Book Study or Factbook or what?
I know I can go in my library and pull up information say on the book of Galatians. I can get the date written, author, where written, etc and etc. This is not the quickest way, I'm a thinking.
Maybe I don't have my collections right? May I don't have things prioritized right?
But I thought some of the study tools would do all this but I don't know which study tool to use. I have tried most if not all and no luck on my part. So, my question is..... how do I find such information about a book of the Bible? And thank you for the help!
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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xnman said:
I know I can go in my library and pull up information say on the book of Galatians. I can get the date written, author, where written, etc and etc. This is not the quickest way, I'm a thinking.
Maybe I don't have my collections right? May I don't have things prioritized right?
But I thought some of the study tools would do all this but I don't know which study tool to use. I have tried most if not all and no luck on my part. So, my question is..... how do I find such information about a book of the Bible? And thank you for the help!
Start with the Factbook
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Or the new Bible Book Explorer
Go to tools and start typing it in the search box at the top. Open the tool, choose Author Paul from the sidebar, then click on Galatians and you will see this
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Though you'll want to be sure you pull up the entry for Epistle to the Galatians (Book, Epistle, Named Text), and not the people "Galatians".
Furthermore, it sounds as if the sore of information you are looking for would be most easily found under the Bible Book Guide tab.
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Sorry too much of a hurry. Choose Epistle to the Galatians from the Factbook dropdown menu. There is a section called Bible Book Guide.
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Ok... First, thank you for your help.... and I did run scans in Factbook using "Epistle to the Galatians", in fact I tried several different ways to search in Factbook.
Now let's carry this a bit deeper.... Let me illustrate...
I have in my quiver.... Unger's Bible Handbook and Halley's Bible Handbook. I can open them and instantly find the info of date, author etc. Factbook doesn't touch them. I know there are others in my "quiver" that have such info also. Again, Factbook doesn't touch them (that I can see).
I'm probably mistaken but, Factbook seems to be out there marching in "it's own little world" and not giving me info I'm looking for, to be easily and quickly found by me. And when it's "marching in it's own little world"... I still have to hunt for the info. Which leads me to think that I'm missing something....
Can I "tell Factbook" to bring in my books or set Factbook to look at books I suggest, in addition to books in "it's own little world"?
How does Factbook determine which books to search?
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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xnman said:
I have in my quiver.... Unger's Bible Handbook and Halley's Bible Handbook. I can open them and instantly find the info of date, author etc. Factbook doesn't touch them. I know there are others in my "quiver" that have such info also. Again, Factbook doesn't touch them (that I can see).
I don't have either of these resources so can't check specifically.
Are you saying they don't appear in the Dictionaries section of Factbook?
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Graham Griddle --- Yes, that's what I'm saying. What I'm trying to learn in Logos is how to research a book of the Bible and I picked on Galatians to do it.
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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Want the fastes Way?
1. Open your Bibel...it stands all there
2. OR type in Galater (sorry German) here
3. Some Bibles also have this
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by the Way if you have this Browser, or a Book with Indroductions put it in the Shortcut Bar so you open it in seconds FSB and Lexham Bible Dic shoot be there also
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I'm just going to toss out a different way of studying Galatians (or some other book of the Bible). It might be helpful for someone who's never tried it before.
"Open Passage Study Layout to Galatians"
Poof: my three highest priority Bibles for Galatians, my highest priority Commentary on Galatians, and the Information panel all open. On the left, I have my full Passage Guide, so I can see a (prioritized) list of Galatians commentaries in my library.
Clicking on the tiny arrow to the left of any commentary's thumbnail gives me an excerpt from the beginning of the commentary's text on Galatians, which for a number of my commentaries is the very beginning of the preface or introduction.
For example, from the Navarre Bible: New Testament commentary, I get:
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(The Navarre Bible: New Testament (Dublin; New York: Four Courts Press; Scepter Publishers, 2008), 687.)
The Letter to the Galatians is chronologically the first of St Paul’s “great” letters (Romans, 1 and 2 Corinthians, Galatians), but in manuscripts and printed editions of the New Testament it is usually placed fourth (after Romans and 1 and 2 Corinthians), simply because it is by far the shortest of them.
In terms of content, it obviously has a close connexion with the Letter to the Romans, which was written a short time afterwards. Galatians introduces the basic theme (justification by faith in Christ, not by works of...
I can do that for a number of commentaries until I get to at least one the first few lines of which are intriguing. Then I just click to open that commentary immediately to the correct spot.
PS: Sometimes people don't realize that you can open a Passage Study Layout to or run an independent Passage Guide on literally any passage in the Bible, whether or not the reference makes any kind of 'sense', e.g., "Exodus 2-Psalm 87:4" or "Chronicles 1:5-Mark". "Genesis-Revelation" will get you a complete list of your Bible commentaries in order of prioritization, but it will also potentially take a very long time, depending on the size of your library and your computer's specs.
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Found another Way... Create your Own Assistant
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Sascha John said:
Want the fastes Way?
1. Open your Bibel...it stands all there
True, but the Bible's all old-stuff, confusing and out of date. Better to read the modern 'about the Bible' (aka Factbook). Joking. I agree with you.
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xnman said:
Ok... First, thank you for your help.... and I did run scans in Factbook using "Epistle to the Galatians", in fact I tried several different ways to search in Factbook.
Now let's carry this a bit deeper.... Let me illustrate...
I have in my quiver.... Unger's Bible Handbook and Halley's Bible Handbook. I can open them and instantly find the info of date, author etc. Factbook doesn't touch them. I know there are others in my "quiver" that have such info also. Again, Factbook doesn't touch them (that I can see).
I'm probably mistaken but, Factbook seems to be out there marching in "it's own little world" and not giving me info I'm looking for, to be easily and quickly found by me. And when it's "marching in it's own little world"... I still have to hunt for the info. Which leads me to think that I'm missing something....
Can I "tell Factbook" to bring in my books or set Factbook to look at books I suggest, in addition to books in "it's own little world"?
How does Factbook determine which books to search?
I just checked the fact sheet from the Bible Book Explorer and I saw Unger's listed, you might try that route. There was an entire list of handbooks and commentaries listed. I did not see Hailey's but I think I own Hailey's in WS and not Logos. I will have to check. It may still not be what you want, but try it out and see.
Thanks, Carla
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xnman said:
I know I can go in my library and pull up information say on the book of Galatians. I can get the date written, author, where written, etc and etc. This is not the quickest way, I'm a thinking.
xnman said:how do I find such information about a book of the Bible? And thank you for the help!
Greetings xnman
I went to Topic Guide and typed in 'Galatians' and picked 'Epistle to the Galatians' from the drop down list.
I don't think I could have got there more efficiently.
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xnman said:
What I'm trying to learn in Logos is how to research a book of the Bible and I picked on Galatians to do it.
And starting with the Factbook is an ideal thing to do
When I do that I get quite a few dictionaries listed - do you have any of these? If so, do they show here?
But they will only appear if they have been given the appropriate tagging.
And, over time, Faithlife do try to add tagging to more resources.
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One thing you can do is create a collection of the resources you want to be included and add them to the Topic Guide so those resources show up every time you run it for a Bible Book. We can walk you through the steps if needed. You can add a custom collection to any guide, just not the factbook. So either the Passage, Exegetical, or Topic Guide.
There is usually more than one way to do something in Logos.
Carla
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Let's try one more time....
I try to Factbook for epistle to the (Ephesians, Galatians, Colossians, etc) and I still have to poke thru dictionaries, commentaries etc to try to find date book was written. And the problem is, with Factbook, I have less choices to look at.
So... I don't understand how to use Factbook to find when a book of the Bible written (date)? Don't get me wrong, I know how research it and find it, but I was hoping some guide or book would bring up things like that quickly and save me time.
It's probably me... sometimes I just stare at a wall tooo much.
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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Graham.... No. I don't get that picture...
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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xnman said:
Graham.... No. I don't get that picture...
Interesting - you should get a Dictionaries entry, it might contain different dictionaries to the one in my picture.
Can you post a screenshot (use the paperclip icon in the forum editor) showing what you do get?
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xnman said:
I was hoping some guide or book would bring up things like that quickly and save me time.
Bible book explorer
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xnman said:
Let's try one more time....
I try to Factbook for epistle to the (Ephesians, Galatians, Colossians, etc) and I still have to poke thru dictionaries, commentaries etc to try to find date book was written. And the problem is, with Factbook, I have less choices to look at.
So... I don't understand how to use Factbook to find when a book of the Bible written (date)? Don't get me wrong, I know how research it and find it, but I was hoping some guide or book would bring up things like that quickly and save me time.
It's probably me... sometimes I just stare at a wall tooo much.
I would try the Bible Book Explorer then. It shows the date from a bunch of resources right up front. See screen shot.
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sorry that I don't get your point. All answers you get will give you the Information in Seconds.
Just for you I go into the english, open the Factbook and...(10 Seconds) And I just have the Starter so you shoot have it to hope this helps you.
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I thank you guys/gals are so patient with me.
Yes.... I see the dictionaries now.... my apologies about not seeing it before. I had to scroll down.... which I should have noticed.
No... In the Starter Package.... I cannot find the Bible Explorer.
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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[Y] I was talking on the Bible Knowledge Commentary who has an Indroductan and is Part of Starter. You can find many free resources include the Lexham Bible Dictonray and the Faith Life Study Bible where you also find many Information hope this helps...and I know this many times after hours of discussion "oh I have to scroll down" we all been there :-)
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xnman said:
Yes.... I see the dictionaries now.... my apologies about not seeing it before. I had to scroll down.... which I should have noticed.
That's good news
xnman said:No... In the Starter Package.... I cannot find the Bible Explorer.
Yes - it requires the Silver Upgrade Feature set or higher
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I agree with the original poster that it’s a reasonable expectation that if one enters a name of a book of the Bible in the Factbook that one might get at least the basic “facts” of the book at the top of the pane. Instead, what I got was pretty much useless “fluff” (see below, left). (Am I really wanting to know that some theologians give “props” to the book? It is, after all, you know… the word of God!) Logos might want to rethink their algorithm on this…
Having said that, it is pretty easy to find the information that the original poster was seeking. Just scroll down to Bible Book Guide and Dictionaries, and, presto, the information is there (see below, right). Easy peasy!
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Something seems to be assumed about the question that is not really a safe assumption. The idea of "the date a book was written" is problematic as the date of writing of many of the NT books (and all of the OT books) is not agreed upon by scholars...in fact, in some cases there is not even a consensus.
So the possible dates of authorship will vary (sometimes significantly) depending on the resources chosen and the approach by the author. Knowing this variation will probably save on some confusion when looking for the best/easiest way to find dates of authorship.
(For the nit-pickers, I'm not arguing there isn't a date of authorship or the date is not knowable, I'm pointing out what researching that date looks like in Logos 9 and thus trying to be helpful to the OP.)
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xnman said:
I know I can go in my library and pull up information say on the book of Galatians. I can get the date written, author, where written, etc and etc. This is not the quickest way, I'm a thinking.
Maybe I don't have my collections right? May I don't have things prioritized right?
But I thought some of the study tools would do all this but I don't know which study tool to use. I have tried most if not all and no luck on my part. So, my question is..... how do I find such information about a book of the Bible? And thank you for the help!
Summarizing the helpful information others have provided:
- For dates specifically, the Bible Books Explorer (new to Logos 9) gives a nice overview of the ranges, as others have pointed out.
- For other general overview information about Bible books, there's a special section in Factbook called Bible Book Guide. This links to resources in your library that discuss various issues like who wrote it, when, from where, to whom, etc. Read more about this in Bible Book Guide: Dataset Documentation. In particular, the Information section of that resource describes the various categories we've used in the Bible Book Guide content.
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Didn't realize the Bible Book Guide section has been there since Logos 6. Very useful, thank you!
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