Dataset Updates: October 16, 2017
The following new datasets are scheduled to be released for Logos Now subscibers in conjunction with the release of Logos 7.10 on October 16, 2017:
- HCSB Old Testament Reverse Interlinear: If you have a license to the HCSB, then this license will enable the HCSB OT Reverse Interlinear.
- RSV2CE Reverse Interlinear: The RSV 2nd Catholic Edition has been completely reverse interlinearized. If you have a license to the RSV2CE, then these licenses will enable the Old Testament, Deuterocanon, and New Testament reverse interlinear portions.
- RSV Old Testament Reverse Interlinear: If you own the RSV, then this license will enable the RSV OT reverse interlinear.
- RSV Apocrypha Reverse Interlinear: If you own the RSV, material for the deuterocanon portions has been reverse interlinearized based on the RSVCE. There are a few more books (books in the Protestant "apocrypha" but not considered deuterocanonical; e.g. 3 and 4 Maccabees) to reverse interlinearize, and those will be integrated in a future release.
- Angels, Demons, and Deities in the Bible Dataset: An analysis of supernatural beings in the Bible noting type (angel, demon, deity, other), optional location, and a flag on whether the being can be considered "evil".
- Angels, Demons, and Deities in the Bible Dataset Documentation: Brief documentation for the dataset.
- Noncanonical Texts' Use of the Bible Dataset: An intertextual analysis of several corpora and their use of Biblical material (OT, Deuterocanon/Apocrypha, and NT). Corpora include Apostolic Fathers, Nag Hammadi Codices, New Testament Apocrypha, Old Testament Pseudepigrapha, Dead Sea Scrolls Sectarian Material, Works of Philo, and Works of Josephus. Intertextual relations between the Bible and these corpora have been classified as either Citation, Quotation, Allusion, or Echo, using the same label schema as the New Testament Use of the Old Testament dataset.
- Noncanonical Texts' Use of the Bible Dataset Documentation: Brief documentation for the dataset.
The following datasets are scheduled to be updated on October 16, 2017:
- Bible Knowledgebase Events: Localization updates
- LCV Concepts: Five resources added
- NT312 Los Evangelios y la pedagogía en la Antiqüedad (Craig Evans)
- CH111 Understanding the Protestant Reformation: Precursors and Legacy (Various)
- PD211 Christian Life from a Kingdom Perspective (Ben Withrerington III)
- TH331 Perspectives on Creation: Five Views on Its Meaning and Significance (Various)
- OT366 Book Study: Daniel and Its Literary and Historical Contexts (Wendy Widder)
- Systematic Theology Cross-References (Spanish): Added Teologica concisa (J.I. Packer)
- Biblical Theology Cross-References (Spanish): Removed Teologica concisa (J.I. Packer)
- Grammar Cross-References (Spanish): Localization updates
- Grammar Cross-References (English): Localization updates
- Systematic Theology Cross-References (English): Added Plain Theology for Plain People (Charles Octavius Boothe)
If for some reason these updates are not made available today (Monday, October 16) I will update this thread.
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Rick Brannan (Faithlife) said:
The following new datasets are scheduled to be released for Logos Now subscibers in conjunction with the release of Logos 7.10 on October 16, 2017:
- HCSB Old Testament Reverse Interlinear: If you have a license to the HCSB, then this license will enable the HCSB OT Reverse Interlinear.
- RSV2CE Reverse Interlinear: The RSV 2nd Catholic Edition has been completely reverse interlinearized. If you have a license to the RSV2CE, then these licenses will enable the Old Testament, Deuterocanon, and New Testament reverse interlinear portions.
- RSV Old Testament Reverse Interlinear: If you own the RSV, then this license will enable the RSV OT reverse interlinear.
- Angels, Demons, and Deities in the Bible Dataset: An analysis of supernatural beings in the Bible noting type (angel, demon, deity, other), optional location, and a flag on whether the being can be considered "evil".
- Angels, Demons, and Deities in the Bible Dataset Documentation: Brief documentation for the dataset.
- Noncanonical Texts' Use of the Bible Dataset: An intertextual analysis of several corpora and their use of Biblical material (OT, Deuterocanon/Apocrypha, and NT). Corpora include Apostolic Fathers, Nag Hammadi Codices, New Testament Apocrypha, Old Testament Pseudepigrapha, Dead Sea Scrolls Sectarian Material, Works of Philo, and Works of Josephus. Intertextual relations between the Bible and these corpora have been classified as either Citation, Quotation, Allusion, or Echo, using the same label schema as the New Testament Use of the Old Testament dataset.
- Noncanonical Texts' Use of the Bible Dataset Documentation: Brief documentation for the dataset.
Wow, fantastic additions. [Y][:)] Thanks, Rick and everyone else involved.
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Yes, exciting! Thanks very much to all involved!
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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Rick Brannan (Faithlife) said:
If for some reason these updates are not made available today (Monday, October 16) I will update this thread.
Was this delayed?
7.10 did download, but the interlinear is blank for the HCSB OT, and I don't see any new dataset documentation in the library.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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To my knowledge, resources were published. There may be a delay in the licensing becoming available, I'll query the folks responsible and see what's what.
Thanks!
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Rick Brannan (Faithlife) said:
To my knowledge, resources were published. There may be a delay in the licensing becoming available, I'll query the folks responsible and see what's what.
Thanks!
I've checked, and the licensing is in process. Sometimes the licensing revisions take awhile to percolate through to all users. Thanks for your patience!
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An item that should've been in the "Logos Now" list:
- RSV Apocrypha Reverse Interlinear: If you own the RSV, material for the deuterocanon portions has been reverse interlinearized based on the RSVCE. There are a few more books (books in the Protestant "apocrypha" but not considered deuterocanonical; e.g. 3 and 4 Maccabees) to reverse interlinearize, and those will be integrated in a future release.
I'd originally thought that would be in a later release (7.11), but the team here is so awesome that it snuck into the 7.10 release.
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Rick Brannan (Faithlife) said:
Noncanonical Texts' Use of the Bible Dataset: An intertextual analysis of several corpora and their use of Biblical material (OT, Deuterocanon/Apocrypha, and NT). Corpora include Apostolic Fathers, Nag Hammadi Codices, New Testament Apocrypha, Old Testament Pseudepigrapha, Dead Sea Scrolls Sectarian Material, Works of Philo, and Works of Josephus.
(using Basic Search)
• {Label Intertext WHERE Corpus ~ “Apostolic Fathers” AND Source ~ <Isaiah>}
(using Bible Search)
• {Label Intertext WHERE Corpus ~ “Dead Sea Scrolls Sectarian Material” AND Relationship = “Allusion"}
(using Basic Search)
• {Label Intertext WHERE Corpus ~ “Dead Sea Scrolls Sectarian Material” AND Source ~ <Psalms> AND Relationship ~ “Allusion"}
I can not get a single one of the searches which are listed in the documentation as examples to produce a result. I do see the labels in the context menu, and when I "search this resource" from one of the context menus of a verse which has been tagged I do get results.
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A follow-up question: How to do you get to the reference which has been tagged. In other words, I used this search, {Label Intertext WHERE Corpus ~ "Old Testament Pseudepigrapha"} in the Psalms to find all the instances of OT Pseudepigrapha Labels in the Psalms but isn't there a way to jump to the particular Pseudepigrapha reference which is being pointed to? For instance, Pseudo Philo 11:8 from Psalm 107:32
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James Taylor said:
isn't there a way to jump to the particular Pseudepigrapha reference which is being pointed to? For instance, Pseudo Philo 11:8 from Psalm 107:32
Answered my own question after further investigation...
You can jump to this from the information panel under the section "OTHER REFERENCES", then the subsection "Intertext"
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James Taylor said:
I can not get a single one of the searches which are listed in the documentation as examples to produce a result. I do see the labels in the context menu, and when I "search this resource" from one of the context menus of a verse which has been tagged I do get results.
This is because the documentation resource uses smart quotes, but the search engine requires straight quotes. I'll file a report with the team that processes the raw documentation into resources to see if they can address that issue so that copy/paste of examples will work as expected in the future.
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Rick Brannan (Faithlife) said:
I'll file a report with the team that processes the raw documentation into resources to see if they can address that issue so that copy/paste of examples will work as expected in the future.
Thanks Rick
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Rick Brannan (Faithlife) said:
I've checked, and the licensing is in process. Sometimes the licensing revisions take awhile to percolate through to all users. Thanks for your patience!
Should this take over a day? I have an active LN subscription, but still don't have access to HCSB OT RI or the new dataset documentation.
Thanks!
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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Rick Brannan (Faithlife) said:
This is because the documentation resource uses smart quotes, but the search engine requires straight quotes
Not so. The problem is recognising a Corpus including "New Testament"
Strangely {Label Intertext WHERE Corpus ~ New AND Source ~ <Psalms>} works in a bible, but it gives the same result as {Label Intertext WHERE Source ~ <Psalms>}
But {Label Intertext WHERE Source ~ <Gen-Rev>} does not work in non-bibles.
Dave
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I also have no received these new updates and I'm active on LN.
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Rick Brannan (Faithlife) said:
The following new datasets are scheduled to be released for Logos Now subscibers in conjunction with the release of Logos 7.10 on October 16, 2017:
- HCSB Old Testament Reverse Interlinear: If you have a license to the HCSB, then this license will enable the HCSB OT Reverse Interlinear.
THANK YOU!! I hope this means the CSB is shortly behind [;)]
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I am with the others with LN subs and not seeing the updates...
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Rick Brannan (Faithlife) said:
The following new datasets are scheduled to be released for Logos Now subscibers in conjunction with the release of Logos 7.10 on October 16, 2017:
- HCSB Old Testament Reverse Interlinear: If you have a license to the HCSB, then this license will enable the HCSB OT Reverse Interlinear.
- RSV2CE Reverse Interlinear: The RSV 2nd Catholic Edition has been completely reverse interlinearized. If you have a license to the RSV2CE, then these licenses will enable the Old Testament, Deuterocanon, and New Testament reverse interlinear portions.
- RSV Old Testament Reverse Interlinear: If you own the RSV, then this license will enable the RSV OT reverse interlinear.
- RSV Apocrypha Reverse Interlinear: If you own the RSV, material for the deuterocanon portions has been reverse interlinearized based on the RSVCE. There are a few more books (books in the Protestant "apocrypha" but not considered deuterocanonical; e.g. 3 and 4 Maccabees) to reverse interlinearize, and those will be integrated in a future release.
- Angels, Demons, and Deities in the Bible Dataset: An analysis of supernatural beings in the Bible noting type (angel, demon, deity, other), optional location, and a flag on whether the being can be considered "evil".
- Angels, Demons, and Deities in the Bible Dataset Documentation: Brief documentation for the dataset.
- Noncanonical Texts' Use of the Bible Dataset: An intertextual analysis of several corpora and their use of Biblical material (OT, Deuterocanon/Apocrypha, and NT). Corpora include Apostolic Fathers, Nag Hammadi Codices, New Testament Apocrypha, Old Testament Pseudepigrapha, Dead Sea Scrolls Sectarian Material, Works of Philo, and Works of Josephus. Intertextual relations between the Bible and these corpora have been classified as either Citation, Quotation, Allusion, or Echo, using the same label schema as the New Testament Use of the Old Testament dataset.
- Noncanonical Texts' Use of the Bible Dataset Documentation: Brief documentation for the dataset.
The following datasets are scheduled to be updated on October 16, 2017:
- Bible Knowledgebase Events: Localization updates
- LCV Concepts: Five resources added
- NT312 Los Evangelios y la pedagogía en la Antiqüedad (Craig Evans)
- CH111 Understanding the Protestant Reformation: Precursors and Legacy (Various)
- PD211 Christian Life from a Kingdom Perspective (Ben Withrerington III)
- TH331 Perspectives on Creation: Five Views on Its Meaning and Significance (Various)
- OT366 Book Study: Daniel and Its Literary and Historical Contexts (Wendy Widder)
- Systematic Theology Cross-References (Spanish): Added Teologica concisa (J.I. Packer)
- Biblical Theology Cross-References (Spanish): Removed Teologica concisa (J.I. Packer)
- Grammar Cross-References (Spanish): Localization updates
- Grammar Cross-References (English): Localization updates
- Systematic Theology Cross-References (English): Added Plain Theology for Plain People (Charles Octavius Boothe)
If for some reason these updates are not made available today (Monday, October 16) I will update this thread.
Where woI love you these datasets show up? In pop-up menu’s?
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Pastor Michael Huffman said:
Where woI love you these datasets show up? In pop-up menu’s?
Yes. For example, with the Angels, Demons, and Deities dataset, if you:
- right-click on a word referring to God (or another nation's god), a <Supernatural Being, Type: Deity, Name: ...> label will show up in the right side list of the context menu.
- click on a word referring to God, the same label information will show up in the Information Pane.
You'll also be able to search for that new label in the search box, and it will also be showing up (soon) in the Bible Browser.
If you look in your library, you should also see dataset documentation which provides examples on how you can use the new datasets.
The new reverse interlinears will appear in the usual Interlinear (or Inline Interlinear) for their respective bible translations.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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Although I'm a Logos Now user, the datasets aren't available for me at this moment. Any information?
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I look forward to the implementation of the Noncanonical Texts' Use of the Bible Dataset in the desktop version whenever that happens (Logos 8?). This should be a tremendously helpful tool for biblical studies scholars. Well done.
BTW, I am not sure whether these datasets are home-grown or developed from previously existing databases but I have felt for a long time that in this day and age, we certainly have the means to map out data extensively and thus enhance study. I am grateful and excited at the kind of things we can now do. It's been quite of ground covered since the old Logos 2.x version I started with.
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Rick Brannan (Faithlife) said:James Taylor said:
I can not get a single one of the searches which are listed in the documentation as examples to produce a result. I do see the labels in the context menu, and when I "search this resource" from one of the context menus of a verse which has been tagged I do get results.
This is because the documentation resource uses smart quotes, but the search engine requires straight quotes. I'll file a report with the team that processes the raw documentation into resources to see if they can address that issue so that copy/paste of examples will work as expected in the future.
The examples should be hyperlinked too, so we don't need to copy/paste!
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Updates received!
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