Why the descrepancy of resources between L4 and L3?

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Steven L. Spencer | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, May 20 2010 11:26 AM

I have 2,215 resources in L4, but only 1,287 resources in L3.  Is there a reason for this? Is there something I can do to make sure my L3 has all the resources I have in L4?  Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions.

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David P. Moore | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 20 2010 12:02 PM

Hi Stephen, the interlinears among other sources are hidden in L4 because of the way they are integrated in the new software. If you want to compare what you have in L4 to L3, the better way to do it is probably to have run your library file thru Mark Barnes's tool on his blog (http://www.4-14.org.uk/wp-login.php?action=login&view=forum).That itemizes out everything you have in your library.

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David P. Moore | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 20 2010 12:03 PM

Well, never mind. I re-read your post and it seems you have the reverse problem!

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Garrett Ho | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 20 2010 12:19 PM

All of the books available in Logos 4 are available in Logos 3, I believe. There are some books not updated for Logos 4.

Thus, if you have your licenses sync'd, and all the resources downloaded, you should have more available in Logos 3. Since you don't, it is likely that you haven't manually downloaded resources for Logos 3 for which you have license. Logos 4 automatically downloads them.

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Garrett Ho | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 20 2010 12:23 PM

Unfortunately I don't know of an easy way to download the books that you're missing. This is one of the major benefits of Logos 4, in my opinion.

The fewest steps (but highest bandwidth and disk space) would be to download them all from the FTP and put them in your resources folder.

Alternatively, you can make a list of resources you're missing and then download them individually. Since you have Logos 4 (assuming you've upgraded) then all of the new resources that came with your package upgrade (or crossgrade) are not in Logos 3 unless you've manually downloaded them. That is a place to start.

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 20 2010 12:40 PM

Garrett Ho:

Unfortunately I don't know of an easy way to download the books that you're missing. This is one of the major benefits of Logos 4, in my opinion.

The fewest steps (but highest bandwidth and disk space) would be to download them all from the FTP and put them in your resources folder.

Alternatively, you can make a list of resources you're missing and then download them individually. Since you have Logos 4 (assuming you've upgraded) then all of the new resources that came with your package upgrade (or crossgrade) are not in Logos 3 unless you've manually downloaded them. That is a place to start.

Peace to you!  *smile*      There IS an easy way.  Worked for me ....  I don't have time to look it up now as leaving my study   ...

However, in December, on a Logos Blog, there was a script for putting your licensed books into L3 ...    Using the L3 downloading process ..

I have portfolio, and I clicked that part of the script; and now I have my resources on L3 and L4

         ...........Mel

P.S. If you need me to look up the script later on, I will do so.    Will return to this thread to see if the need is there!

Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

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Steven L. Spencer | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 20 2010 12:55 PM

Thanks, Milford. The need is there. Thanks!

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 20 2010 7:57 PM

Steven L. Spencer:

Thanks, Milford. The need is there. Thanks!

Peace to you, Steven!  *smile*

This is from a Logos Blog - December 4, 2009 by Phil Gons  -  You can look it up in the Logos Blog archives if this copy of that text doesn't link properly.

Using Your New Logos 4 Resources in Logos 3 or Logos for Mac 1

http://www.logos.com/images/products/5486.jpgAll of our Logos 4 base packages are packed with new content. If you crossgrade from Gold version 3 to Gold version 4, you’ll add almost 200 new resources to your library. If you upgrade to a higher-level base package—from, say, Leader’s version 3 to Silver version 4—you’ll likely pick up even more new resources.

Did you know that you can use the vast majority* of your new Logos 4 resources in Logos 3 or Logos for Mac 1? Although Logos 4 is intended to replace our previous generation software, some of you may want to continue to run both versions side by side for a little while.

  1. If you’re a Mac user, you may want to continue to use Logos for Mac 1 as well as Logos 4 for Mac until the latter comes out of testing and is more reliable for daily use.
  2. If you’re a Windows user, you may want to continue to use Logos 3 alongside Logos 4 until you learn the ropes of Logos 4 or until your favorite feature gets added.

One of the great things about Logos 4 is that it installs right alongside of Logos 3 and Logos for Mac 1, so you can continue to use both as long as you’d like without any problems.

Maybe you’re on the edge about upgrading because you aren’t sure if you’re ready to learn a whole new program, or you’re not sure if your computer can even handle Logos 4. The good news is that you can still take advantage of our incredible introductory base package and base package upgrade discounts without having to commit to switching to Logos 4 entirely or at all. When you’re ready to make that transition, you’ll be all set. In the meantime, you can add a ton of new books to your existing Logos 3 or Logos for Mac 1 library at some of our lowest prices ever.

Here’s how:

Step 1: Purchase a Logos 4 Base Package

Purchase one of our base package upgrades by going to our customized upgrade discounter. Even if you’re not going to run Logos 4 exclusively or at all (for now) and you just want the books, you’ll still want to purchase a Logos 4 base package or base package upgrade so you can use those books on Logos 3 or Logos for Mac 1.

Step 2: Sync Your Licenses

After you’ve purchased, installed, and logged in to your new Logos 4 base package or base package upgrade, the next step is to sync your new licenses back into Logos 3 or Logos for Mac 1. You can do this in Logos 3 or Logos for Mac 1 by going to Tools > Library Management > Synchronize Licenses. This will guarantee that all of your new Logos 4 licenses are in place so your books will show up as unlocked when you copy them over.

Step 3: Load Your Books

Now that you’ve updated your licenses on Logos 3 or Logos for Mac 1, the next step is to load your books.

Loading Your Books from a Media-Only Disk or Disk Set

Logos 4 uses a new and improved resource format (.logos4) to enable some cool new functionality, so you won’t be able to load the resources from the Logos 4 DVD. Instead, you’ll need to purchase one of the new media-only disks, which have Logos 3 and Logos for Mac 1 versions (in .lbxlls format) of the new Logos 4 resources.

If you need a CD set (on 12 disks), it’s available for special order by calling 800-875-6467.

When you get your disk or disk set, open Logos 3 or Logos for Mac 1 and insert the disk. You’ll be prompted to copy the new resources to your hard drive. If you’re not, you can load them by going to Tools > Library Management > Location Manager on Windows or Tools > Library Management > Resource Installer on Mac. After Logos has copied all of the files over, be sure to repeat the process with the remaining disks.

Loading Your Books via Download

If you’re a Windows user, you’d rather not spend the money for the media-only disk or wait for it to arrive, and you have a fast internet connection, you can load your new books on Logos 3 by running a resource update script. Just click the link for your base package below, and Libronix Update will download all of the available resources from our server that are missing from your computer.

Warning: This could be a very large download—up to 6GBs of files. If you can’t handle large downloads, your best option is to purchase the media-only DVD.

Building Your Library

Another question that comes up from time to time from people using our old and new software side by side is if they can continue to purchase Pre-Pubs and other books and get them to work in both versions.

All of our add-on products will work in Logos 3, Logos for Mac 1, and Logos 4 unless otherwise stated. We’ll make sure to put a clear note on the product page if it won’t work on all four platforms. So you can safely purchase for any or all versions of our software that you use.

Disk or Download?

We’re moving in the direction of delivering our products via download. It’s easier and less expensive for us and for you. When you purchase the downloadable version of an individual title or collection, we’ll provide you with instructions for loading the books on all of our platforms. You’ll be able to add your new books to as many platforms as you use.

The disk method, which is usually a CD-ROM, requires that you’re using (or are willing to install) our previous generation software: Logos 3 or Logos for Mac 1. If you choose the CD-ROM option, you’ll need to load your new books into Logos 3 or Logos for Mac 1, sync your licenses, and then launch Logos 4. Logos 4 will see the new license and will automatically fetch the files from our server and download them.

So there you have it. Enjoy using your new books on whichever versions of our software you have.

*Some books in Logos 4 are not able available in .lbxlls format for technical reasons (e.g., Logos 4 Media Resources and the new reverse interlinears).

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 20 2010 8:05 PM

Also, if you are able to download to L3 the resources you are missing, be sure to use account management to synchronise your resourses with the Logos Computer, and later on if you have to reinstall Logos 3 for any reason you will have your license handy to load your backed-up files that I hope you will have...

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Steven L. Spencer | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 21 2010 1:58 PM

Thanks, Milford. I didn't get them all, but considerably more. I don't use L3 that much. Just not ready to delete it yet. Thanks to all for your suggestions.

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, May 21 2010 2:28 PM

Steven L. Spencer:

Thanks, Milford. I didn't get them all, but considerably more. I don't use L3 that much. Just not ready to delete it yet. Thanks to all for your suggestions.

You're welcome, Steven.  I don't use L3 that much anymore either.  Like having it there.  Now and again I look at some of my many PBB's.  Also, since I have a lot of free space on my hard drive, now and again I will do a study on L3 that is different from what I am studying in L4.  A totally independent and different study so I don't have to put my L4 stuff in a layout.

Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

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