Sermon Builder

Mark
Mark Member Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Is it possible to import an already made sermon from docx to the sermon builder?


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  • DAL
    DAL Member Posts: 10,845 ✭✭✭

    I copy and paste mine, but I don’t know if there’s a way to import them.

    DAL

  • Kenneth Neighoff
    Kenneth Neighoff Member Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭

    Phil, said in another post that is an idea they have thought about, but you can go and vote for it.

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    I suppose we all have our own styles in sermon note preparation.  I have been creating personal books out of my sermons so I can preach from my tablet pc in Logos.  I am trying to warm up to the sermon note preparation, but that is not an easy thing to do when you have used a style that works well for years.



  • David Thomas
    David Thomas Member Posts: 3,272 ✭✭✭

    Mark said:

    I suppose we all have our own styles in sermon note preparation. 

    Here is my workflow:

    1. write sermon in WORD (left third)

    2. Copy/Paste into Sermon Builder (top middle)

    3. Export to PROCLAIM (bottom middle)

    4. Copy Thumbnails from PROCLAIM into WORD (bottom middle to left third)

    5. Save from WORD as a PDF (right third)

    6. Email PDF to my Kindle account for preaching from my Kindle FIRE Tablet. (right third)

    7. Print & archive from WORD into sermon binders. (left third)

    8. Sermon Doc (top middle) becomes part of my Logos ecosystem for later searches.

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  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,826

    David Thomas said:Here is my workflow:

    PHEW! You're making me tired just going through all those steps! ;)

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    David Thomas

    Very helpful.  But what if I don't have proclaim?

    Also, I did a small test of importing word into sermon builder, but when I hover over verses, nothing happens.  When I hover over verses in a sermon made from a personal book, I can read it quickly.



  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,247

    Mark said:

    Very helpful.  But what if I don't have proclaim?

    The Sermon Builder supports exporting to PowerPoint - but I don't know if this will provide the functionality David is describing

    Mark said:

    Also, I did a small test of importing word into sermon builder, but when I hover over verses, nothing happens

    I've just tried and the hover works just fine

    Please provide a few more details - ideally with screenshots

  • David Thomas
    David Thomas Member Posts: 3,272 ✭✭✭

    if this will provide the functionality David is describing

    I end up doing significant editing in Proclaim from the slide that exports (e.g. combining multiple slides into one with bullet points that unveil one at a time). If one exports to PowerPoint be sure to use the "editable text" button.

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  • David Thomas
    David Thomas Member Posts: 3,272 ✭✭✭

    PHEW! You're making me tired

    I question myself if I am doing the "busy work" that L9 is trying to eliminate [:D] fortunately, each step is usually only a few key/mouse clicks.

    I find that the confidence I am able to have from redundancy actually makes me more relaxed come Sunday Morning so I can listen more to the Holy Spirit's prompting during delivery.  But that is just my personality type

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  • William Fox
    William Fox Member Posts: 2 ✭✭

    I vote for the ability to import Word documents directly into Sermon Builder.

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,936 ✭✭✭

    I vote for the ability to import Word documents directly into Sermon Builder.

    I vote for the same thing... This way the Scripture references will actually link in SB.  Yep! that's my vote for what it's worth.

    xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • Kiyah
    Kiyah Member Posts: 2,838 ✭✭✭✭

    5. Save from WORD as a PDF (right third)

    6. Email PDF to my Kindle account for preaching from my Kindle FIRE Tablet. (right third)

    Doesn't it automatically save to OneDrive? You can view documents with the OneDrive app on your Kindle Fire. You can't edit it but you can at least view it. 

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    xnman said:

    I vote for the ability to import Word documents directly into Sermon Builder.

    I vote for the same thing... This way the Scripture references will actually link in SB.  Yep! that's my vote for what it's worth.

    If this were possible, I think I would be won over.  I have my own style of note for preaching and I prefer my fonts, my spacing, my bullets and headers to what I have so far seen in Sermon Builder. If I can keep what I produce in Word so that it looks the same in Sermon Builder, I think I would be won over.



  • David Brock
    David Brock Member Posts: 1 ✭✭

    This is exactly where I am. I've just spent the last couple hours trying to figure out how to duplicate my format in Word and to make it an easier process, but it doesn't appear yet to be at that level. I'm a traditional outline organizer and that isn't even possible to do if you use the headings. 

    I vote for the Word import and to be able to place multiple subpoints on one slide. 

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,936 ✭✭✭

    The problem here is.... some people (raises hand high) .... don't use clouds.  If you've ever been hacked (raises hand again) then you'll be more careful.  Years ago I would have never thought Facebook would be doing the things they are doing now.... and so with any cloud.

    There used to be a saying... A secret is only a secret if one person knows it. It two know it, it's no longer a secret.   Sound good to me!  [:-*]

    xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks MVP Posts: 7,459

    xnman said:

    The problem here is.... some people (raises hand high) .... don't use clouds.

    Surely if somebody breaks into your cloud storage, and steals your sermon, one puts it down to missionary work on ones time sheet?

    tootle pip

    Mike

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  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,936 ✭✭✭

    xnman said:

    The problem here is.... some people (raises hand high) .... don't use clouds.

    Surely if somebody breaks into your cloud storage, and steals your sermon, one puts it down to missionary work on ones time sheet?

    LOL .... excellent point Mike Binks.... shows to go you, someone's always thinking!

    xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,946

    xnman said:

    The problem here is.... some people (raises hand high) .... don't use clouds.  If you've ever been hacked (raises hand again) then you'll be more careful.

    I've been hacked ... I use clouds. If you don't use cloud, then unfortunately Logos is not the product for you. My basic principle for avoiding being hacked -- keep the problem uninteresting, hackers need the entertainment value 'cuz from me the financial incentives aren't worth the effort.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    xnman said:

    The problem here is.... some people (raises hand high) .... don't use clouds.  If you've ever been hacked (raises hand again) then you'll be more careful.

    I reiterate.  If I can write my sermons in Word and then import them into sermon builder, and it keeps my format...then I can be sold on this product.  If the cloud does not work...I still have an offline copy not only on my computer, but also in Logos.  This is why PB has worked so well for me.  As computers get smaller, the full Logos programs works on the tablet computer I take to the podium and I can preach from a sermon I published as a PB.  If Sermon Builder can do similar, it will work even better with more options.  But I do not rely on the cloud.  Thankful for it, but do not rely on it, especially when I am in areas where there is no internet access or cellular services available.



  • MWW
    MWW Member Posts: 429 ✭✭

    I'm a traditional outline organizer and that isn't even possible to do if you use the headings. 

    Me too! My sermons tend to have 6 heading levels but the formatting in Sermon Builder doesn't allow for indented outlines in the main body of the sermon and the formatting options are extremely limited and/or time consuming to try and format.

    I also find when I copy and paste from Word into the Sermon builder and try to use the preach mode, that although Sermon Builder recognizes my headings, preach mode capitalizes them all making them hard to read. If I was one of those fire and brimstone shouting preachers [8o|], I might prefer my sermons all capitalized. 

    I would like it if there was better compatibility between Word and the SB, especially if the SB could pick up text formatting.

  • Claude Guex
    Claude Guex Member Posts: 33 ✭✭

    I'm very close to do all the same steps.

    But with a few more for the slides as I'm joining in PowerPoint the slides I'm taking from logos (maps, verses, ...) and the other where PowerPoint is better to do things (colors, animations, ...)

  • Claude Guex
    Claude Guex Member Posts: 33 ✭✭

    Hope that the goal of Logos is to study Bible and not to force people to use cloud ...

    I'm working in a company who is fighting the hack and I take care to save everything locally...

  • Kurt Winsley
    Kurt Winsley Member Posts: 8 ✭✭

    Resurrecting an old thread in hopes of getting some suggestions...

    You copy/paste your Word document into Sermon Builder. Is there a way to keep the headers as headers, normal text as normal text, outlined sections as outlines? Every time I copy/paste into SB, I end up having to reformat the document to make things line up like they are in Word. I don't usually do anything complicated, but would like to avoid all the extra work of adding the indents and so forth, if possible.

    Any suggestions? Maybe a video I should watch to learn more?

    Thanks!

    Kurt

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    Kurt

    I have not revisited the Sermon Builder site since the beginning of this thread. I work under the assumption that the desired changes I wish to see have not been implemented and so I have no interest in using Sermon Builder.  I make personal books which work great for me.

    If Sermon Builder has changed since this thread, I do not know anything about it.

  • Kurt Winsley
    Kurt Winsley Member Posts: 8 ✭✭

    Mark,

    Thanks for the reply. It doesn't even hold my headings at this point, so I'd say if it has changed, it hasn't been in a positive direction, unless I'm doing something wrong. 

    I guess I'll try out the personal books approach.

  • David Thomas
    David Thomas Member Posts: 3,272 ✭✭✭

    It doesn't even hold my headings at this point, so I'd say if it has changed, it hasn't been in a positive direction, unless I'm doing something wrong. 

    when I copy/paste from WORD, my main points come across as Heading 1 and my Subpoints come across as Heading 2. My bulleted and numberered rows import as normal text. I do have to indicate "prompt", "illustration" and "blockquote" after pasting into Sermon Builder.

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  • Kurt Winsley
    Kurt Winsley Member Posts: 8 ✭✭

    when I copy/paste from WORD, my main points come across as Heading 1 and my Subpoints come across as Heading 2. My bulleted and numberered rows import as normal text.

    Hmm, interesting, I must have been using something other than Header 1 and Header 2 styles when I created my document originally. Just created one from scratch and it did hold the header styles at least when I brought it over. That's better than nothing, just need to learn to create my document in a different way I guess.

    Thanks for the illustration, David!

  • David Thomas
    David Thomas Member Posts: 3,272 ✭✭✭

    it did hold the header styles at least when I brought it over.

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