Lexham Context Commentary?

Did I somehow miss this on PrePub? I just saw this today... looks interesting.

https://www.logos.com/context-commentary

It'd be a shame if they didn't have it on PrePub first for a few to get it at a discount first but oh well... maybe I missed it somewhere

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Jan Krohn

This is looking good! I hope it's gonna be included in an L9 base package, as I don't have the spare change to buy it now at full price.

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087302#Comment_1087302

I don’t think it was in Prepub, they just released it — either way you can use your faith life connect 25% off to get it.

DAL

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087302#Comment_1087302

I hope it's gonna be included in an L9 base package

I was thinking the same thing. This looks like a great resource.

Ryland Brown

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087311#Comment_1087311

I bought it. It's a solid resource that does what it says. Well worth the $100 if one can afford it.

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087331#Comment_1087331

I’ll wait for a sale or hope for L9 inclusion. What perplexes me is the lack of advertisement.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087331#Comment_1087331

It's a solid resource that does what it says.

I've also purchased it. It drives me nuts with comments like "the mysterious wise men" where I see nothing in the text that makes them "mysterious" or with prayer "day and night" being assumed to be figurative rather than checking the Jewish prayer hours of Paul's time. The latter led me down a rabbit trail of three Jewish hours of prayer being associated with the three patriarchs ... Jacob being the origin of evening prayer. Oh, yes, back to the resource at hand. One of the strengths of the volume is that it is very repetitive - in a positive way. If you pick up midway through a pericope, you can count on seeing the relevant material being repeated on your verse. For a commentary to dip into this is a real plus. It also does a good job of pointing out the obvious - i.e. it doesn't assume "everybody knows" how "behold" is used; this makes it useful to all levels of readers in a very positive sense. The scope of the commentary seems to be fairly narrow - identifying the hierarchical structure of the text, how that structure is marked in scripture, where the given passage fits in the structure, what links are provided to the wider history of God in the world. Don't expect to find very much on how pronouncement stories or chiasms are used to organize the text. But yes, I recommend the book -- just don't ask me about FL's "literal" level of the text throughout their products.

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087332#Comment_1087332

From the samples, I prefer the LRC as I think they give you more than what this new series gives you. Besides, like MJ said, what’s so mysterious about the wise guys?

DAL

Wayne Clarke

It's a few dollars off when you order it as part of the Lexham Press New Testament Commentaries Bundle (21 vols.). If you are not able to take advantage of the Connect 25% off coupon, it makes it cheaper.

https://www.logos.com/product/189366/lexham-press-new-testament-commentaries-bundle

It is the only product I do not own in the 21 volume bundle, so the dynamic pricing drops the 3-volume Context Commentary to $92.08 USD.

Ryland Brown

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087336#Comment_1087336

It's a solid resource that does what it says.

If you pick up midway through a pericope, you can count on seeing the relevant material being repeated on your verse. For a commentary to dip into this is a real plus. It also does a good job of pointing out the obvious - i.e. it doesn't assume "everybody knows" how "behold" is used; this makes it useful to all levels of readers in a very positive sense.

For me, this is a value of the book. I like a technical commentary written toward the seminary and a applicable commentary written toward the pew. This work helps in a little bit more nuanced way by helping readers connect the dots from the author of the text's perspective. Giving some explanation to the pericope's purpose to the overall section is great as I use more technical resources. Not losing the forest for the trees... I'm happy with it.

Mike Binks

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087347#Comment_1087347

Anyone any idea how this works?

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087356#Comment_1087356

Anyone any idea how this works?

That would happen if individual items are on sale, but the bundle itself isn't.

By the way, Connect subscribers have temporary access to some of those commentaries. Did you want to buy the ones you're subscribed to?

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087359#Comment_1087359

Anyone any idea how this works?

That would happen if individual items are on sale, but the bundle itself isn't.

By the way, Connect subscribers have temporary access to some of those commentaries. Did you want to buy the ones you're subscribed to?

I’m a connect subscriber and I don’t see them. Are they only accessible through the desktop app? Because I just searched for them in my phone and nothing shows up.

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087338#Comment_1087338

BTW, does the set include graphics or just text?

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087368#Comment_1087368

Anyone any idea how this works?

That would happen if individual items are on sale, but the bundle itself isn't.

By the way, Connect subscribers have temporary access to some of those commentaries. Did you want to buy the ones you're subscribed to?

I’m a connect subscriber and I don’t see them. Are they only accessible through the desktop app? Because I just searched for them in my phone and nothing shows up.

DAL

I was referring to the Verse by Verse commentaries in Mike’s screenshot.

J. Remington Bowling

Not sure I understand why these resources exist. Nearly every commentary I've read has thoroughly discussed context, not just at the beginning but throughout the shifts or sections within a book. And not just the broad or narrow context, but both.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087372#Comment_1087372

Not sure I understand why these resources exist

That was my impression. But, I'm not a pericoper, so MJ's point on that is good.

Being a bad girl by nature, I'm forever suspicious of Lexham, since you can't tell where they're coming from. Even the translations. I feel far more comfortable with known-perspective, even opposite my own (eg Brown on one end, and IVP on the other).

Jack Caviness

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087372#Comment_1087372

Not sure I understand why these resources exist. Nearly every commentary I've read has thoroughly discussed context, not just at the beginning but throughout the shifts or sections within a book. And not just the broad or narrow context, but both.

Did you read my mind? Careful, that could be dangerous. From the descriptions in the thread, I see no reason to purchase a volume that contains information that should be in any decent technical (or even Intermediate) commentary.

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087371#Comment_1087371

Anyone any idea how this works?

That would happen if individual items are on sale, but the bundle itself isn't.

By the way, Connect subscribers have temporary access to some of those commentaries. Did you want to buy the ones you're subscribed to?

I’m a connect subscriber and I don’t see them. Are they only accessible through the desktop app? Because I just searched for them in my phone and nothing shows up.

DAL

I was referring to the Verse by Verse commentaries in Mike’s screenshot.

Aaah ok👌 Thanks!

Ted Weis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087378#Comment_1087378

Why isn't there a video demonstration of how this resource works?

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087380#Comment_1087380

Why isn't there a video demonstration of how this resource works?

And as expected from most Lexham Press resources, no sample pages to evaluate the resource a bit. About 97% of Lexham Press resources have no previews; in spite of the fact we’ve been kindly asking for them.
The resource seems interesting, but let’s just hope it gets included in a starter package for L9.

Anyway, it’d be nice if those who purchased it could post an entire chapter like Ephesians 6 or Hebrews 3 or James 3, etc. A little cooperation would be appreciated by both Faithlife and other users. Who knows, maybe with some samples some might end up buying...hint, hint! 👍😁👌

DAL

mike

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087385#Comment_1087385

I would wait for L9 to make any purchases. It's only less than a year, you guys can do it! Meanwhile read those other thousand of books you have sitting cold in the library.

Jonathan Bradley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087385#Comment_1087385

Does anyone have an idea if an OT version of this is in the works?

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087370#Comment_1087370

BTW, does the set include graphics or just text?

No graphics that I have run into.

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087391#Comment_1087391

BTW, does the set include graphics or just text?

No graphics that I have run into.

Thanks! My decision is easier now 👍😁👌

DAL

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087372#Comment_1087372

Not sure I understand why these resources exist.

By focusing on a single type of criticism, it serves as (a) an example of how that criticism works (b) illustrates the strengths and weaknesses of the method (c) gets one sufficiently comfortable with the method to call it out when misapplied or seek more information when needed (d) serves as a bridge from Rykan's works to Bible text.

Veli Voipio

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087393#Comment_1087393

By focusing on a single type of criticism

Do you mean narrative criticism?

The blurb does not say it, but I can infer that now.

My friend is a supporter of narrative criticism, and I am happy to be in the same boat - although I feel I understand it narrative criticism as much as the snowman in the backyard.

Veli Voipio

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087394#Comment_1087394

Well, the temptation was too high, I bought it (the storm outside allows me an end-of-the-world urgency)

For me it looks like a good one for a Bible study group leader. Nevertheless can be a good starting point for a serious study.

I like the outlines.

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Here is one example:

Parables About God’s Love for the Lost (15:1–32)

As Jesus continues to describe what it means to be an heir of the kingdom, he turns to describing God’s attitude toward the “lost” people who come into that kingdom. In Luke 15:1–32, Jesus offers three pictures of rejoicing over something that was lost that has been found. And in each instance, the person who finds what was lost throws a feast. The specific reason for Jesus sharing these three parables about lostness is to explain why his ministry is focused on the population that the religious elite haughtily identify as “sinners,” unworthy of their attention. This is not God’s attitude toward even the lowest prodigal who nonetheless “comes to himself” and repents.

Parable of the Lost Sheep (15:1–7)

When Pharisees and scribes complain about Jesus’ choice of company, he speaks the first of three parables about lostness to them. Jesus tells about a shepherd with one hundred sheep. When one of the sheep wanders away, the shepherd leaves the rest of the fold to find the lost one. The shepherd rejoices when he finds the lost sheep. The emphasis is that God loves sinners and celebrates their repentance.

15:1–2 The religious leaders complain that Jesus keeps company with people they deem to be sinners.

15:3–4 Jesus speaks a parable to the religious leaders in response to their complaint. Jesus’ parable describes a man who loses one of his one hundred sheep and leaves the ninety-nine to find one sheep that has wandered from the fold.

15:5–6 When the sheep is found, the shepherd rejoices and celebrates with his friends that he has found his sheep.

15:7 The point of the parable is stated in 15:7. God joyously celebrates over the repentance of sinners.

Parable of the Lost Coin (15:8–10)

Jesus’ second parable about lostness is about a woman who has ten coins and loses one. She searches until she has found the lost coin and then celebrates its recovery. Likewise, God celebrates the repentance of a sinner.

15:8 Another parable illustrating the same point as the earlier parable is spoken. This time the parable concerns a woman with ten silver coins who loses one and anxiously searches for it. As in the previous parable, the possession lost has value to the one who has lost it.

15:9 Once the woman has found her coin, she celebrates her discovery with her friends.

15:10 The point of the parable is once again stated. God rejoices when those who are lost repent.

Mangum, D. (Ed.). (2020). Lexham Context Commentary: New Testament (Lk 15:1–10). Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press.

I took this example because I am speculating that the lost sheep parable points to the Jews and the lost coin (drakhma δραχμὰ) to the pagans. The commentaries what I have don't say anything like that, unless I have missed some. This outline commentary does not say it either.

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087478#Comment_1087478

Thanks for the sample! I wish it was more, but it’s enough to get an idea. In regards to outlines and great practical explanations, I like MacArthur’s commentaries and John Phillips both provide extensive outlines. Great starting point for expository lessons! My new set of works by Cyril Barber is proving extremely helpful too. Anyway, the commentaries look ok 👌 but I think I’ll wait for a better sale or for them to hopefully make it into a starter or bronze bp when L9 comes out

👍😁👌

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087491#Comment_1087491

”See inside” with sample pages is now available. Small practical commentary for each section. Too basic, but still useful to get a jumpstart during sermon prep or a class.

Thanks for the sample sections!

DAL

J. Remington Bowling

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087393#Comment_1087393

By focusing on a single type of criticism, it serves as (a) an example of how that criticism works (b) illustrates the strengths and weaknesses of the method (c) gets one sufficiently comfortable with the method to call it out when misapplied or seek more information when needed (d) serves as a bridge from Rykan's works to Bible text.

While these are all good things, I'm still not sure it justifies the existence of the commentary series since all of these points can be covered in a book on contextual criticism that included several examples. I'm not trying to suggest that there is no value in a commentary series focusing on a particular angle within biblical studies or theology. The Lexham Geographic Commentary, for example, has value in that it focuses more heavily on an angle that is often overlooked or only touched on lightly by other commentaries. But I don't know of any commentary that overlooks or only touches lightly upon context.

Doug Mangum (Lexham)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087389#Comment_1087389

Does anyone have an idea if an OT version of this is in the works?

There are discussions about extending this to cover the OT. We're planning on it as likely to happen, but it's not being actively written yet.

Doug Mangum (Lexham)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087519#Comment_1087519

... still useful to get a jumpstart during sermon prep or a class.

This was meant to be part of the appeal of this approach. It's concise and direct. You can get a quick orientation before you decide whether you need to go deeper in your standard commentaries.

Mason Miller

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087556#Comment_1087556

... still useful to get a jumpstart during sermon prep or a class.

This was meant to be part of the appeal of this approach. It's concise and direct. You can get a quick orientation before you decide whether you need to go deeper in your standard commentaries.

This is perfect for me. For preparing sermons on any given week, quick and concise context and structure is exactly what I want to get a jump start on the text or to compare notes after I've gotten started. In seminary I used and prized the majorly technical commentaries, but now that I've got people in the hospital to see, staff to work with, people to meet with and disciple, and general church direction to provide, I prize quick and concise sermon helps.

Thanks for putting this together!

Veli Voipio

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087569#Comment_1087569

Gospel of John is missing from this commentary.

I expect Douglas will add it some day.

Kenneth Neighoff

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087571#Comment_1087571

Gospel of John is missing from this commentary.

I expect Douglas will add it some day.

there was a blurb about this on the Lexham Context Commentary page, it is scheduled to ship Q2 or 2020.

Veli Voipio

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087575#Comment_1087575

Gospel of John is missing from this commentary.

I expect Douglas will add it some day.

there was a blurb about this on the Lexham Context Commentary page, it is scheduled to ship Q2 or 2020.

Ok, thanks!

Mattillo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087578#Comment_1087578

It can now be found in a bundle for those interested. If this bundle were on the Lexham site I'd probably grab it but I didn't see it earlier.

https://www.logos.com/product/189366/lexham-press-new-testament-commentaries-bundle

DAL

They should include it in MM2020 or offer a good introductory price for next month’s sale 👍😁👌

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087556#Comment_1087556

... still useful to get a jumpstart during sermon prep or a class.

This was meant to be part of the appeal of this approach. It's concise and direct. You can get a quick orientation before you decide whether you need to go deeper in your standard commentaries.

Any chance you can reactivate my FL Connect 25% off coupon so I can add it to my library. Or better yet, a 30% off introductory price some time soon to celebrate its release 👌

DAL

Dan Cleghorn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087580#Comment_1087580

It can now be found in a bundle for those interested. If this bundle were on the Lexham site I'd probably grab it but I didn't see it earlier.

https://www.logos.com/product/189366/lexham-press-new-testament-commentaries-bundle

Check out each set separately. I can get the two sets I do not have, Osborne and LCC, ordering separately, at regular price, cheaper than buying this package at dynamic pricing.

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087627#Comment_1087627

It can now be found in a bundle for those interested. If this bundle were on the Lexham site I'd probably grab it but I didn't see it earlier.

https://www.logos.com/product/189366/lexham-press-new-testament-commentaries-bundle

Check out each set separately. I can get the two sets I do not have, Osborne and LCC, ordering separately, at regular price, cheaper than buying this package at dynamic pricing.

How’s that possible? The regular price is $99.99 for LCC and in a bundle I can get it for $92.08. It’s the only set I’m missing.

DAL

Wild Eagle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087633#Comment_1087633

How’s that possible? The regular price is $99.99 for LCC and in a bundle I can get it for $92.08. It’s the only set I’m missing.

DAL

Thats the beauty of dynamic pricing. The only disadvantage is that if you decide it to sell, you will have to sell entire bundle.

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087636#Comment_1087636

How’s that possible? The regular price is $99.99 for LCC and in a bundle I can get it for $92.08. It’s the only set I’m missing.

DAL

Thats the beauty of dynamic pricing. The only disadvantage is that if you decide it to sell, you will have to sell entire bundle.

I’ll get it separately if I decide to buy it. I got the 5 Solas Series with my credit. I’ll have another coupon to get this one next month or wait for a better sale. No rush 👍😁👌

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1087638#Comment_1087638

Well, a simple call got me a good discount 👍😁👌 Now it’s part of my library! Not so in depth, but good for quick reference for my screen cast YouTube videos.

PS. The best part, I purchased it as a separate resource and not the bundle, so is not tied up to my other commentaries 👍😁👌