Move files to HD
I got the instructional DVDs yesterday and there is a note that says: "For best performance, you should move the files from the DVDs to your hard drive." [That should say "copy" not "move" but that shouldn't be an issue for most people.]
But there are no instructions for this, so here's a suggestion (note that some things will be slightly different between Windows XP, Vista and Windows 7):
- Using Windows Explorer, create a folder under MyDocuments called Logos Video Tutorials (or whatever you want to call it), and click on that folder (there should be nothing there).
- Open a second instance of Windows Explorer and navigate to your DVD, and make sure you can see both instances of Explorer (side by side, or top/bottom).
- From the DVD click and drag Learn_to_Use_Greek or Learn_to_Use_Hebrew from the DVD window to the MyDocuments/Logos Video Tutorials/ window. This will copy all the files and internal file structure to your hard drive. Note that this can take some time (15-30 min., or more), depending on your machine.
- Then open the folders you just created and right click on the file: Learn_to_Use_Greek.html or Learn_to_Use_Hebrew.html and select "Create Shortcut"
- Click and drag that shortcut to your desktop for easy access to the files.
- If you wish you can rename the shortcuts on your desktop by right clicking and selecting Rename. I called one Greek Tutorials and the other Hebrew Tutorials. (Putting the word Greek or Hebrew first makes it easier for me to quickly distinguish the shortcuts.)
- You could also change the icon for the shortcuts, if you want by right clicking and selecting Properties. Then from the Shortcut tab select Change Icon. (You can use the Logos program icon by browsing to your user files/appdata/local/Logos4 and clicking the Logos4.exe program.) NOTE: it would be nice if Logos included a Logos4 icon on the DVD, but it doesn't--maybe in the future.
Hope this helps. If I missed a step, or if someone else has a better idea, let us know.
EDIT: finished my sentence in step 2.
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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Richard,
Sorry for the OT but did they come USPS or other method?
Robert Pavich
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Robert Pavich said:
Richard,
Sorry for the OT but did they come USPS or other method?
They came USPS First Class. In fact they had actual postage stamps on them. (!)
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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Richard DeRuiter said:
Open a second instance of Windows Explorer and navigate to your DVD, and make sure you
Excellent idea to post this ... but did you intend to finish the sentence?
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Richard DeRuiter said:
got the instructional DVDs yesterday and there is a note that says: "For best performance, you should move the files from the DVDs to your hard drive."
Given that more and more laptops (and computers(?)) are shipping without DVD drives, are there any plans to make these videos available for download in some fashion. My two newest computers do not have DVD drives.
I have an older external drive, but it is clumsy to use. I also have a 3 year old laptop with a DVD drive that I could use to make copies. However, downloading them would be far easier.
I expect the answer is "no" am prepared to use one of the workarounds. But thought I would ask before I started the process.
Blessings,
FloydPastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
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MJ. Smith said:Richard DeRuiter said:
Open a second instance of Windows Explorer and navigate to your DVD, and make sure you
Excellent idea to post this ... but did you intend to finish the sentence?
Eventually. [;)]
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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Floyd Johnson said:Richard DeRuiter said:
got the instructional DVDs yesterday and there is a note that says: "For best performance, you should move the files from the DVDs to your hard drive."
Given that more and more laptops (and computers(?)) are shipping without DVD drives, are there any plans to make these videos available for download in some fashion. My two newest computers do not have DVD drives.
I have an older external drive, but it is clumsy to use. I also have a 3 year old laptop with a DVD drive that I could use to make copies. However, downloading them would be far easier.
I expect the answer is "no" am prepared to use one of the workarounds. But thought I would ask before I started the process.
Even if there are plans to eventually make this product available as a downloadable item (probably off in the distant future sometime), your best bet is probably to go ahead with the non-ideal solution you've got at hand already. Amazing that DVDs are becoming obsolete already! Just be thankful this didn't ship on floppy disks!
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Rosie Perera said:
Just be thankful this didn't ship on floppy disks!
Floppy what??
OK. I remember backing up the 80 MB HD on my first computer using 3.25 floppies. Took about 40-50 of them and of course, you have to sit there and swap them out. I recall being very happy to learn about differential backups.
I doubt optical drives will disappear too soon (at least I hope not). On ultralight computers and those netbook thingies there isn't room, so they are already gone. The way flash memory is going though, who knows?
Floppies. I thought they'd be around forever. Even stocked up on them at one point.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Floyd Johnson said:
Given that more and more laptops (and computers(?)) are shipping without DVD drives, are there any plans to make these videos available for download in some fashion.
Floyd:
We don't have any plans at present to provide other formats than physical DVDs. Your best bet for computers that don't have DVD drives is to copy them to a (large) USB flash (thumb) drive: you'll need 8 Gb for each DVD.
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Mark A. Smith said:
I remember backing up the 80 MB HD on my first computer using 3.25 floppies. Took about 40-50 of them and of course
Given the next post.....8 GB per dvd.....80*100 is 8000 MB or 8GB .....So someone can go buy four or five thousand disks make that Ten thousand floppy disks.....
Not!!!
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Mark A. Smith said:
OK. I remember backing up the 80 MB HD on my first computer using 3.25 floppies.
My first computer did not have a hard drive. It had two 51/4" floppy drives, one for the program and one for data. I had stacks of 51/4's laying around. My first computer with a hard drive was 20 mb and I remember thinking I would never fill it up. Who would have ever thought we would watch videos on a computer through removable media. [:O]
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Fred Chapman said:
It had two 51/4" floppy drives
Fred, you must have bought the upgraded computer.....all I could afford was two 21/4" hard drives. I tried to afford the 12 3/4 inch but just could not
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Fred Chapman said:
My first computer did not have a hard drive. It had two 51/4" floppy drives, one for the program and one for data. I had stacks of 51/4's laying around. My first computer with a hard drive was 20 mb and I remember thinking I would never fill it up. Who would have ever thought we would watch videos on a computer through removable media.
TI 99/4a all the way! Nothing like the horrible squelch of loading from a cassette drive.
For us Old School geeks, could we get a TI app from the L4 code masters? Does anyone know where to get the official h.264 codec for a TI?</tongue in cheek> [:P]
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Eric Ruhnow said:
TI 99/4a all the way! Nothing like the horrible squelch of loading from a cassette drive.
Cassette tape all the way. I chose a TRS-80 Model I (from Radio Shack). It had no color, but with its wider text display, it worked better as a word processor, etc.
Blessings,
FloydPastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
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Eric Ruhnow said:Fred Chapman said:
My first computer did not have a hard drive. It had two 51/4" floppy drives, one for the program and one for data. I had stacks of 51/4's laying around. My first computer with a hard drive was 20 mb and I remember thinking I would never fill it up. Who would have ever thought we would watch videos on a computer through removable media.
TI 99/4a all the way! Nothing like the horrible squelch of loading from a cassette drive.
For us Old School geeks, could we get a TI app from the L4 code masters? Does anyone know where to get the official h.264 codec for a TI?</tongue in cheek>
Punched paper tape more fun for storing programs [;)] - followed closely by punched card decks => floor sort [:'(]
Keep Smiling [:)]
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- followed closely by punched card decks => floor sort
My youngest son is doing some programming in a computer class at college, we started to talk about my computer programming, via punch cards. Keyboards were available at the time, but the prof thought that keyboards were just a fad, everybody would be using those punch cards forever..... LOL. I hated that class.
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Richard DeRuiter said:
if someone else has a better idea, let us know.
Not necessarily a "better idea" but different. Instead of copying the files to my hard drive, I wanted to see them just playing from the dvd rom drive. They look fine so I have no need to copy them although others may. FYI
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Any instructions on moving the DVD's to a MAC's HD? Thanks.
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Daniel Jones said:
Any instructions on moving the DVD's to a MAC's HD? Thanks.
Daniel I just moved the files to the desktop It was just that simple.
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Thanks Jerry.
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Punched paper tape more fun for storing programs
- followed closely by punched card decks => floor sort I took a FORTRAN class on punched cards. I had a roommate who worked for NOAA in the 80's and they were still using paper tape to load their programs on board their ships.
I own an abacus and a slide rule. Part of my ancient technology collection, which also includes my 8" floppy disk from when I was in college, and a magnetic tape backup of my account on the mainframe, which there's no way to read now even if I wanted to.
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We used to use small piles of rocks near the mouth of the cave. You could use a large jawbone to replace 20 rocks, if you needed to record large numbers.
We had one guy that claimed he once needed two jawbones, and some other guy claimed no-one would ever need more than 5, ever!
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Rosie Perera said:
I own an abacus and a slide rule. Part of my ancient technology collection, which also includes my 8" floppy disk from when I was in college, and a magnetic tape backup of my account on the mainframe, which there's no way to read now even if I wanted to.
I had a can of solvent with ground up iron particles (courtesy of Phillips Petroleum) that would allow me to see the tracks on the tape. With a sufficiently powerful microscope, you could also see the bits, though you could not distinguish the 0's and 1's. I still have the solvent, but the iron has run its course through 24 years of teaching and demonstrating.
Going back to those days, I also have a bit of wire-wound core memory and a spool of 3-inch wide tape used for large scale backup.
Blessings,
FloydPastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
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JimT, I will never forget the day a friend of mine discovered that most people had 10 fingers and 10 toes. This discovery allowed us to use the rocks for other things. However, it is still best to make sure each person has the same number of toes and fingers or it will throw off your calculations.
I believe this is where the concept of a laptop came from!!!
We were sure no one would ever need more toes or fingers than we had, but then some one mentioned evolution, and we knew that would lead to trouble.
In Christ,
Jim
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Rosie Perera said:
I own an abacus and a slide rule. Part of my ancient technology collection, which also includes my 8" floppy disk from when I was in college, and a magnetic tape backup of my account on the mainframe, which there's no way to read now even if I wanted to.
Imagine series: 556, 800, 1600, and 6250 turns up some memories. [8-)]
Circular slide rules were fun to use. [ap]
Remember learning hands useful for multiplying digits 6 through 10 (if knew multiplication tables from 0 to 5 first). [:^)]
Lunar Lander: simulation using teletypewriter with dial-up computer connection ? burn rate per second. [^]
By the way, copying files to hard disk useful - watching for download video improvements. For example, greek alphabet missing delta and upsilon along with creative letter substitution. [:$]
[Y] Copies of presentation slide decks would be good.
[I] possibly Logos 4 resource (like Biblical Things) - could open in panel for reference during study.
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Rosie Perera said:
I own an abacus and a slide rule.
A question.....can you efficiently use the slide rule?
A mathematics professor of mine in Socorro, NM has a couple of the early "adding" machines. It was a real blast to see and actually use those for a bit. I will say this for the slide rule and the adding machines.......you really have to know some math ahead of time to be able to really use them. The keyboard had the numbers 1-9 in 8 columns. I know that it would be much faster to do paper and pencil math to this machine.
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William Bingham said:Rosie Perera said:
I own an abacus and a slide rule.
A question.....can you efficiently use the slide rule?
A mathematics professor of mine in Socorro, NM has a couple of the early "adding" machines. It was a real blast to see and actually use those for a bit. I will say this for the slide rule and the adding machines.......you really have to know some math ahead of time to be able to really use them. The keyboard had the numbers 1-9 in 8 columns. I know that it would be much faster to do paper and pencil math to this machine.
I confess that I never learned how to use the slide rule. It was given me by my dad who was given it as a gift, as a collector's item, an antique. It's lovely, but it sits in its box collecting dust. I did learn how to use the abacus (which I bought at the gift shop of the old Computer Museum in Boston which doesn't exist anymore), at least for simple addition and subtraction. But I was never very efficient at it. My calculator and even pencil and paper were much faster.
Here's a cool abacus video. And there's even an app for that.
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Rosie Perera said:
I confess that I never learned how to use the slide rule. It was given me by my dad who was given it as a gift, as a collector's item, an antique. It's lovely ...
It sounds nice. Well not wanting to give too much away (too late) I learnt how to use a slide rule.
At its most basic level, its two bits of sliding plastic, so it only knows how to add or subtract one length of plastic to or from the other. Seems useless unless you mark the scale in log(x), then adding is multiply, and subtract is divide. Thats it really. OK, so mine had x^2 and x^3 scales and a sin() and cos() and maybe
a tan() one too. I forget. A $2 calculator does it better now, and more functions. Times change!There, by talking about sin(), its ok here in the Logos forum right?
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JimT said:
At its most basic level, its two bits of sliding plastic, so it only knows how to add or subtract one length of plastic to or from the other. Seems useless unless you mark the scale in log(x), then adding is multiply, and subtract is divide. Thats it really.
That's about as good a functional description as could be, Jim.
I have three slide-rule "artifacts" still -
1. The compact aluminum sliderule that I used in high school and college (both back in he 1960's). (My first slide rule was a full-length plastic one, but I found the compact aluminum design that replaced it to be quite accurate and portable.)
2. A pocket-sized plastic circular slide rule, kept merely as a curiosity (I never really ever used it).
3. A gold-colored (coated brass, probably) slide rule tie clip. (Gee, I haven't actually worn any tie clip in half a century.) It's actually functional, but is probably accurate to about 1 to 2 significant figures - [:D] .
Fred
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By the way, my cryptic comments above in response to Keep Smiling 4 Jesus with the airplane icon meant that I studied and got my pilot's license and instrument rating. Though there are digital calculators to do most of this stuff now, many pilots still use a kind of circular slide rule to compute all kinds of things involved in flight planning.
And to make sure this has some relevance to Logos, did you know there's a hymn (in both Steve Green's MIDI Hymnal and Logos Hymnal) called "Jesus, Savior, Pilot Me"?) -- cool! There's also an entry in The New Encyclopedia of Christian Martyrs on missionary Jim Elliot and his pilot friend Nate Saint and the others in their team who were killed by the Aucas in Ecuador.
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Rosie Perera said:
By the way, my cryptic comments above in response to Keep Smiling 4 Jesus with the airplane icon meant that I studied and got my pilot's license and instrument rating.
Able to take off and land in foggy or dark conditions demonstrates Faith in equipment - possible an illustration for Hebrews 11:1 [ap]
Glider solo => every landing is an emergency - no option to try again - bit different than copying video files to hard drive.
[I] Wonder about USB drive option for Logos physical deliveries ? (personally prefer electronic download)
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Able to take off and land in foggy or dark conditions demonstrates Faith in equipment - possible an illustration for Hebrews 11:1
I actually heard a speaker (Steven Covey I think) use flying on instruments as an illustration for living by faith, making course corrections along the way. Actually I'm pretty sure it was Covey, because here's someone using that same illustration and citing Covey.
Sorry, this has gotten so far off the original topic of this thread. My plane was hijacked, and the thread came along for the ride! [:)]
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I am obviously missing a step. When I click and drag the "Learn .... " title from the DVD box to the tutorial folder created in My Documents, all I get is a shortcut. It does not copy the files from the DVD.
I am using Windows XP Professional operating system.
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SandraChristiansen said:
I am obviously missing a step. When I click and drag the "Learn .... " title from the DVD box to the tutorial folder created in My Documents, all I get is a shortcut. It does not copy the files from the DVD.
I am using Windows XP Professional operating system.
(caveat - I'm a Mac user so this might not work). Have you tried Right clicking on the folder with the files in and "copying" them, then "pasting" them in your required destination?0 -
SandraChristiansen said:
I am obviously missing a step. When I click and drag the "Learn .... " title from the DVD box to the tutorial folder created in My Documents, all I get is a shortcut. It does not copy the files from the DVD.
I am using Windows XP Professional operating system.
I assume you're click/dragging the folder "Learn to Use Biblical Greek" from the DVD to your "My Documents/[Logos Video Tutorials]" folder (or whatever you named the folder).
You may have something set up which is different than the default behavior. Normally in Windows to click and drag a file or folder from one drive to another copies the file or folder to the destination directory. Apparently you have something set up differently on your machine.
The right-click method lostlogik suggests will work for Windows.
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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Richard DeRuiter said:
I assume you're click/dragging the folder "Learn to Use Biblical Greek" from the DVD to your "My Documents/[Logos Video Tutorials]" folder (or whatever you named the folder).
You may have something set up which is different than the default behavior. Normally in Windows to click and drag a file or folder from one drive to another copies the file or folder to the destination directory. Apparently you have something set up differently on your machine.
Before you try to drag, try holding down the Shift key first before you click to drag, or try holding down the Ctrl key first before you click to drag (in either case, press and hold the key down as you then click on the folder and drag it). (The Shift+drag and Ctrl+drag combinations have different effects on dragging - copying, moving, or making a shortcut - depending on the context.) One or the other of those combinations will generally change what dragging does from whatever the default is to copying or moving, etc.
Or. to copy without dragging, just click on the source folder (e.g., "Learn to Use Biblical Greek") to select it, and press Ctrl+C to copy, and then click on the destination location folder (e.g., "My Documents/[Logos Video Tutorials]", etc.) where you want that folder to go, and press Ctrl-V to paste the source folder into the destination folder.
Fred
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I want to thank the people who got back to me in such a short time about copying the "Learn Greek/Hebrew" DVDs to my computer. You got me started in the process and were a great encouragement. The missing steps after creating the new destination folder for Windows XP Professional are: pray for wisdom, in My Documents: select file to copy on the DVD, select Edit menu under My Documents, select copy files to folder, select the destination folder you created, hit OK. The simple highlight and drag or highlight / copy files/ drag did not do it.
Thanks, Sandra
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See my post at the ipad section for watching these great teachings on your ipad...
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Question:
Is "MyDocuments" the BEST place to put two 8 gig DVD copys?
[some one put them on the DeskTop]
Many of us backup our MyDocuments directory [that is where most of data we changed is] - that will add 16 gig to the backup
Can we come up with some other 'standard' location?
[the other folder names are ok but maybe putting each in its own sub folder - maybe so thing like]
[some place for use as a root (see first post)]
[Logos Video Tutorials ]
[Greek video]
[Hebrew video]
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David Ames said:
Question:
Is "MyDocuments" the BEST place to put two 8 gig DVD copys?
[some one put them on the DeskTop]
Many of us backup our MyDocuments directory [that is where most of data we changed is] - that will add 16 gig to the backup
Can we come up with some other 'standard' location?
[the other folder names are ok but maybe putting each in its own sub folder - maybe so thing like]
[some place for use as a root (see first post)]
[Logos Video Tutorials ]
[Greek video]
[Hebrew video]
You're right, I don't see any need to back them up since you've got the original DVD which you'll keep in a safe place I'm sure. I don't think we're going to come up with a "Standard" location that everyone will use, nor is that needed. How about a folder in the root of your hard disk, e.g., C:\Logos Videos\Learn to Use Greek and C:\Logos Videos\Learn to Use Hebrew. You can call them whatever you want, as they're on your PC and won't affect anyone else.
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David Ames said:
Question:
Is "MyDocuments" the BEST place to put two 8 gig DVD copys?
[some one put them on the DeskTop]
Many of us backup our MyDocuments directory [that is where most of data we changed is] - that will add 16 gig to the backup
Can we come up with some other 'standard' location?
[the other folder names are ok but maybe putting each in its own sub folder - maybe so thing like]
[some place for use as a root (see first post)]
[Logos Video Tutorials ]
[Greek video]
[Hebrew video]
You're right about the disadvantage of putting these files there regarding backups (BTW, on my machine, the Hebrew tutorial directory is 4.68GB, and the Greek one are 7.07GB for a total of 11.75GB, not 16G, but that's still beside your point).
"My Documents" may not be the 'BEST' place for these files, depending on your way of working. I suggested putting them there because every user has access to his/her My Documents folder, know how to find it, and many have created sub-folders in the My Documents folder already. Many users have never created a folder at all, or never one outside of My Documents. So for someone who needs directions, this seemed the simplest.
Also, most decent backup programs have an option to deselect a folder for backup. And for that small number of users who actually back up their data, most already know how to do that (especially if backup space is an issue and the user also has a large number of other media files).
For users like me, who have a large, external HD devoted to backups, backup space is a non-issue and adds a second layer of protection to my investment.
My guess is that for users like you, who know their way around Windows enough, my suggestions are superflous anyway. Put them wherever you want.
If you would like to offer a set of instructions to install them elsewhere, be my guest.
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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JimT said:
We used to use small piles of rocks near the mouth of the cave. You could use a large jawbone to replace 20 rocks, if you needed to record large numbers
ROFL.
You've got me beat Jim. TI-99 & Timex-Sinclair, moved up to TRS-80. Getting back to the topic....
Wonder about USB drive option for Logos physical deliveries ? (personally prefer electronic download)
What about the larger SD cards? For a short while Logos offered the Media only SD cards. It might be a better delivery mechanism than DVDs or download.Logos 7 Collectors Edition
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Is there a way to do the copy to my hard drive while I am using Google as my prefered internet connection.
Thank you
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I am confused at your question. These video's are on the CD. If you open the disk from windows explorer you will be able to copy the folder of files to the HD. I see no need of Google.
Additionally, you might consider changing your forum name to help limiting email spam bots from getting your address. http://wiki.logos.com/Changing_Forum_Display_Name
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William Bingham said:
am confused at your question. These video's are on the CD. If you open the disk from windows explorer you will be able to copy the folder of files to the HD. I see no need of Google.
I see no need to use the internet - which is what Google is all about. I can think of one exception, but it would cloud the picture to mention that here.
Blessings,
FloydPastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
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Floyd Johnson said:
I see no need to use the internet
This is what I was thinking when I talked about google. I stated google as that is what the poster mentioned. Thanks Floyd.
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I had no fear that you understood - just wanted to make sure the person asking the question understood. I am sorry if you thought I was misunderstanding you.
Blessings,
FloydPastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
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Richard DeRuiter said:
I got the instructional DVDs yesterday and there is a note that says: "For best performance, you should move the files from the DVDs to your hard drive." [That should say "copy" not "move" but that shouldn't be an issue for most people.]
Richard what "instructional DVDs" are you talking avout?
I’ve had the “learn the Greek and Hebrew” videos for several weeks now. Is this something new you are talking about?
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That was an excellent idea to the moving file to hd preserves space.
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