Favorite Wordsearch Features
What are your favorite Wordsearch features? What would you like to see us add to or improve in Logos?
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ZipScript, easiest way for me to paste verses into my sermons
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Logos has an "Action" that works in MS Word that allows you to type in a reference, right click on it, select "Additional Actions" - Logos Bible Software - Replace with passage and your scripture is pasted in. Within Logos Bible Software you can select the Bible you want to use, and you have virtually unlimited control over the format of what is pasted. I find this quick and easy. Here's a screenshot of the Action the MS Word right click menu:
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Their search feature was much easier to use; it would be nice to add a second search feature to Logos that copied theirs.
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Wordsearch has a "carousel" feature that lets you compare different Bible versions without having to open each Bible individually. For example I have a carousel set up with the NASB95, ESV, CSB, KJV. NIV, and NRSV included, with NASB95 open I can click on the icon and it will cycle through the various translation (displayed in the same frame or window) synced to the same passage without the need to open and close each volume separately.
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Yes, I used that as well. It was very useful.
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Dennis Pence said:
Wordsearch has a "carousel" feature that lets you compare different Bible versions without having to open each Bible individually. For example I have a carousel set up with the NASB95, ESV, CSB, KJV. NIV, and NRSV included, with NASB95 open I can click on the icon and it will cycle through the various translation (displayed in the same frame or window) synced to the same passage without the need to open and close each volume separately.
Logos does the same thing. We call it Parallel Resources. You can navigate your parallel resources through the Parallel Resources icon (the two slanted parallel lines) or by pressing the left or right arrows on your keyboard.
You can set up parallel resource sets as well.
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Mark Galer said:
Their search feature was much easier to use; it would be nice to add a second search feature to Logos that copied theirs.
Can you explain more about how its different and what you liked about it?
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That feature in Word looks great, I would still love to see a full "zipscript" though. Ive used it tons on social media, messaging and emails.
I also loved the search in Wordsearch 12, but will withold further comment until I'm better acquainted with Logos0 -
Illustration Organizer (a way to organize illustrations on the Docs menu and be able to tie them into Sermon docs would be great)
Instant Verse Study (maybe find a way to soup up Copy Bible Verses with it)
ZipScript (a way to make Copy Bible Verses work without Logos running)
Lessonmaker (a Lessons section on the Docs menu would be great, even throwing in some features from the old Logos Lesson Builder would be fun)
Free Friday of Wordsearch titles would be fun too
Dr. Nathan Parker
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Strong's Talking Dictionary would be nice. Since Logos already has the audio pronunciations, just adding the links to the pronunciations to all lexicons would be a handy feature.
The English audio pronunciations would be nice too. Logos already has these as well, but adding them to the right-click menu in Bibles would be nice.
Logos already has the groundwork laid here. Simply adding them to a few easy to access places would be great.
Dr. Nathan Parker
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
Can you explain more about how its different and what you liked about it?
Lots of "Hand holding" I guess. Maybe?
A pop-up Greek/Hebrew keyboard may work a little better for those who use such things.
The Library Tree may make finding the resource to include in a search a bit better.
With the WORDSearch system you can also specify multiple resources from the tree without having to create a collection.(although if i remember correctly W.S. Suggests creating the collection. See the "Save selected books as" link))
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Roy said:
multiple resources from the tree without having to create a collection
One can use temporary collections in Logos where you provide the selection criteria rather than a collection name -- this seems comparable to the library filter.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Roy said:Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
Can you explain more about how its different and what you liked about it?
Lots of "Hand holding" I guess. Maybe?
For me the difference is that my wife can use WordSearch to search without asking for help but if she needs to do a search in Logos she asks for help. Part of the problem is definitely perception i.e. Logos looks more complicated but I do think that for the casual user a lot of functions are not really that easy to use and Search is a good example of a feature that would benefit from a simple or quick option. I know that the WordSearch UI is not state of the art and definitely looks dated but it really is effective.
I'm going to really miss WordSearch if I have to spend more time answering Logos questions. [:)]
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The Sermons Organizer was my favorite feature. I could see the sermons by Date or title, record usage. I know the logos Sermon Editor has a similar thing, but I could cut and paste my sermon from LibreOffice straight in, add some verses, the usage date and place and select keywords.
I was building up a pretty good collection of Sermon Illustrations also.
I could also scroll down the list of keywords or instantly search my sermons.
The search feature collections were very nice. I was just figuring them out. I've always used Swordsearcher for my Bible searches.
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+1 for ZipScript.
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The WORDsearch search feature was not as complicated as Logos. a screen would appear and ask you for the search term, with buttons labeled AND, ANDNOT, OR, etc. to refine your search. The complete search feature they had is difficult to explain; I deleted Wordsearch from my computer already. I wish I would have taken a screen shot of the search panel to post before deleting it. Sorry I am supplying very little information. Maybe of Logos has a copy of wordsearch, you can pull up the search function and see what i mean.
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My mistake, someone already posted a screen shot of their search panel.
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Hi Joel,
I've been a Wordsearch user since the Bible Explorer days, but I transitioned to Logos a few years back. Check out the "Copy Bible Verses" tool in Logos. It's actually better than Zipscript, and gives you full control over the formatting. I'll admit that I haven't used Zipscript in a long time, so perhaps it's better than I remember, but I love "Copy Bible Verses" and use it all the time in my lesson prep.
Bob
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Certainly, I was going to say "Carousel" but you demonstrated a way to do it in Logos. In Wordsearch you can choose how many Bibles and in what order they are, which is very nice. I'd also echo Wordsearch's "Search" function BUT, I need to get familiar with Logos' first to see whether it is needful.
"Strongs" also has been mentioned and I'll second it here. But again, I think I accidently came upon something that mimics it, If only I can remember how... haha
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Zipscript
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I love Instant Verse Study. It is so much fadter than using the passage guide. I was recently attending axworkshop and a verse was mentioned I wanted to check out. In a 15 min break. I was able to get a quick analysis instantly. I love the passage guide, but it is too slow and too in depth for this kind of instant check.
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Nathan Parker said:
Strong's Talking Dictionary would be nice. Since Logos already has the audio pronunciations, just adding the links to the pronunciations to all lexicons would be a handy feature.
The English audio pronunciations would be nice too. Logos already has these as well, but adding them to the right-click menu in Bibles would be nice.
Logos already has the groundwork laid here. Simply adding them to a few easy to access places would be great.
I second this!
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cshover8669 said:
I love Instant Verse Study. It is so much fadter than using the passage guide. I was recently attending axworkshop and a verse was mentioned I wanted to check out. In a 15 min break. I was able to get a quick analysis instantly. I love the passage guide, but it is too slow and too in depth for this kind of instant check.
While I've never used it, it sounds like a nice feature to be added to Logos. [Y]
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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ABWJR said:
"Strongs" also has been mentioned and I'll second it here. But again, I think I accidently came upon something that mimics it, If only I can remember how..
Strongs are supported by Logos (even though real Hebrew and Greek lemmas are superior - I can understand going by a number rather than signs in a script one can't even read) - Reverse interlinears will display those and some lexicon resources are keyed to Strongs.
The screenshot shows a bible with "reverse interlinear" functionality to the right (I choose the LEB, which is free, but you may have NIV, CSB, KJV, ESV, NRSV.... with this functionlity in your library). Click the Aleph&Omega Button and make sure Strongs is selected. Clicking the Strong-# will open the highest prioritized lexicon you own that is keyed to Strongs, mouse-over will offer the definition from this lexicon in a popup.
Have joy in the Lord!
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My favorite feature of Wordsearch is the ability to generate a listing of all the books that I own. This list could then be copied to the computer clipboard and pasted into Word or Excel to create an index of the books. I do not see anything like that in Logos.
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Blaine E. Bauman said:
My favorite feature of Wordsearch is the ability to generate a listing of all the books that I own. This list could then be copied to the computer clipboard and pasted into Word or Excel to create an index of the books. I do not see anything like that in Logos.
Go to the Library and hit Ctrl-P (or go to the "kebap" menu with the three vertical dots on the top right of the library pane and select Print/Export), this will allow you to export the list of resources you own to a spreadsheet file.
Have joy in the Lord!
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ABWJR said:
Certainly, I was going to say "Carousel" but you demonstrated a way to do it in Logos. In Wordsearch you can choose how many Bibles and in what order they are, which is very nice.
In Logos, the answer to how many is "All of them"* and the order is determined by Prioritization: https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019683652-Prioritize-Resources
*Unless a particular Bible doesn't have the reference in question. For example, the Lexham English Septuagint will not appear if you're cycling through versions of John 6!
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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faster not fadter.
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In Wordsearch I could click a button to get the Strong's Numbers for a passage, not just a word search for the Greek or Hebrew; and I can't do that with Logos 8. The tutorials on this are for Logos 7, and are not applicable, because it keeps referring to an Interlinear Function that I don't see in Logos 8. I think I clicked on at least a dozen links on the FaithLife website, none of which were helpful. Make it where you can add Strong's Numbers to any passage with a click of a button. All of this makes me not want to use this software as it's not as user friendly as Wordsearch. More bells and whistles aren't necessarily a good thing... it's biblical equivalent of a "clanging gong or cymbal" Sometimes simpler is better because it's more intuitive
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My Logos 8 doesn't have that button. How do you get that button?
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Cynthia Ellis said:
My Logos 8 doesn't have that button. How do you get that button?
It's available in some, but not all bibles. It should be available even in the free Basic version of Logos for at least LEB - in other bibles it depends on your license. Which did you try
Have joy in the Lord!
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Thanks. I found it in LEB, although I've never used that translation before, but it's also in KJV, so I'm good now. Thanks. Wordsearch is still more intuitive than Logos 8 IMHO though.
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An actual useable program whose functions are easy to use...reasonably priced resources...an interface that actually is intuitive without videos and training camps.
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Bob Price said:
Check out the "Copy Bible Verses" tool in Logos.
Copy Bible Verses tool is indeed a great tool but the program has to be open in order to use it. If I'm writing a casual email, or something else, and want to quote a verse, I have to open Logos, wait for it to load etc... With ZipScript, I just click on it in my taskbar and it is immediate.
Granted, if you are writing papers and things, you'll probably have the program open. I am just a layperson though and if I'm emailing something to a friend, having ZipScript is a much faster and convenient way of getting the verses into the document or email.
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Rick said:Bob Price said:
Check out the "Copy Bible Verses" tool in Logos.
Copy Bible Verses tool is indeed a great tool but the program has to be open in order to use it. If I'm writing a casual email, or something else, and want to quote a verse, I have to open Logos, wait for it to load etc... With ZipScript, I just click on it in my taskbar and it is immediate.
Granted, if you are writing papers and things, you'll probably have the program open. I am just a layperson though and if I'm emailing something to a friend, having ZipScript is a much faster and convenient way of getting the verses into the document or email.
In one of the videos (don't ask me which one or where) I saw it talk about an add-on for some Microsoft products what would allow you to enter a reference into your document, select it, click the tool, and choose "replace with passage" or something like that. Maybe they have what you used ZipScript for.
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I like to use WS during a class or sermon and take notes. I use a different notes file for each pastor rather than constantly noting the reference. (Just "class" for classes.) I assume we'll get our notes files eventually and they will become notebooks of notes.
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In that mode, when the speaker references a different verse, I just type an abbreviation of the reference in the notes. Then I can hover over the reference and get a pop-up of the passage. Nice when you just want to quickly see the whole verse or short passage without jumping there and needing to get back where you came from.
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Richard Ogg said:
In one of the videos (don't ask me which one or where) I saw it talk about an add-on for some Microsoft products
What you describe sounds like a tool called Smart tags. The downside to Smart Tags, as I understand it, is that it is completely unsupported by Faithlife, therefore when something goes wrong, you have to ask for help on the forums in order to try and figure out what went wrong.
I have seen numerous posts in the forums where people have problems with it working (usually after an Office update or change) and they have to ask for help getting it started again. The Wiki has troubleshooting tips such as using Power Shell to fix Smart Tags but that all seems too complex.
For me, ZipScript is easy and never gave me any problems. I never had to worry if whether or not it was going to work if I changed my Office installation. It worked in all programs that supported pasting and it was fully supported too.
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I need to reiterate what someone else said: Copy Bible Verse was much better in WS12
I'm using both programs right now in lesson prep as I try to get accustomed, but copying verses over from Logos is clunky.
I've adjusted the "style" formats and it still seems to require constant reformatting. Adding the "1900" to "KJV" is completely unnecessary and almost every option includes the "1900".
This is, in my opinion, the common text layout for scripture citation:
Jude 1:20-21 (KJV) 20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost, 21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
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Joey Midgett said:Nathan Parker said:
Strong's Talking Dictionary would be nice. Since Logos already has the audio pronunciations, just adding the links to the pronunciations to all lexicons would be a handy feature.
The English audio pronunciations would be nice too. Logos already has these as well, but adding them to the right-click menu in Bibles would be nice.
Logos already has the groundwork laid here. Simply adding them to a few easy to access places would be great.
I second this!
I second this also. Logos has a makeshift way of doing audio pronunciations of English Bible words...if you prioritize the book "That's Easy for You to Say" in the right place, but it always felt kind of make-shift to me. WS rendered the feature more nicely.
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Cynthia Ellis said:
Sometimes simpler is better because it's more intuitive
This is very true. But it is also possible to use Logos in a simple, intuitive way depending upon what tools and resources you choose. My only experience with WordSearch is as a simple program to replace software he had used for years that no longer worked. He was in his mid 90's at the time and the transition was not easy.. The point is that initially any new software may seem foreign and exotic. It takes time to become familiar and intuitive. And as for those "more bells and whistles" remember that while they may mean nothing to you they may be essential to other users. The larger the user base, the more likely some users need unfamiliar bells and whistles.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Thanks Mark, very helpful when I use Word. I still use WordPerfect most all of the time and ZipScript is fast, always available in the taskbar, and it also makes it easy to insert verses in emails, etc. (And using a little program called Pure Text allows the verses I paste to conform to my formatting with a simple click.)
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I liked the Second Monitor Support. Just click on the Display icon from the toolbar and it opens a second space. You can drag a window into the second workspace.
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open a new tab, then in the 3 dots in the top right, select "float this window". Drag and drop it on the other monitor
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So far from the videos I've watched Logos is combersome. The search on Wordsearch was much easier and straight to the point. I've lost most of my Bibles too.
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One thing I would really like to see come over to Logos from Wordsearch is the linking. In Wordsearch, when you linked resources, you could set one as the lead, and others as followers, that way, the links only moved if the lead resource did. When I have a Bible linked to several study Bibles, and the next one in the resource set does not have that exact reference, the entire set moves. It would be really nice to set the Bible as the lead so none of the other links move unless you change the Bible reference.
Thanks, Carla
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You want to use the Multiple Resource display to get the lead-followers relationship. Link sets provides the same function except all resources are treated as equals.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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cshover8669 said:
you could set one as the lead, and others as followers,
Carla, many have asked for that capability in Logos over the years. I'm not sure why it hasn't been implemented.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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cshover8669 said:
One thing I would really like to see come over to Logos from Wordsearch is the linking. In Wordsearch, when you linked resources, you could set one as the lead, and others as followers, that way, the links only moved if the lead resource did. When I have a Bible linked to several study Bibles, and the next one in the resource set does not have that exact reference, the entire set moves. It would be really nice to set the Bible as the lead so none of the other links move unless you change the Bible reference.
Thanks, Carla
Hello Carla and welcome!
I completely agree that having a leader resource when using link sets would be great. Sadly, as you’ve discovered, it’s never happened.
Give the Multiple Resources feature a try and see if that gets you what you want. There’s also a support article on the website concerning Multiple Resource View.
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Mark Smith said:
I'm not sure why it hasn't been implemented.
We have a spec for improve panel linking that we were planning to addressing this year, but it's not going to make it. It adds a new automatic mode as well as the ability to control whether it follows only or follows locations or clicks or both. I hope we can get to it next year.
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