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On OR, AND, INTERSECTS, ANDEQUALS

From Phil Gons (Faithlife):[1] 

You might find my replies . . . helpful, along with these diagrams:

P23-1 PG Search 1
P23-2 PG Scale
P23-3 PG Venn
P23-4 PG Chart

From Andrew Batishko (Faithlife):[2] 

INTERSECTS works by finding results for the left term and the right term, and then returns verses that contain both terms where those terms overlap.

NOT INTERSECTS works by finding results for the left term and the right term, and then returns verses that contain both terms where those terms do not overlap.

EQUALS works by returning the verses where a word matches the left and the right term. This combines the two terms into a single term.

NOTEQUALS works by returning the verses where a word matches the left but not the right term. This combines the two terms into a single term.

Because the EQUALS and NOTEQUALS operators combine their terms into a single term, you only get two different colors of result highlighting in your NOTEQUALS search compared to three with the NOT INTERSECTS search.

Map References in Anchor Bible Dictionary

From Dean J. Ferguson:[3] 

Reading through the Anchor Bible Dictionary and continually come across a reference to "M.R.: with six digits, i.e.

 ... located in the NE Shephelah (M.R. 147128) in the Valley of Sorek and which ..."

Fredric Brandfon, “Beth-Shemesh (Place),” ed. David Noel Freedman, The Anchor Yale Bible Dictionary (New York: Doubleday, 1992), 696.

It is safe to assume that M.R. refers to a map reference.  My question is which map system is being used?  I have missed any explanation in the Dictionary that offers an explanation.  Does anyone have a clue or guidance to point me in the direction to the system that is being referenced? 

Response from Dale E Heath: 

Response from Lee: 

from Wikipedia:[4] 

A grid reference system, also known as grid reference or grid system, is a geographic coordinate system that defines locations in maps using Cartesian coordinates based on a particular map projection. Grid lines on maps illustrate the underlying coordinate system. Such coordinate lines are numbered to provide a unique reference to each location on the map. Grid coordinates are normally eastings and northings.

Where are alternative morphologies visible?

From Bradley Grainger (Faithlife)[5] 

Yes, the Exegetical Guide does this. In the Word By Word section, hover over ֫± to see the alternatives.

P23-5 BG Alternate Morphology

The options shown will depend on the morphologically-analysed resources in your Library.

It's not necessary to change the resource in the selector to see alternative morphologies, but you do have to own different morphologically-analysed Greek NTs. Do you have the Analytical Greek NT (Friberg) or a Swanson GNT?

No, my statement was inaccurate.

It's not necessary to change the resource when it's a member of set of resources for which the Corresponding Words visual filter works. Since Corresponding Words doesn't work between NRSV and Elzevir (because the latter is not "word numbered"), then Elsevir's morphology isn't integrated into the EG when NRSV is selected. (But because Corresponding Words does work between NRSV, ESV, SBLGNT, AGNT, etc. then their morphologies are automatically included and you won't get different results (for the morphological analysis part of EG Word By Word) by choosing different resources. 

Indices in Searches

From Eric Weiss:Devil 

Did Logos/Verbum fail to include the Index in areas able to be searched in this resource or other resources?

Catholic Church, Catechism of the Catholic Church, 2nd Ed. (Washington, DC: United States Catholic Conference, 2000). 

Response from Donald Antenen (Faithlife):

Indices are always non-indexed. This is true for all resources. So things in the index won't show up in searches.

The main reason for this is to avoid all the Bible references in indices from showing up in searches for those verses.

Commentary types

From Pater Noster:[7] 

The commentary section of the passage guide allows for grouping by Type. I was watching a Morris Proctor video on this, he had a chart (below) that was developed early, pre Logos 9 release; I know it may be missing some types that I see (like Exegetical). I am wondering if there is any explanation, however brief, of these Types? I figure FL may have some documentation since they needed to make at least consistent decisions on how to group commentaries. Or is there anything in the Wiki? I couldn't find anything. Some of these Types I have no idea what they are, others I am not sure if FL thinks they are what I think they are. This all affects how to best interpret what the commentary says if I am using it. Thanks!

P23-6 MP Commentaries

Current application:

The Commentary Guide when sorted by Type offers:

P23-7 Verbum Type

Relevant resource types:

  • Bible apparatus
  • Bible commentary
  • Bible notes
  • Bible study
  • Study Bible

Note those in italics are not included in the Commentary Guide.

Helpful Text Critical Abbreviations and Masorah Parva Symbols

From Alexander C. StewartMusic

Andrew, I'm sure you are done with that part of Jonah by now, but I've developed a free guide to decoding most of the BHS abbreviations. I've called it "Helpful Text Critical Abbreviations and Masorah Parva Symbols for BHS (Hebrew Bible)". If you'd like a copy from my Dropbox folder, here it is: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jh1wwacogel6d2f/Helpful%20Text%20Critical%20Abbreviations%20and%20Masorah%20Parva%20Symbols%20for%20BHS%20%28Hebrew%20Bible%29.pdf?dl=0.Should help with your apparatus questions.

There is also the book by Brotzman (Old Testament Textual Criticism, 1994 or 2016 edition with Tully) that has many of the abbreviations and walks through all textual criticism of the book of Ruth in BHS, if you want to see it in action. Then there is the Jonah Handbook by W. Dennis Tucker (Baylor, 2006) that should help with Jonah in BHS. Or Robert Chisholm (A Workbook for Intermediate Hebrew), which can help more with parsing and syntax practice of Jonah and Ruth alike. 



[1] Search Help: Why doesn't <Person Paul> INTERSECTS <Place Jerusalem> work? - Faithlife Forums (logos.com) accessed 5/29/2021 5:00 PM

[2] ATTN: Bradley: Can you help me understand why NOT INTERSECTS doesn't work in one case? - Faithlife Forums (logos.com) accessed 5/29/2021 5:20 PM

[3] Abbreviations in Anchor Bible Dictionary - Faithlife Forums (logos.com) accessed 5/29/2021 5:29 PM

[4] Grid reference system - Wikipedia accessed 5/29/2021 5:37 PM

[5] Ambiguity in Bible morphology - How to see alternatives? - Faithlife Forums (logos.com) accessed 5/29/2021 5:51 PM

Devil CCC doesn't search Index - Faithlife Forums (logos.com) accessed 5/29/2021 6:03 PM

[7] Commentary Types - Faithlife Forums (logos.com) accessed 5/29/2021 6:08 PM

Music Decoding the BHS Apparatus - Faithlife Forums (logos.com) accessed 5/29/2021 7:09 PM

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