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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Sep 25 2018 2:05 AM

I have always been taught that the first parable in the Bible is Nathan's parable to David re:Bathsheba. I was surprised, first that the Propositional Outline did not tag it as a parable. In fact using the Bible Browser Propositional Outline implied Old Testament parables begin in the Wisdom literature..

So I used the Parable facet of the Bible Browser to verify that Nathan did not appear as a speaker nor did David appear as an audience. So I check my library to verify that Nathan's story is normally labeled a parable ... as you can see the commentaries are rather consistent on the matter.

So on what grounds does Logos remove the story from the usual list of OT parables? Or is this another data error?

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Randall Cue | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 12 2018 3:11 PM

I thought the first parable was the one that Jotham gave to the leaders of Shechem in Judges 9.

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Sean Boisen | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 13 2018 1:44 PM

It's labeled as a parable in the Parables dataset: Bible search for {Label Parable WHERE Speaker ~ <Person Nathan (prophet)>}

You can find it in Bible Browser by starting with Parables > Speaker: Nathan (prophet):

Propositional Outline annotation is primarily clause-level elements, so it's not a very reliable way to find longer genre items like parables.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 14 2018 2:34 PM

Thanks Sean ... I need to play around a bit more on how to find things in "invisible" data sets. I usually count on thr right-click context menu.

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Sean Boisen | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 14 2018 2:42 PM

MJ. Smith:

Thanks Sean ... I need to play around a bit more on how to find things in "invisible" data sets. I usually count on thr right-click context menu.

It's in the context menu, but that's busy enough now that it's easily missed. You have to open the Label group on the right side, which is hiding a number of goodies.

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MJ. Smith:
I usually count on thr right-click context menu.

All these data sets are displayed under “Other References” in the Information Panel; I’d recommend starting to look there first.

(We've heard feedback that the context menu is too cluttered, so a future version of Logos may trim down the information displayed there to just the most important/commonly-used data. So while it might work right now, as long as you expand all the collapsed categories, I wouldn't build workflows that rely on everything being displayed on the context menu.)

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 14 2018 9:56 PM

Thanks for the tip - I'm not a fan of information but agree I need to change my practice.

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