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Sean Boisen | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 28 2021 11:38 AM

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376. Scholasticism - https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25Scholasticism_Belief is not a "Belief".

"Belief" here needs to be understood very broadly, covering both religions, philosophies, theologies, particular religious practices, and even political views like Marxism (https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25Marxism_Belief). 

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Sean Boisen | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 28 2021 11:40 AM

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logos4:Factbook;ref=bio.BernardClairvaux Bernard of Clairvaux is not Greek Orthodox ... think Catholic please.

Actually, i think the best course might be to assign him to the Medieval Church (https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25MedievalEra_Denom). 

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 28 2021 2:48 PM

Sean Boisen:

SineNomine:

376. Scholasticism - https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25Scholasticism_Belief is not a "Belief".

"Belief" here needs to be understood very broadly, covering both religions, philosophies, theologies, particular religious practices, and even political views like Marxism (https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25Marxism_Belief). 

Scholasticism is not a religion, philosophy, theology, particular religious practice, or a political view. It is a method of teaching (or learning). Designating "Scholasticism" a "Belief" is like designating "Phonics" as a "Belief".

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 28 2021 3:21 PM

Sean Boisen:

MJ. Smith:

logos4:Factbook;ref=bio.BernardClairvaux Bernard of Clairvaux is not Greek Orthodox ... think Catholic please.

Actually, i think the best course might be to assign him to the Medieval Church (https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25MedievalEra_Denom). 

That article boasts two Lutherans in its list of four members right now...

What exactly is the intention of the 'denomination' "Medieval Church"? Is every Christian from some time period to be assigned to it? What about, e.g., the Cathari? Popes? St. Gregory Palamas? St. Thomas Aquinas?

I prefer the way that the Passage Guide handles denominational assignment for medieval Christian figures.

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 28 2021 3:33 PM

379. Orthodoxy - https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25Orthodoxy - According to the Catholic Encyclopedia Key Article and the dictionary entries I have, this article is about "orthodoxy". According to the "Books in Your Library", this article is about "Eastern Orthodoxy" (e.g., Interpreting the Bible the Orthodox Way, Orthodoxy and Catholicism: What are the Differences?).

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Sean Boisen | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 28 2021 4:21 PM

SineNomine:

Sean Boisen:

SineNomine:

376. Scholasticism - https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25Scholasticism_Belief is not a "Belief".

"Belief" here needs to be understood very broadly, covering both religions, philosophies, theologies, particular religious practices, and even political views like Marxism (https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25Marxism_Belief). 

Scholasticism is not a religion, philosophy, theology, particular religious practice, or a political view. It is a method of teaching (or learning). Designating "Scholasticism" a "Belief" is like designating "Phonics" as a "Belief".

Ok. We can drop Belief and leave it unlabeled (beyond Concept): we don't really have a better 'kind' label. 

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Sean Boisen | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 28 2021 4:35 PM

SineNomine:

Sean Boisen:

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Actually, i think the best course might be to assign him to the Medieval Church (https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25MedievalEra_Denom). 

That article boasts two Lutherans in its list of four members right now...

What exactly is the intention of the 'denomination' "Medieval Church"? Is every Christian from some time period to be assigned to it? What about, e.g., the Cathari? Popes? St. Gregory Palamas? St. Thomas Aquinas?

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'denomination' is something of a misnomer here (internally we call them "era groups"): we're trying to provide some useful way to group authors together, consistent with modern denominational groupings, even though "denomination" in the modern sense doesn't really apply prior to the Protestant reformation.

We're only categorizing authors by denomination (not all individuals), and we still have lots of data cleanup to do. Would you say it's wrong to categorize Aquinas as part of the Medieval Church? 

SineNomine:

I prefer the way that the Passage Guide handles denominational assignment for medieval Christian figures.

I believe it's actually the same data. You can see in this screenshot authors from the "Patristic" era (which is likewise not a denomination). 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 30 2021 1:10 AM

Unitas Fratum is a Concept record. This is the official name of the Moravian Church/denomination

The Moravian Church is a denomination ... not a person as created for its role as "author"

Jan Huss needs an also known as Jan Hus as all the related events use the later spelling.

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Okay make up your mind. You say re: John Huss

Jan Hus is considered the first Church reformer,

And you title Jan Milíč

(Pre-Hussite Reformers)

so we have a category of reformers before the first reformer? My Catholic Aristotelian logic objects ...

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 30 2021 1:43 AM

The entry for Arcanum shows it as not in the library while Verbum has encyclicals back to 1740. It is [[Leo XIII, Arcanum >> https://ref.ly/logosres/papency1878?ref=PapalEncyclicals.Arcanum]] | The Papal Encyclicals: 1878–1903. Even if it requires user input, it is important to have the actual text of the encyclical attached to the Factbook record.

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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Justin Gatlin | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 30 2021 9:12 AM

The Key Article for "Book of Isaiah" is the entry on the Servant Songs, rather than the book of Isaiah as a whole. https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25BookOfIsaiah_Writing 

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Sean Boisen | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 30 2021 11:15 AM

MJ. Smith:

The entry for Arcanum shows it as not in the library while Verbum has encyclicals back to 1740. It is [[Leo XIII, Arcanum >> https://ref.ly/logosres/papency1878?ref=PapalEncyclicals.Arcanum]] | The Papal Encyclicals: 1878–1903. Even if it requires user input, it is important to have the actual text of the encyclical attached to the Factbook record.

There's a large set of writings where we have a Factbook page and the actual text is available in a Logos resource but we don't yet have the two connected. That's in our plans, but it will take some time to accomplish. 

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Sean Boisen | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 30 2021 11:27 AM

Justin Gatlin:

The Key Article for "Book of Isaiah" is the entry on the Servant Songs, rather than the book of Isaiah as a whole. https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25BookOfIsaiah_Writing 

Yes, we should have a Factbook page that is specific to the Servant Songs for this: we'll work on getting that fixed. 

(Based on the other links in the Dictionaries section, it looks like we linked multiple LBD articles to Book of Isaiah: when that happens, we don't have a way to indicate which is the primary article. We're working on removing these multiple link instances for this reason.)

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 1 2021 7:39 AM

Sean Boisen:

SineNomine:

Sean Boisen:

SineNomine:

376. Scholasticism - https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25Scholasticism_Belief is not a "Belief".

"Belief" here needs to be understood very broadly, covering both religions, philosophies, theologies, particular religious practices, and even political views like Marxism (https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25Marxism_Belief). 

Scholasticism is not a religion, philosophy, theology, particular religious practice, or a political view. It is a method of teaching (or learning). Designating "Scholasticism" a "Belief" is like designating "Phonics" as a "Belief".

Ok. We can drop Belief and leave it unlabeled (beyond Concept): we don't really have a better 'kind' label. 

That works from my perspective.

Sean Boisen:
We're only categorizing authors by denomination (not all individuals), and we still have lots of data cleanup to do. Would you say it's wrong to categorize Aquinas as part of the Medieval Church? 

I would say that it might be wrong to do so. Is every Christian from some time period to be assigned to it? What about, e.g., the Cathari? Depending on what is meant by "Medieval Church", it may be inappropriate to have such a construct.

Sean Boisen:

SineNomine:

I prefer the way that the Passage Guide handles denominational assignment for medieval Christian figures.

I believe it's actually the same data.

The PG classifies Aquinas as Catholic (likewise Nicholas of Lyra and Peter Lombard), and there is no "Medieval Church" denomination in the PG data whatsoever, as far as I can tell.

Sean Boisen:
You can see in this screenshot authors from the "Patristic" era (which is likewise not a denomination). 

The Patristic situation is a meaningful different case, because the Fathers of the Church (and their congregants/followers/affiliates) were nearly all in communion with each other most of the time. That progressively ceases to be the norm after the Patristic era. Consider Aquinas, Palamas, and Jan Hus, all of whom you could define as "medieval".

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MJ. Smith:

The entry for Arcanum shows it as not in the library while Verbum has encyclicals back to 1740. It is [[Leo XIII, Arcanum >> https://ref.ly/logosres/papency1878?ref=PapalEncyclicals.Arcanum]] | The Papal Encyclicals: 1878–1903. Even if it requires user input, it is important to have the actual text of the encyclical attached to the Factbook record.

There's a large set of writings where we have a Factbook page and the actual text is available in a Logos resource but we don't yet have the two connected. That's in our plans, but it will take some time to accomplish. 

I'm very happy that this is planned.

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Justin Gatlin | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 3 2021 11:05 PM

Jehu (King) says that there is no key article, but the LBD does have an entry on Jehu that shows up under dictionaries. https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25Jehu.2_Person 

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 5 2021 1:39 PM

Justin Gatlin:

Jehu (King) says that there is no key article, but the LBD does have an entry on Jehu that shows up under dictionaries. https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25Jehu.2_Person 

That LBD article and a number of others on King Jehu have been erroneously applied to Jehu (Name) - https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25Jehu_Person

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Ken McGuire | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 13 2021 7:46 PM

Ran into an odd one today. It appears that "Joh Konrad Wilhelm Loehe (Gymnasium)" is the same as "William Loehe".

As much as I want to claim him for my Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod, he was a Bavarian Lutheran. He sent quite a few missionaries to LCMS, but actually started by working with the Joint Synod of Ohio before working with Missouri, and after working with Missouri, his followers set up the Iowa Synod. So label him Lutheran instead of LCMS.

"William" is the article that includes the works published in Logos. But the "Gymnasium" is the fuller article on him.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 19 2021 1:15 AM

Alfred Ernest Garvie has two records

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SineNomine | Forum Activity | Replied: Yesterday 6:43 PM

380. https://ref.ly/logos4/Factbook?ref=bk.%25IsaacPenington_Person is erroneously noted as being subject matter of LLS:RTRTTHMSMRTN.

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