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Darnell L. Hope Sr. | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Nov 11 2020 8:35 PM

In Logos, they have the Rod Mattoon collections. Why aren't they releasing it to those that have it from Wordsearch?

I purchase LifeGuide collections from Wordsearch, then added all books that I didn't have from Logos. I thought I had every book until I found nine total left. (4) in logos and (5) in Faithlife. I use these a lot and try to make sure I have the whole collection. However, if I purchase the rest of the nine books I will be paying too much. That's not good.

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Roy | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 11 2020 10:24 PM

Darnell L. Hope Sr.:
In Logos, they have the Rod Mattoon collections. Why aren't they releasing it to those that have it from Wordsearch?

Logos is still producing those. They are not actually for sale yet but can be "pre"-ordered.

IF you have them in WordSearch you should see the "You already own this product" message. When the resource is ready to be released it will automatically download to your library if you have Logos set up that way.

If you did not own it you have the opportunity to (in essence) pre-order it. When it is ready your c.card would be charged and the product downloaded to your library.

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Darnell L. Hope Sr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 12 2020 4:01 PM

Thank you for your response. But, I already knew I own Rod Mattoon Collection. What I was referring to was that if Logos already own them, Why not release them? I was going to purchase them in my Logos months ago before Wordsearch Bible came over. I don't think they were for pre-order at that time. The only difference at that time was Logos Treasure From Scriptures collection had a few books less than Wordsearch's collection.

However, I did say I have (2) questions. My 2nd question was I purchased LifeGuide collections from Wordsearch, then added all books that I didn't have from Logos. I thought I had every book until I found nine total left. (4) in logos and (5) in Faithlife. I use these a lot and try to make sure I have the whole collection. However, if I purchase the nine books, I will be paying almost $100.00 dollars for them. That's not good. 

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Roy | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 12 2020 7:09 PM

Sorry Darnell,

I guess you missed the point I was trying to make.

Mattoons Treasures have been in pre-pub since at least late 2012 see https://community.logos.com/forums/t/61205.aspx# 

They only moved into production after the WordSearch purchase by FaithLife. So there isn't anything to release yet. They are still being put together.

see https://community.logos.com/forums/t/193953.aspx?PageIndex=7# 

As for the LIfeGuide issue I did not respond because I wanted to look a little more.

Just before the WordSearch (W.S.) purchase W.S. released 4 new volumes to the LIfeGuide series. I had put them in my cart but held off to the end of the week when they came out so I could contact my salesman and have him put them through. I called him (got voice mail) aand left a message asking him to put them through. Guess what? That next day FaithLife announced the W.S. purchase. I missed my opportunity to pick up those 4 volumes for under $4.00 ( $3 something and change at my adjusted price).

So now I have to buy them at $5.00 bucks a pop. That's life for me,  my fault for not buying them at the first of the week.

I would guess that the 4 volumes you see in the Logos store are those just released volumes (but I am guessing here).

as for the 5 others in the Faithlife eBooks site. I see 5 also, BUT, they appear to me to be duplicates. That is, they already exist as Logos volumes by a slightly different title. The ones I did check appear to have the same ISBN and look to have the same content.

So before worrying about the FaithLife eBooks if I were you I would look a little closer to make sure that they are not dups for you also.

Note: I had purchased my LifeGuides through W.S.

I'll try to post the respective book links to those I "Think" are dupes after I get home (I'm at work right now).

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Roy | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 12 2020 10:00 PM

As promised here are the links to both the FaithLife eBooks and the Logos versions that I believe are duplicates.

Faithlife eBooks on top and
Logos links on the second line.

https://ebooks.faithlife.com/product/56526/listening-to-god 

https://www.logos.com/product/169117/listening-to-god-10-studies-for-individuals-or-groups 

https://ebooks.faithlife.com/product/49532/service-ministry-with-heart-and-hands 

https://www.logos.com/product/169149/service-ministry-with-heart-and-hands-10-studies-for-individuals-or-groups-with-notes-for-leaders 

https://ebooks.faithlife.com/product/54220/women-and-identity 

https://www.logos.com/product/169154/women-and-identity-9-studies-for-individuals-or-groups 

this logos volume (Above) does not state the LifeGuide connection on the product page but the ISBN’s are the same and the inside cover page states that the book IS a part of the LifeGuide Series. It is also bundled with two of the LifeGuide Bundles.

https://ebooks.faithlife.com/product/51902/busyness-finding-god-in-the-whirlwind 

https://www.logos.com/product/169071/busyness-finding-god-in-the-whirlwind-8-studies-for-individuals-or-groups-with-notes-for-leaders 

https://ebooks.faithlife.com/product/129311/songs-from-scripture 

https://www.logos.com/product/169146/songs-from-scripture-9-studies-for-individuals-or-groups 

Concerning the 4 newest volumes that WordSearch released just prior to the FaithLife buyout...

They are in pre-pub and listed as In Production or have a ship date displayed. The last one has already shipped.

https://www.logos.com/product/197514/prayer-and-listening (ships 11/13 tomorrow!)

https://www.logos.com/product/195984/images-of-christians-8-studies-for-individuals-or-groups (also ships 11/13!)

https://www.logos.com/product/197312/ethnic-identity-bringing-your-full-self-to-god 

https://www.logos.com/product/197182/anxiety-finding-comfort-and-reassurance-from-god (this one has already shipped on 10/21)

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Darnell L. Hope Sr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 13 2020 7:45 PM

Sorry, I'm responding late but, been time up a little. I do understand what you conveying to me. Also, I thank you for the information. But, I thought most times when you own something either Logos or, FaithLife would say, you already own that. But, can't expect that in all cases from the website. I did check my collection and you were right I do have some of the books. I did purchase  the pre-pub. However, like you I do not want to pay $5.00 a pop for each book. But, i do like to use its collection and do want to add to it. Big Smile

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