The Trifold Vertical and Horizontal Layouts not working well

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J. Gary Ellison | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2021 9:05 PM

I currently have 11 resources loaded. Clicking any of the first four layouts produces the desired effect. Choosing the trifold horizontal or vertical layouts scatters the 11 resources in 11 blocks across the computer screen. The first four layouts are able to organize the resources according to the patterns, but the last two do not. 

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Is this a bug or do I need to reset something?

Thanks for your help.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 31 2021 10:32 PM

Probably depends on your intitial layout, so  a screenshot would help.

I was able to get a 4 rows by 3 cols and 4 cols x 3 rows respectively for 12 tabs. It didn't change the small column used for tools like Copy Bible Verses.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 1 2021 1:16 AM

J. Gary Ellison:
Is this a bug or do I need to reset something?

Neither - the two icons you are calling "trifold" are actually simply columnar or horizontal - I can't find Bradley's post on the topic unfortunately.

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J. Gary Ellison | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 6 2021 3:12 AM

Yes, Dave, that is what is happening. When I select the last two options (three rows or three columns), my 12 resources are scattered in rows and columns of 3x4 or 4x3. This is very different from the way the first four options function. 

The first four functions use TABS to organize the resources WITHIN 1, 2, 3, or 4 blocks. Here two columns with the resources arranged in tabs:

Screen Shot 2021-08-06 At 8.51.10 PM

Here are three blocks:

Screen Shot 2021-08-06 At 8.54.44 PM

And here are four blocks. All the resources are nicely arranged in tabs and four manageable blocks are on the screen.
Screen Shot 2021-08-06 At 8.55.10 PM

But the choice of three rows or three columns presents not three rows or columns, but tiled resources that are unreadable in my estimation:

Screen Shot 2021-08-06 At 8.55.29 PM

I do not think the last two options should function differently from the first four. That's my opinion. 

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 6 2021 6:03 AM

J. Gary Ellison:
I do not think the last two options should function differently from the first four. That's my opinion. 

That's interesting. 1st, I'm on Windows Logos7, and the behavior is the same. Not a recent mis-step. But 2nd, I tried Dave's point (depends on initial layout):

- The above pattern is the same in L7 (first 4 choices <> choices 5 & 6).

- The layout buttons only impact the first window (I use 5). The remaining 4 windows remain untouched.

- The fill-out logic observes Logos rules (utility panels on the left, resources on the right). But when it gets to the horizontal or vertical choices, it's opposite by direction. Utilities fill out horizontally, in the vertical layout, and vertical in the horizontal layout. Then, mix and match the 2nd tabs.

It's not easy to see what they were thinking. Obviously, the Mac version dutifully followed the Logos Windows coding guidance.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 6 2021 11:51 AM

J. Gary Ellison:
I do not think the last two options should function differently from the first four. That's my opinion. 

I understand your point but how would you include the options that the final two icons cover? There are some of us who want that option. I suspect that a clearer differentiation is what would resolve the issue. At the moment, only the mouse over pop-up indicates that they are vertical/horizontal rather than a fixed number of panes.

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J. Gary Ellison | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 7 2021 4:08 AM

I can see that three horizontal rows would not be very helpful as we probably would not want to read such long lines of text.

I confess that as a newbie I do not understand the logic of the final two options, nor did I realize that utility panels were populated on the left and resources on the right. 

Thank you all for your responses.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 7 2021 12:55 PM

J. Gary Ellison:
I can see that three horizontal rows would not be very helpful as we probably would not want to read such long lines of text.

Ah, I understand your concern; however, I rarely use more than 1/2 of my laptop's screen for Verbum/Logos which keeps the lines reasonable. Where I do use very long horizontal lines is for the clause visualization resources which almost require a full horizontal screen. One thing that you will learn from the forums, is that there are many features one never uses and doesn't see the need for that are critical to others' use of the tool. The use cases are very diverse.

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