Now in Beta: Import Your Wordsearch Documents to Logos
We’ve laid the foundation for migrating your Wordsearch files to Logos, and we would love to have your feedback. This is in beta, which means that it mostly works, but we need your help identifying any bugs with the way your documents appear in Logos.
FAQ
How will my Wordsearch data look in Logos?
Notes and Highlights
Bible notes, personal notes, NoteStacks, and highlights will all be imported to Logos's Notes tool, each in a respectively titled notebook (e.g., "WS Personal Notes"). Bible reference anchors and highlight text positions will be retained. Basic text formatting will be retained (bold, italic, underline, font size, etc.); some font faces, colors, and other formatting may be lost where they can't be matched to styles in Logos.
Favorites and Bookmarks
Your Wordsearch Favorites will appear in in Logos’s Favorites tool, in a folder titled “WS Favorites.”
Collections
You’ll find your book collections in the Collections tool, and listed in the left sidebar of the Library. Each migrated collection title is prefixed with “WS.”
Verse Lists
(Update - - As of March 25, this is now available)
Wordsearch’s Verse Lists have the ability to annotate verses, which doesn’t yet exist in Logos. We hope to add this feature in Logos Passage Lists in the future. In the meantime, we have imported Verse Lists as Passage Lists; and where a Verse List item includes annotations, it will also be imported to Logos as a note anchored to the verse. Now that the work has been completed, you do not need to re-upload your backup in order to see this addition.
To be clear, any notes within Wordsearch’s Verse Lists area are not going to be imported. Also, Logos will not preserve the Bible version used by each verse if multiple Bible versions are used in a single verse list.
User Books, Sermons and Illustrations, and other Wordsearch document types
We are still deciding how to handle these document types. Your feedback on which document types are the most important for us to focus next is appreciated.
Will my files be safe?
When you upload your Wordsearch data, we’ll store the original data in your Faithlife account, and convert each kind of document over to the Logos equivalent. As we implement migration for more types of content (Collections, Verse Lists, etc.), your data will automatically begin to show up in Logos without you having to upload it again.
What if I’m still creating new content in Wordsearch? Can I add more to Logos later?
You can always add a newer backup. New notes and other data will be added to what has already been imported to Logos; items that have been edited or deleted in Wordsearch will be updated in Logos.
How to migrate your Wordsearch documents to Logos
Create a backup of your Wordsearch documents
Backup your Wordsearch data under "Options > Backup..." and save the file to your computer.
On the following screen, select all of the options except for “Unlock Information.”
You can find more detailed backup instructions at: https://office.wordsearchbible.com/help/12/en/index.html?backup.htm
Upload your backup file to the beta import site
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Confirm that you are signed into your Faithlife account with the same email address you use for Logos.
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Click “Choose File” to open the file browser.
Navigate to your Wordsearch backup file (this is typically in the folder Documents\WORDsearch Backups\WORDsearch 12).
Select the newest zipfile (usually with a filename like ws12b_03092021-1.zip), and click Open. -
Click the Upload button.
Wait for your Wordsearch data to import
After the upload completes, work will begin on the server to migrate your data over to Logos.
If you have a lot of Wordsearch data, this may take a long time. It won’t have any estimate of time remaining, but the time elapsed indicates that it is still actively working on it.
Importing Wordsearch data... (Started 1 second ago.) [Refresh]
Click refresh periodically until you see a success message like the one below. Your data will now automatically sync to the Logos apps.
Wordsearch data imported! (Finished 6 minutes ago.)
What to report:
We'd like your help identifying where we need to improve the importation process between Wordsearch and Logos documents.
Most importantly, please report if any of your data appears to be missing; we'll never lose your original Wordsearch data (we'll keep a copy saved with your account), but there may be some instances where it isn't properly mapped to its Logos counterpart, and doesn't show up in Logos. As we correct this mapping over time, your Wordsearch data will automatically update in Logos, without you having to do anything.
The most likely source of problems will be when we don’t have a 1-to-1 match between a Wordsearch book and the same book in Logos. Be on the lookout for problems with:
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Notes and highlights showing up in the wrong place.
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Favorites/bookmarks linking to the wrong article.
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Collections with incorrect or missing resources.
Of course, sometimes things just work. If you have a great experience with your data migration, we’d love to hear that too! Thank you for your feedback, for your patience, and for this opportunity to serve you in your Bible study.
Comments
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Austin Bush said:
What if I’m still creating new content in Wordsearch? Can I add more to Logos later?
You can always add a newer backup. New notes and other data will be added to what has already been imported to Logos; items that have been edited or deleted in Wordsearch will be updated in Logos.
What will happen to any such items that have also been edited/deleted in Logos?
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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While admittedly, more internal testing needs to take place regarding this exact scenario, the intent of the process is to leave the edited/deleted previously-migrated Logos item(s) alone and re-migrate the edited Wordsearch item to a new Logos item.
Thank you for your willingness to help with this process.
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I am getting this error when going to the import site address listed.
This page isn’t working
wordsearchapi.faithlife.com redirected you too many times.
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Nevermind, I was able to get to it. But just in case anyone else has this same problem, I was able to access by opening the address in an incognito window.
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Joey Midgett said:
Nevermind, I was able to get to it. But just in case anyone else has this same problem, I was able to access by opening the address in an incognito window.
Could you please expand on your solution? I am having the same difficulty. Thank you!
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Never mind...I found another way to make it happen. Thanks for suggesting an alternate.
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I have tried the link to upload my WordSearch documents in Google Chrome and in Microsoft Edge. I have cleared all data (browsing, cookies, cache, etc) and I keep getting the following:
This page isn't working
wordsearchapi.faithlife.com redirected you too many times
Try clearing your cookies
ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS
Any suggestions?
Thanks, Robert
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If you are experiencing any issues with the original link, please use the one below...
https://wordsearchapi.faithlife.com/v1/home?ssi=0
Thanks again for everyone's help and please feel free to share any additional feedback about the process that you've found so far.
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That worked. Thanx
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OK. Now I have my WS notes running side by side to Logos notes.
Is there a way yet or will there be a way to merge the WS notes into the Logos notes as one?
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Robert,
Could you please provide a bit more detail as to what you are hoping for? I definitely want to discuss it with our development team but want to make sure I'm communicating your hopes for the feature properly.
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I have created a notebook for each book of the Bible. I then click on "New Note" and insert my note into that verse.
Since I have now imported all my WordSearch notes, I now have a notebook called WS Default. The two notebooks run side by side in two separate tabs.
However, comma, dramatic pause... I would prefer that all my notes would be rolled into one sorted by book, chapter and verse.
Thanks for listening, Robert
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NoteStacks are more similar to "Clippings" in Logos.
Dr. Nathan Parker
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Let me re-phrase that.
I have a Logos notebook for each Book of the Bible. I want to migrate all of my WordSearch notes (WS Default) into my Logos notebooks so that all my notes (Logos and WordSearch) are in their appropriate Logos notebooks.
i.e. all WordSearch Genesis notes are in Logos Genesis notebook; all WordSearch Exodus notes are in Logos Exodus notebook...and so on for all 66 books.
So I'm not having to switch back and forth between Logos and WS default notebooks. or am I asking too much?
By the way, congratulations to whoever got the Dake Annotated Reference Bible working. It no longer locks up Logos. Really appreciate that!
Robert
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Robert Daniel said:
I have a Logos notebook for each Book of the Bible. I want to migrate all of my WordSearch notes (WS Default) into my Logos notebooks so that all my notes (Logos and WordSearch) are in their appropriate Logos notebooks.
i.e. all WordSearch Genesis notes are in Logos Genesis notebook; all WordSearch Exodus notes are in Logos Exodus notebook...and so on for all 66 books.
So I'm not having to switch back and forth between Logos and WS default notebooks. or am I asking too much?
If I understand you correctly, you're looking for the ability to simultaneously move a large number of notes from one Logos notebook to another. I don't use Notes, so I don't know whether that already exists or how it might be done, but it seems a reasonable thing to attempt.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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You can try this (I did a quick test and this worked for me but I would suggest that you test it with just 2 or 3 notes to start with!)
1) Open the Notes Tool
2) Locate the (Group) notes you want to move.
3) click on the 1st note.
4) Scroll down to the last note you want to move, Press and Hold the Shift key, and click on the last note in the group to be moved.
To the right you should see a drop-down menu that displays the current Notebook. Click on the drop-down arrow and choose the Desired/new notebook. Further to the right you will see a button labeled "Apply Changes". Click Apply Changes.
This "Should" move your notes in a group. If trying this a couple times on just a few notes produces the desired result, go to town and start moving them. I would suggest moving in small lots just to be safe.
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UPDATE…
In the original post, we mentioned that it was coming next, but we have now implemented Wordsearch’s Verse Lists. This will import all of the headings and verses into a corresponding Logos Passage List. The Bible selected in the Logos Passage List is the Bible used by the first verse of the Wordsearch Verse List.
To be clear, any notes within Wordsearch’s Verse Lists area are not going to be imported. Also, Logos will not preserve the Bible version used by each verse if multiple Bible versions are used in a single verse list.
Also, if you have previously run your backup, you will not need to re-upload the same backup in order to see this new addition.
Thank you for everyone’s participation and patience throughout this process. Continue to provide feedback that you have experienced as we are anxious to hear more regarding this process. Whether it’s been positive or not, either way, we would greatly value the input.
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Thank you for fixing the notes. I was doing it by copy and paste, and it was taking me forever. The only thing is my font was increased, but I can take care of that. Now I can study without going back and forth from Logos to Wordsearch.
Thanks again
Danny
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Created ZIP file for WS12. Attempted to UPLOAD to both websites provided. Received the following message from each site "The page was not displayed because the request entity is too large." ZIP file is 237k.
Please advise.
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Thanks for the report! We should be able to handle 237 KB just fine, but perhaps it is actually 237 MB? We will work on adding support for larger zip files.
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Yup.
Was too quick on the draw last nite. It is 237,xxx KB, that do be 237 MB.
Maybe I can parse it down and do it in chunks... What is the current maximum file size?
How will you alert y'all alert former WS12 users when larger zip file capability exists?
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Am I out of sync here (mixing apples and oranges)? Are we talking notes etc. or docs?
I uploaded my WordSearch backup file a couple of weeks ago and imported the notes by book, chapter and verse. I'm in the process of tagging those as we speak.
I have been waiting to import the stand alone full documents saved in WordSearch. As I recall, it seems like they were of the ".doc" variety but at any rate, most were from one to several pages of text (sermons, teachings etc.).
I looked in Tools/Favorites but lost the trail
Robert
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Eugene Nowak said:
Maybe I can parse it down and do it in chunks
The average size of a Wordsearch 12 backup is about 4MB, so yours is significantly larger.
By default, Wordsearch just zips up everything in "Documents\WORDsearch" (which is where it creates its files by default). If you've placed additional large files in that folder, you may wish to move them to another "Documents" folder before performing your Wordsearch 12 backup.
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I've got a few questions before I try to jump start the process by moving files out of the Wordsearch folder.
Not that long ago I used QuickVerse and then in 2019 migrated to Wordsearch. Wordsearch pretty much used the same PC folder structure as QuickVerse. So a lot of the stuff that is now in my Wordsearch folder came across when I migrated to WS12. One of the file formats QV10/WS12 did not like was MS WORD documents. So anytime I wanted something I created in a Word document to appear in QV/WS12 I'd have to make a pdf and place it in the PC folder for QV/WS12 to see it. So, I'm thinking that Logos isn't going to like seeing pdf's in that folder, is that correct? I currently bring pdf's into Logos with them placed in a shortcut folder. I can't interact with them in Logos, they are just hyperlinks back to the file located within my PC directory structure. So that is one type of file in my PC Wordsearch folder.
I do also have some videos that are in the PC Wordsearch folder, I'm guessing Logos migration conversion won't like those either.
The next type of file in the Wordsearch documents folder are those that were generated internal to either QV or WS12 Word Processor. The Word Processor would generate either 2 or 3 separate files for each document: html, idx & xrf extensions. I'd assume the Logos conversion process would handle these. Correct?
The are also files that were generated internal to QV & WS12 and these are identified buy the extension of .userbook. Will Logos be able to convert these userbooks?
Finally, QV/WS12 allowed a directory structure below the Wordsearch folder to aid in organizing all the files. It was simple in QV/WS12 as just building the folder structure beneath the Wordsearch folder, adding files that met their criteria (non-MS Word), then each time with QV or WS12 was opened the program would read all the information in the Wordsearch folder and make it available to the user. Logos doesn't work this way, so how will Logos handle all the hierarchy within the Wordsearch folder? Or does that structure have to be removed and all the files just placed in the Wordsearch folder for the WS->Logos conversion process to work?
Please advise.
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Wow, better than I expected. Doesn't seem like I am missing anything, I'll let you know. Any easy way to pull the categories from my WS favorites to the root Favorite's menu? Hey, if not, no worries! Thanks!!!
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Eugene Nowak said:
I do also have some videos that are in the PC Wordsearch folder, I'm guessing Logos migration conversion won't like those either.
I'm guessing they may constitute a large part of that 237 MB, too.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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If I take out the video files, still above 40 MB. If I pull everything over 1 MB file size or larger, still have about 10 MB remaining in the file structure. Accumulation over the years, somewhere around 100 files remaining that were registered in QV/WS12.
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Eugene Nowak said:
html, idx & xrf extensions. I'd assume the Logos conversion process would handle these. Correct?
Those are not being imported at this time. The .idx and .xrf files were index files used internally by Wordsearch and are of no use outside the program. The .html files were, as you say, created by the internal WS Word Processor. Logos does not have an internal word processor, but you can open these up in any app that can handle html files. I converted all mine to Word .docx files for improved functionality. Some Logos packages have a tool for importing .docx documents as user-created "books", but that's mostly useful for work that is finished, so you can search against it later in Logos, etc.
Regarding everything else in your Wordsearch "MyDocuments" folder, as of right now, the only file types in there being imported into Logos are the Verse Lists (.vrs files). You could take pretty much everything else out temporarily to create a nice small backup zip file for the migration. The userbook files could possibly be imported to new user-data types in the future, as could the html files potentially, so it might be worth including them in the upload now just in case they can be leveraged later on, but they're not a factor right now, and I seriously doubt the Word docs or PDFs would ever be importable via this kind of process.
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Where can I find open-source software to batch convert html to docx?
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I have uploaded my WordSearch backup file to Logos and imported the notes for each book, chapter and verse. I'm tagging now.
Meanwhile, how do I batch convert the html docs into docx and Logos? or is that coming later?
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The only problem I had was it increased the point of my font. Good job.
Danny[:D]
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John W Gillis said:
Regarding everything else in your Wordsearch "MyDocuments" folder, as of right now, the only file types in there being imported into Logos are the Verse Lists (.vrs files). You could take pretty much everything else out temporarily to create a nice small backup zip file for the migration.
No, don't do that.
I was only recommending removing non-Wordsearch files (such as large videos).
As per the OP:
Austin Bush said:When you upload your Wordsearch data, we’ll store the original data in your Faithlife account, and convert each kind of document over to the Logos equivalent. As we implement migration for more types of content (Collections, Verse Lists, etc.), your data will automatically begin to show up in Logos without you having to upload it again.
If you leave all Wordsearch documents in the archive that you upload, they'll be processed once we can handle them, without your having to upload the file again.
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Eugene Nowak said:
How will you alert y'all alert former WS12 users when larger zip file capability exists?
Larger zip files are now supported.
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Peter Santaniello said:
Any easy way to pull the categories from my WS favorites to the root Favorite's menu?
Unfortunately I think the only way is to drag them one at a time.
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Danny Jenkins said:
The only problem I had was it increased the point of my font. Good job.
Thanks! How much bigger? If this is a universal problem we might be able to improve it.
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Just two points
Danny
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Austin, I am a long time Wordsearch user with a large accumulation of personal data. I ran the import routine described above and successfully migrated my personal notes into Logos 9. As you noted, the Sermons and Illustrations utility is still in development and I anxiously await the ability to migrate the 700 sermons I have in Wordsearch. Any idea for timing?
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Some initial code has been written to allow the sermons/illustrations from Wordsearch to come over to Logos, but the work has not been finalized yet as there are still some key decisions to be made about the best way to properly import them. This discussion has resurfaced though this week so hopefully we can make some steps forward in this process in the near future.
Thank you for your note and I will be sure to report back once there is more information available.
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I did a backup of my Documents and uploaded but my Wordsearch documents are still not showing in Logos.
Is this still being worked on or did I miss something?
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Richard P. South said:
I did a backup of my Documents and uploaded but my Wordsearch documents are still not showing in Logos.
Is this still being worked on or did I miss something?
Wordsearch Documents (HTML files) are not currently imported. There is some related discussion above. As with Sermons and Illustrations, I don't think we've made a final decision on how that will work.
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I have again tried a transfer of documents into logos. There are some of my personal notes missing. With in excess of 3,500 notes there is no way of knowing how many, but I have found some that are missing.
Only 13 out of 70 documents have uploaded.
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The IVS tab in Wordsearch is particularly helpful. I normally prepare a passage study by writing a verse-by-verse commentary, then using the IVS tab to combine all the individual verse notes into one. I have not found anything comparable to this in Logos. Is there any way of merging a number of consecutive notes into one note in another notebook?
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Alex Holden said:I have found some that are missing.
Sorry to hear this! If you have one or more specific examples, I can dig in and try to figure out why they are missing.
Alex Holden said:Only 13 out of 70 documents have uploaded.
I'm not sure what documents you are referring to.
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Missing notes: In my WS Sermons Notebook I have 7 Notes on the book of Revelation. Only 6 have transferred. No. 4 is missing.
Documents: In Wordsearch there is a documents folder which was included in my backup. The folder contained about 70 documents, but there are only 13 of the in the documents tab in Logos.
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Actually, I have just realised that the documents in the document list in Logos are verse lists, so none of my documents have transferred, unless they are included in my notes in which case I don't know how to find them.
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Alex Holden said:
Missing notes: In my WS Sermons Notebook I have 7 Notes on the book of Revelation. Only 6 have transferred. No. 4 is missing.
It looks like the missing note was moved to the WS Personal notebook after it was imported.
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Alex Holden said:
none of my documents have transferred, unless they are included in my notes in which case I don't know how to find them.
HTML documents are not currently imported. According to the original post: We are still deciding how to handle these document types. Your feedback on which document types are the most important for us to focus next is appreciated.
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Not sure how many types of documents there are, but the ones I would like are those created using the Wordsearch word processor.
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So my many years of word processor documents will not be transferable into Logos as is? Is there any other option that might be used? I have years of sermons sorted by book and liturgical year that it seems I will now be losing...OUCH!
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I agree, I'm also waiting for Wordsearch documents to be converted as well. I used Wordsearch documents for all of my lesson notes, so having this in Logos would be wonderful. Thank you!
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