7.12.

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