Thoughts on Logos 9 Arrival?

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Brian W. Davidson | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Oct 21 2019 6:58 PM

What is the current consensus on when Logos 9 is expected?

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David Wanat | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 21 2019 7:10 PM

8 only came out this year, didn’t it? I wouldn’t expect it before 2021 at the earliest 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 21 2019 7:35 PM

David Wanat:
8 only came out this year, didn’t it?

No, last year (in October, so almost exactly one year). 

David Wanat:
I wouldn’t expect it before 2021 at the earliest 

FL does not make comments on things like this, but they have gone to about a two year development cycle. I would expect Fall 2020. 

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Robert M. Warren | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 22 2019 3:28 AM

JT (alabama24):
I would expect Fall 2020

Let's hope they keep Logos great

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Joseph Turner | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 22 2019 4:31 AM

Based on comments on the forums and the last two cycles, I agree that we have some small amount of confidence that they would aim for fall of 2020

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 22 2019 4:48 AM

My pocketbook hopes it is still at least a year away. Wink

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Nord Zootman | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 22 2019 6:05 AM

Bruce Dunning:

My pocketbook hopes it is still at least a year away. Wink

Yes

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 22 2019 6:33 AM

I'm excited for 9 as well but let's not forget that they still have L8 features to finish...

e.g. Source Criticism dataset

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David Wanat | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 22 2019 7:13 AM

JT (alabama24):

David Wanat:
8 only came out this year, didn’t it?

No, last year (in October, so almost exactly one year). 

David Wanat:
I wouldn’t expect it before 2021 at the earliest 

FL does not make comments on things like this, but they have gone to about a two year development cycle. I would expect Fall 2020. 

A year already? It didn’t feel like that long. Time flies I guess 🙂

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Kevin A Lewis | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 22 2019 7:14 AM

Are future 9 features still being released in the old "Logos Now" fashion - or is that old news.?

Never bought into that approach myself

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mab | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 22 2019 7:27 AM

Bruce Dunning:
My pocketbook hopes it is still at least a year away

I used to feel this way about a new release, but once your library reaches a certain size, the price of admission is chump change.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 22 2019 11:34 AM

Kevin A Lewis:
Are future 9 features still being released in the old "Logos Now" fashion - or is that old news.?

Not really. A "faithlife connect" subscription provides ALL features, new & old. It isn't billed as a "tommorows features NOW" type of thing. 

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Adam Borries (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 23 2019 10:16 AM

Mattillo:

still have L8 features to finish... e.g. Source Criticism dataset

Just as a point of clarification: we have already shipped the Source Criticism dataset. This is a supplemental dataset which labels the source of Old Testament passages as J, E, P, D, or L, according to Eissfeldt's 1922 analysis. You can learn more about how to use the dataset in its documentation.

To your larger point, there are some Logos 8 features that we are still working on. Two that come to mind are The Composite Gospel harmony and Text Comparison Interlinear Deuterocanon Dataset. Data for both of these are still being finalized.

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Mattillo | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 23 2019 10:56 AM

Adam Borries (Faithlife):

Mattillo:

still have L8 features to finish... e.g. Source Criticism dataset

Just as a point of clarification: we have already shipped the Source Criticism dataset. This is a supplemental dataset which labels the source of Old Testament passages as J, E, P, D, or L, according to Eissfeldt's 1922 analysis. You can learn more about how to use the dataset in its documentation.

To your larger point, there are some Logos 8 features that we are still working on. Two that come to mind are The Composite Gospel harmony and Text Comparison Interlinear Deuterocanon Dataset. Data for both of these are still being finalized.

i stand corrected; my apologies and thank you for the updates 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 23 2019 11:05 AM

Adam Borries (Faithlife):
This is a supplemental dataset which labels the source of Old Testament passages as J, E, P, D, or L, according to Eissfeldt's 1922 analysis.

I hope this is not considered "completed" as I would like Mowinkel's Jeremiah which is in AFAT and used to be readily available i.e. before base of the interlinears/reverse interlinears was done. And some version(s) of the Gospel/Q should also be added.

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 23 2019 11:43 AM

The Notes tool is far from finished, there is lots to be done to get it up to an acceptable standard. i have no interest in Logos 9 until the Notes Tool works correctly across all platform. I would also think there is more work to be done on the ST dataset to expand its coverage.

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 23 2019 12:22 PM

Accordance will be releasing Version 13 soon and their “Sermon Editor” (called Paper) will finally blow Logos’s sermon editor out of the water! They have improved it on so many levels it’s going to be the best sermon builder tool ever.  And to think Logos was, in my opinion, only one step away from reaching perfection and the number 1 spot for sermon editor tool  — but they never added the ability to insert pictures that zoom in and out on the main points and subpoints of the sermon editor to help people who present from their screen to avoid using PowerPoint all together.  Accordance’s sermon editor (Paper) even has the ability to collapse and un-collapse the outline’s subpoints and sub-subpoints so you can present one point at a time! And they’ll be improving their sermon editor even more upon version 13’s release! How about that! After all, isn’t writing sermons just as important as other features for studying and teaching God’s Word?

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Ps. You can even add hyperlinks and create your own customized  links in Paper; something so basic you can’t do with Logos’s sermon editor.

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 23 2019 12:44 PM

Accordance also has Carta, just saying ....

DAL:

Accordance will be releasing Version 13 soon and their “Sermon Editor” (called Paper) will finally blow Logos’s sermon editor out of the water! They have improved it on so many levels it’s going to be the best sermon builder tool ever.  And to think Logos was, in my opinion, only one step away from reaching perfection and the number 1 spot for sermon editor tool  — but they never added the ability to insert pictures that zoom in and out on the main points and subpoints of the sermon editor to help people who present from their screen to avoid using PowerPoint all together.  Accordance’s sermon editor (Paper) even has the ability to collapse and un-collapse the outline’s subpoints and sub-subpoints so you can present one point at a time! And they’ll be improving their sermon editor even more upon version 13’s release! How about that! After all, isn’t writing sermons just as important as other features for studying and teaching God’s Word?

DAL

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Michael | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 23 2019 12:52 PM

DAL:

Accordance will be releasing Version 13 soon and their “Sermon Editor” (called Paper) will finally blow Logos’s sermon editor out of the water! They have improved it on so many levels it’s going to be the best sermon builder tool ever.  And to think Logos was, in my opinion, only one step away from reaching perfection and the number 1 spot for sermon editor tool  — but they never added the ability to insert pictures that zoom in and out on the main points and subpoints of the sermon editor to help people who present from their screen to avoid using PowerPoint all together.  Accordance’s sermon editor (Paper) even has the ability to collapse and un-collapse the outline’s subpoints and sub-subpoints so you can present one point at a time! And they’ll be improving their sermon editor even more upon version 13’s release! How about that! After all, isn’t writing sermons just as important as other features for studying and teaching God’s Word?

DAL

Ps. You can even add hyperlinks and create your own customized  links in Paper; something so basic you can’t do with Logos’s sermon editor.



Accordance 13's new note markup tool also looks awesome.  Markers/arrows that resizes automatically if the text is resized???  Amazing.  They're also getting Dark Mode!  PDF Import.  These features may be enough to for me to run Accordance along side Logos.  And I'd gain access to Sacred Bridge also.

I think Faithlife should pay very close attention.

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