L4 layouts--how to create them without content

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Dan Butcher | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Jul 7 2010 7:45 AM

I'm slowly learning how to use Logos 4 (on a Mac), and one of the areas I'm confused about is layouts. I understand the concept of saving layouts, but as far as I can tell, my layout saves not only the arrangement of tabs and tiles but also the content of those tabs and tiles.

For example, I was studying Proverbs 8, got everything arranged as I wanted, and saved the layout. A few days later, I was  studying Proverbs 11 and wanted to apply the layout I had saved when I was working  on Proverbs 8. When I clicked on that saved layout, Proverbs 11 went away and I was back to Proverbs 8.

In other software I use (Adobe Photoshop, for instance), there's the concept of creating workspaces so that window and palette positions are saved, but those saved workspaces can be applied to any content. Is there a way to create a blank layout that I can apply to my current study topic? Or do I need to open a layout and then change the passage?

Any help would be appreciated.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 7 2010 8:31 AM

Dan Butcher:
Is there a way to create a blank layout that I can apply to my current study topic?

No there isn't. Layouts always include content in Logos 4, at least at this time.

You could make this as a suggestion in the Suggestion forum.

Dan Butcher:
Or do I need to open a layout and then change the passage?

That would be the way to do it. Many of us have set up layouts for various types of studies and when we want to do that kind of study we switch layouts and start with what we last saved, changing it as needed.

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Dan Butcher | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 7 2010 8:52 AM

Mark, thanks for the quick reply! 

Now that I know what the workflow needs to be, my time in Logos 4 will be much less frustrating!

I will make a suggestion for blank layouts.

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Fred Chapman | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 7 2010 10:29 AM

Dan Butcher:

Mark, thanks for the quick reply! 

Now that I know what the workflow needs to be, my time in Logos 4 will be much less frustrating!

I will make a suggestion for blank layouts.

Something I usually do is save additional layouts for a specific passage or study I am doing. The layout is essentially the same resources as say my "master" study layout, but focused on the specific passage I am working with.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 7 2010 2:07 PM

Fred Chapman:
Something I usually do is save additional layouts for a specific passage or study I am doing. The layout is essentially the same resources as say my "master" study layout, but focused on the specific passage I am working with.

I use this same method, but I sometimes wish I could have a master template that would control all my layouts. This way when I decide my layouts need a new panel/pane/window, I can change all layouts at once.

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Fred Chapman | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 7 2010 3:49 PM

Jack Caviness:
I use this same method, but I sometimes wish I could have a master template that would control all my layouts. This way when I decide my layouts need a new panel/pane/window, I can change all layouts at once.

That would be a nice featureYes

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Jonathan Burke | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 7 2010 8:06 PM

Dan, your experience is precisely why I stopped using layouts. Starting from a new guide or search does what I want. It would be more convenient to use layouts if they were either blank or context based.

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Fred Chapman | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 7 2010 8:35 PM

I find the layouts feature very useful. It took some time to develop some layouts to accomodate good workflow processes; but I have found the feature to be very useable. If you have not done so, I suggest reviewing the link to the wiki page. In addition to the information on the page, there are some links to some videos that are helpful.

http://wiki.logos.com/Layouts

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