Hello i'm not so educated and just wondering

About which book will help me know more about Gospel, Grace, Mercy -trust-faith-belief-. I heard the gospel was born again, but never understood it that well. and just trying to understand god so i can tell myself the gospel everyday and have a better intimacy with the lord. I've been a christian for 1 year and 4 months, but have been slowly but surly broken off away from the world leading up to this year and found logos bible software, But tried the free options, but couldn't really follow or understand them well. Thank you. I just need someone mature in the faith that would help me understand better. thank you brothers and sisters.

Logos 7 Anglican Starter Legacy Library

would help me understand god better, and the gospel such as Grace things like -trust-faith-belief-

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Ken McGuire

Welcome to the Logos Bible software and the forums to support it. Many of us have found Logos to be quite helpful for much of what you ask.

But many of us have found many different answers to that, and so specific answers would be against the forum guidelines. So I will only say that regular reading the Bible is a quite useful discipline, and in my opinion, this is best done as part of a worshipping community.

If you have any technical questions about the software, many will help you here. And if you need a bit of information about the various resources, you may find help here. But all you ask pushes what we can say while welcoming all the diverse users here.

GaoLu

Ken has good thoughts: read your Bible and participate in a worship community.

Favorites will vary, but I suggest starting with these books:

1. John

2. Romans

3. Psalms

josiah grace

I was just trying to find some way to understand simply if there is a book in the collection i bought would help answer most of my questions, that explains gods attributes not like a w towzer - knowledge of the holy even though i did read some its over my head but i know it probably is cherished by many. I just like to learn more about gods grace, and mercy, redemption, justification. Something that help a simple man like myself. I've been alone for the most part and don't have that church family to go to. i thank you gaolu, I wlll consider that most heartedly. I felt being led to reading romans, and im in the gospels right now trying to understand that so hopefully some commentaries i got by t w wright will help. I do like word for word, verse for verse. like

Commentary Critical & Explanatory on the Whole Bible Kindle Edition

by Robert Jamieson (Author), A.R. Fausset (Author), David Brown

But something that could be more simplified for me.

Rosie Perera

The Bible is definitely the place to start reading. And reading it in a community of fellow believers/seekers/worshipers is good advice.

Other good books for beginner Christians are:

Basic Christianity by John Stott

Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis

Also pray, in whatever way you know how at this point in your journey. Prayer in its simplest understanding is spending time with the Lord, and that is how you grow in intimacy with him.

danwdoo

This series of short, well-written books on important topics of the Christian faith would be worth taking a look at:

Crucial Questions Series (20 vols.) | Logos Bible Software

Hope this helps!

Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203193#Comment_1203193

As a new Christian, I accidentally discovered a fantastic series by Max Anders called the "What You Need to Know About..." series. I don't think it's in Logos, although some Max Anders resources, such as 30 Days to Understanding What Christians Believe | Logos Bible Software is and I can MOST HIGHLY RECOMMEND anything he does.

The "WYNTNA" series was fantastic - essentially it was a Systematic Theology for new Christians and covered all the main topics of what we believe: God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, the Bible, salvation, spiritual warfare, prophecy, defending the faith, the Church, and spiritual growth. It was awesome and helped me to get in to the Scriptures, which as others have said, is such an important factor in our growth as Christ followers.

Happy Easter and blessings on you as you grown in Him!

GaoLu

Logos 7 Anglican Starter Legacy Library

Your library already has some great resources.

1. Bible: ESV

2. Study: Consider the DIY Bible study course.

3. Commentary: New Testament / Old Testament for Everyone Series / Faithlife Bible Study Notes

4. Introduction: The Bible Guide

5. Theology: Concise Theology - Packer

6. Prayer: The Book of Common Prayer 1979

Your library is loaded with many great books!

Mike Binks

Josiah

You have been given good experiential advice above.

Mine would be to set aside a regular time for reading.

Find the 'New Testament for Everyone' series.

Start at the beginning of any Gospel in the series.

Each day read one section first read it in the English Standard Version

Then read Tom Wright's own translation. (He translates from ancient documents he does not paraphrase something existing)

Then read the devotional/explanation attached to that section.

Think and pray about what you have read until you start a new day and a new section.

Reid A Ferguson

Josiah, welcome to the family. You've already heard some great things but let me add a bit more. As some said, prayerful, consistent reading is the single most useful thing. The Bible Knowledge Commentary is a verse by verse commentary that is very easy reading. The Summarized Bible by Keith Brooks could be very useful as he does a very short and quick summary of each chapter of the Bible. Each would take only few mintues to read to help grasp each chapter quickly. For getting a full grasp of overall theology you can't do better than Octavius Boothe's Plain Theology for Plain People. He wrote it for slave preachers in the south who had no access to theological training. You are more advanced than that, but as someone who has taught theology - this is a dear favorite of mine. Very clear and solid. You won't regret it. Blessings: Reid

josiah grace

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203217#Comment_1203217

Hello mike, are those books i already have? or have to purchased?

josiah grace

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203219#Comment_1203219

Octavius Boothe's Plain Theology for Plain People i will read that, Idk much about the other books u're talking about, do i have them or do i have to purchase them through logos?

xnman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203231#Comment_1203231

Personally, I would recommend (as others have) reading your Bible every day. Set aside time every day to read that book. I suggest reading 3-4 chapters a day... and normally you can read the whole Bible in a year. Then start over.

"So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." --- Romans 10:17

I suggest reading the following books first...

1. Mark

2. Acts

3. Ephesians

4. John

5. Romans

6. 1 & 2 Corinthians.

Matthew thru John is about when Jesus was on this earth, His birth, His life, His death and His resurrection. Which is the gospel in a nutshell.

Acts is about how the church began and grew, about how to be saved, about how the church worshiped and how the apostles taught others.

Romans thru Revelation (22 books) are about how to live the Christian life Jesus wants us to live. Many illustrations about the church, it's interaction with it's members and some of what the church is.

These are things, I think, are important to growing our faith as some call it.

These are suggestions... hope this helps.

God speed! .... [8-|]

Kathleen Marie

Josiah, do you have just the free version? Or did you also buy the Logos 7 Anglican Starter library?

Ken McGuire

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203230#Comment_1203230

Hello mike, are those books i already have? or have to purchased?

The package you purchased is, in my opinion, probably the best of the "Starter" level libraries that Logos offers - and I am not Anglican. I like it because it has a very good and up to date lay level commentary in the "For Everyone" series, as well as a very good introduction/overview of the Bible in the Knowles Bible Guide. In addition, the Eerdmans Commentary, Dictionary, and Companion are all useful reference works.

As for what to read in the Bible to have a fuller understanding of the Gospel? Well, eventually all of it. But I am a bit of a fan of something I think Robert Jenson said. The first statement of the Gospel was "Jesus is Risen". And this was enough for those who knew who Jesus was and heard his teaching. But eventually we had to say who this Jesus was, and so we have Matthew, Mark, Luke and John telling us that, and then we have the rest of the New Testament telling us what "is Risen" means and doesn't mean. And, of course, Jesus himself is the source and summit of the religion of Israel as expressed in the Old Testament...

Kathleen Marie

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203271#Comment_1203271

The NIrV is the easiest Bible translation to read. The NIrV is NOT to be confused with the NIV. The little "r" stands for "readers". The NIrV is written with short sentences. And the sentences are arranged with the subject first and then the main verb second. Romans is an important book, but the ideas are new for a new Christian. The short sentences make it a lot easier to understand.

Logos only has the 1st edition NIrV.

https://www.logos.com/product/8788/new-international-readers-version-1998-ed

Zondervan is the publisher of the NIrV. Zondervan only sells the 2nd edition, now. The Logos software does not match the Zondervan Bibles bought in a regular store. Both are easy to read, though.

The NIrV is often used for kids, and for people learning English, and in many jails. I really like this Bible for new Christians of any age. I use it for myself, sometimes. Especially when I read Romans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_International_Reader%27s_Version

Kathleen Marie

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203275#Comment_1203275

This is the book version that I have bought for many people. I just wish that Logos would sell the 2nd edition NIrV that matches this book.

https://www.christianbook.com/bible-large-print-italian-slate-blue/9780310743927/pd/743920?en=google&event=SHOP&kw=bibles-0-20%7C743920&p=1179710&utm_source=google&dv=c&gclid=Cj0KCQjwr-SSBhC9ARIsANhzu14tQ08aan83jSHdBDnFCdK4BWlpGxuh3M_gwQ0rAJqZM6WRkQ6A9lcaAtM6EALw_wcB

Kathleen Marie

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203280#Comment_1203280

One of my favorite books in Logos for new or tired Christians is this daily devotional by David Wilkerson.

https://www.logos.com/product/43364/god-is-faithful-a-daily-invitation-into-the-father-heart-of-god

God Is Faithful: A Daily Invitation into the Father Heart of God

Overview

David Wilkerson was devoted to seeking and serving the Lord. Through the ministries he founded—Teen Challenge, World Challenge, and Times Square Church—Dave helped transform lives all over the world. This book honors his tremendous spiritual legacy. Mined from his personal writings, it offers 365 insightful, inspiring reflections that reveal the loving heart of the Father. Each day in this year-long devotional journey, you can experience what Wilkerson knew intimately and preached passionately to all: God is faithful and he takes great delight in you.

David Wilkerson is the Pastor in the book and the movie The Cross and the Switchblade

The Cross and the Switchblade

https://www.logos.com/product/154713/the-cross-and-the-switchblade-the-true-story-of-one-mans-fearless-faith

https://www.amazon.com/Cross-Switchblade-Pat-Boone/dp/B00009KYDK/ref=pd_bxgy_sccl_1/142-4867509-4051211?pd_rd_w=VADXt&pf_rd_p=6b3eefea-7b16-43e9-bc45-2e332cbf99da&pf_rd_r=JZ5RTQER887HRW660TA9&pd_rd_r=cb275ba3-79e2-43ab-9170-d85cb2b3f22f&pd_rd_wg=2PAfN&pd_rd_i=B00009KYDK&psc=1

Mike Binks

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203230#Comment_1203230

Hello mike, are those books i already have? or have to purchased?

You may not own them if the Logos 7 starter is your only resource.

The way to be sure is to open Logos - open the Library - go to the search bar - start typing 'Author:Wright' and see what comes up.

josiah grace

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203271#Comment_1203271

Logos 7 Anglican Starter library with the free version

josiah grace

Well guys i've been born again 1 year 4 months, been alone not teachers or guidance but as we all know having conviction and a contrite heart broken over sins for that first year god made away for me out of sexual sins, and leading up to this year i was drawn out of the world and watched some movies or a show a day leading up to these last couple months entirely devoted but confused. im trying to get close again with the lord, but not never understanding, Grace, faith, knowing god etc. I'm just trying to know that. I'll read Plain Theology for Plain People book and see how that helps me. But i'm honestly just sadly don't want to be doing or saying things in vain. I need counseling. I'm literally a child and never grew up and god found me and saved me. But despite desiring obedience, and doing the right thing, That is the holy spirit working in me? I just feel like because of lacking understanding like Mercy, Righteousness. I just don't know how about doing anything really. So i know i'm told to read. But without asking the holy spirit to teach me, reading would be useless? I'm trying to look to the cross and not fully embracing that, how would anything else really truly work. I feel myself slipping. I was really in doubt a couple weeks back, i really felt doubt, shame, condemnation and started really trying had a strong desire to find a church or help from a mature Christian to just sit down and talk to me and know what my problem is, I'm still working on finding someone. I know the word is important, and meditating on it. I just feel like i had Romans 5:1-5 and Ephesians 3:14-19 from listening was like the HS trying to get my attention when hearing it, but i looked at it and walked away from it and not knowing what to do with it. But romans 5 1 5, i just heard endurance, and i applied that but never understood it entirely. Does god take away what you do not learn, like looking in a mirror and forgetting what you look like, and because not knowing what i was suppose to do. i now feel like my lamps gone dim, and im just trying to get back on fire for the lord. that is why i am trying to properly apply truth.

Kathleen Marie

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203333#Comment_1203333

Logos 7 Anglican Starter library with the free version

Thank you for clarifying. I will look at what is included in your packages. In the meantime, I suggest that you also "buy" these free packages. They will add books and features to your logos software. You don't need to install them. You just need to "buy" them.

Verbum Basic

https://verbum.com/product/195715/verbum-9-basic

Faithlife Study Bible App for mobile devices

https://faithlife.com/products/faithlife-study-bible/app

josiah grace

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203357#Comment_1203357

srry i'm not catholic

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203358#Comment_1203358

srry i'm not catholic

I'm sorry you are not Catholic, too. That is easily fixed. [:D] Seriously, the Verbum package is owned by many non-Catholics because of the quality of the resources. You can easily ignore, not download, or hide the resources that are specifically Catholic. I assume you know that High Anglicans are very close to Catholics in doctrines.

Kathleen Marie

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203356#Comment_1203356

Josiah, you remind me so much of one of my parents and my parent's friends. One of my parents was a drug addict and the other struggled with alcohol. I was 10 years old when one of my parents got saved. God has a very special place in his heart for those saved out of the world. I know you see what you lack, but I promise you have something more than many mature Christians.

My parent and the friends were very very confused, and the more they learned from mature Christians, the more they became confused. They used to hold all night prayer meeting begging God to send them mature Christians to lead them. We children used to crawl under coffee tables and pews trying to find places to sleep where we would not get stepped on. The coats of the adults were our blankets. We fell asleep to the sound of their sobbing and prayers and praise.

Mature Christians tend to have an education and money and respect from the community. But not all of them have the same love for God as those recently saved out of the world. The Bible is like a love letter left behind. To study the love letter is good. But it is even better to pray and worship. When you are loving God and what He did for you, and you are sure that He loves you, you will make less mistakes than people that do not love God, but spend lots of time studying his love letter to us.

What you are feeling is what I see happen to so many people saved out of the world. The ones that do not give up, are the ones that do not hang their hope on mature Christians and study. Sometimes watching mature Christians and too much study can shake the faith of new Christians saved out of the world. Keep your hope and eyes on the one that saved you. Believe His promises even when the mature Christians don't. Don't worry too much about making mistakes. God loves your efforts as much as a human parent loves the mud pies and crayon drawings of their young child. Sometimes older children will give their parents costly and perfect gifts, but do not love them with the heart of a young child. You are precious in the sight of the Lord just as you are.

It is not uncommon for people that enter seminary training to lose their faith while in seminary. This was the first article that I read on the topic. New Christians and seminary students have some similarities. They are looking for more mature Christians to show them the way. Sometimes, the student has more faith than the professor. Don't give up, even when you see mature Christians giving up! Sometimes you have more than they have, not less. Study is not love. Love is better than study.

https://biblicalstudies.org.uk/article_earnest_trueman.html

In my experience as a university academic over the last eight years, I have known a number of evangelical students come unstuck during their studies. They have found the critical assaults on the Bible or the radical attacks from philosophy and theology, or the relativising effects of historical and phenomenological studies, to be too much to bear and have ultimately found it easier to abandon their evangelicalism than to stand against the deluge of alternative arguments being hurled at them from all sides. ...

... In conversations with such students, the problem has always started in another sphere: church attendance has slipped; Bible reading has slipped; the life of principled obedience has slipped; and it is this practical decline in daily Christian walk which has provided the framework for the impending intellectual crisis. ...

... My first basic point, then, is this: don't imagine that you can successfully integrate your theological studies with your daily Christian walk unless you have first established the latter on a sound footing. Are you praying daily for spiritual help, not just for your work, but for your life in general? Are you reading God's word every day not simply to pass your examinations but to familiarise yourself with salvation history, with God's revelation of himself, so that you yourself can understand more fully the God who has redeemed you and your own identity as one of the redeemed? Are you attending a local church regularly (and I must stress at this point that CU is no substitute for church) where the word is faithfully preached and the Lord's Supper is duly administered? If not, then you might as well stop now, for I have nothing more of use to say to you here; if you have not laid such basic foundations for integrating your studies with your faith, then you are simply not ready to address the more specific issues which academic theology raises for the Christian.

Kathleen Marie

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203358#Comment_1203358

srry i'm not catholic

The dictionaries are very helpful, and I have seen them quoted by Protestant professors. I am not recommending that you use the Verbum software, but I do use it, because the Catholic Topical Index is such a great tool for all Christians. If you "buy" the free Verbum, the dictionaries will be added to your Logos library.

There is a HUGE overlap in Anglican and catholic books and theology. So much so that there is such a thing as anglo-catholicism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Catholicism

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203155#Comment_1203155

But many of us have found many different answers to that, and so specific answers would be against the forum guidelines. So I will only say that regular reading the Bible is a quite useful discipline, and in my opinion, this is best done as part of a worshipping community.

I am amused by the differences in approach to answering the OP - the ability to believe that he believes and will find spiritual growth in the same way as yourself. Fortunately, a good 3/4 or more of Christians believe that spiritual growth needs to be individualized -- that a good mentor, spiritual friend, spiritual director, or role model is needed -- someone who knows you well enough to know your needs. If you have trouble finding such a figure or have bad experiences from a recommended guide, consider that a big black mark on the community you have chosen to worship with. So, like Ken, I'll leave it at "specific answers would be against the forum guidelines" and question all advice including my own.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203365#Comment_1203365

There is a HUGE overlap in Anglican and catholic books and theology. So much so that there is such a thing as anglo-catholicism

There is a huge overlap in all the ACELO churches -- Anglican (High)-Catholic-Eastern Orthodox-Lutheran (High)-Oriental Orthodox - so much so that they could merge with the average person in the pew not noticing anything different.

josiah grace

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203360#Comment_1203360

No i don't srry, so in Logos 7 Anglican Starter Legacy Library i purchased has that?

Kathleen Marie

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203368#Comment_1203368

I am amused by the differences in approach to answering the OP - the ability to believe that he believes and will find spiritual growth in the same way as yourself. Fortunately, a good 3/4 or more of Christians believe that spiritual growth needs to be individualized -- that a good mentor, spiritual friend, spiritual director, or role model is needed -- someone who knows you well enough to know your needs. If you have trouble finding such a figure or have bad experiences from a recommended guide, consider that a big black mark on the community you have chosen to worship with. So, like Ken, I'll leave it at "specific answers would be against the forum guidelines" and question all advice including my own.

I have thought a lot about this lately. My parent and the friends never found this person or group. They learned to attend church and serve in the church, but not to look to the members to show them the way. As a child and a teen, I watched how the mature Christians viewed my parent, and I learned some of my disrespect for my parent from them. I think the church's interactions with my parent led me astray more than anything the world did.

David Wilkerson is respectful towards and encouraging to the prodigals. What books and resources are in logos for beginners that do NOT teach that a mentor is essential? What books and resources see the prodigals as having special strengths and build on those strengths? Maybe in Logos 10 Basic, there could be something directed at new Christians who are asking questions like Josiah?

Kathleen Marie

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203370#Comment_1203370

Okay, I am looking at the 2 packages.

Logos 9 Basic

https://www.logos.com/basic

Logos 7 Anglican Library

https://www.logos.com/product/208025/logos-7-anglican-starter-legacy-library

Popping out to me is the ESV audio Bible to go along with the ESV text. Listening and reading increases comprehension. More exciting are the numerous studies that claim that general reading skills improve rapidly when students read and listen.

https://www.fatherly.com/health-science/audiobooks-vs-reading-listening-to-books-help-reading-kids/

One small study of 20 students with reading disabilities found that students who were given audiobooks to listen to while following along with the text saw a greater increase in reading skills after eight weeks compared to those who were just given the text. Researchers measured progress by comparing how many correct words students could read per minute before and after the eight week treatment. While the students who were given only print books could read about four more words per minute than before, students who were given audiobooks in addition to print books saw an increase of 17 words per minute.

The Bible Guide is a great Bible commentary for beginners and it is in the Anglican Library

https://www.logos.com/product/2217/the-bible-guide

Some of the older books are not great for beginners, but there is more than I thought in these two packages.

12 Months of Sundays is in the Anglican 7 library. This is an example of a book that is similar to a Catholic book. That Anglican liturgy is modeled after the current Catholic liturgy. It is not a beginner book, though.

https://www.logos.com/product/43963/twelve-months-of-sundays

Kathleen Marie

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203212#Comment_1203212

Logos 7 Anglican Starter Legacy Library

Your library already has some great resources.

1. Bible: ESV

2. Study: Consider the DIY Bible study course.

3. Commentary: New Testament / Old Testament for Everyone Series / Faithlife Bible Study Notes

4. Introduction: The Bible Guide

5. Theology: Concise Theology - Packer

6. Prayer: The Book of Common Prayer 1979

Your library is loaded with many great books!

I am in complete agreement with this list for the resources that you already own. I would not change a thing.

John Connell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203356#Comment_1203356

Josiah, in some ways I am a mature Christian, 74 years old and saved at a Billy Graham Crusade when I was 12. So I have some time in, but I wasn’t really maturing all that time. In many ways I am still young in my faith and as I read posts my the many students of God’s Word in the Forums I am humbled. My most significant spiritual growth has come since I became a Logos user 11years ago.

Having said all that, from time to time a younger man might ask to meet with me for prayer, counsel, advice, and discipling. I pray first, but the answer is almost always “Yes.” I am sure that if you find a Bible believing church you will find Bible classes, Community Groups and someone willing to mentor you. Few Christians will reject a sincere request for counsel and discipling. Start with the Pastor and ask who the Pastor might recommend.

Finally, read the Word, praying as you do.

-john

josiah grace

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203267#Comment_1203267

xnman i'm going to work on that im going to share a little of my experience with everyone here on top of using all the tools everyone has suggested
'New Testament for Everyone' series.
Knowles Bible Guide.
and the NLT STUDY guide mainly, but Also used Eerdmans Commentary, Dictionary, and Companion for further Word Study

I know listening and trying to focus on the word through audio because of working on comprehension skill. for starters the"So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." --- Romans 10:17 what xnman said. And by that in that romans 5 talking about endurance had been brought to my attention from by HS yet i walked away not knowing what i was to understand there not knowing meditation but what i got from it hearing it literally seemed the work of the holy spirit that it was enough for him use to have better control of my life. and another later in Ephesians 14 pauls prayer for spiritual growth had caught my attention but i never really truly grasped what i heard there so little do i know what to do with that but learning to trust him and something about my roots with grow deep into his love? This all has came from NLT while listening, but also recently i picked up NLT study bible so i can use to go through the listen you "marked" out for me starting with mark. I just wondering should i go and just read and focus listening to the whole NT first? and then start with Mark? I learned something interesting in "Can be read Below" "Charles Octavius Boothe, Plain Theology for Plain People" that "God puts forth the word which he wants us to receive. He shows us the strength of that word. What remains to be done must be done by us" and i am just wondering should i read the whole NT having that desire too before anything else? Because of my experience just listening to chapters in the books in NT as well reading Brought those scriptures to my attention.

For anyone that owns Charles Octavius Boothe, Plain Theology for Plain People and wants to go to that section in the book for more context and or could point out things, I'm open for rebuke and reproof.

Chapter 2: Man
IV. Man Fell of His Own Choice
(1) Immediate Results of the Fall

IMMEDIATE RESULTS OF THE FALL

Obedience was their covering, their righteousness, their robe of heavenly citizenship. While this remained untorn they were honorable, appearing in royal apparel. But now it is torn, and their nakedness shames them. They are troubled for garments, and fall to “sewing fig leaves together” to cover themselves. These dry and crumble and fall off. God is heard. They flee from his approaching voice, and seek to hide among the thick trees of the garden. He pursues them, overtakes them, holds them to trial. For the first time, that lordly pair of creatures begin to experience complainings and bitter feelings against each other. Here we come in sight of the first signs of human cowardice and deception. The man lays the blame on the woman, and the woman lays it on the serpent. Here it may be asked why God did not perfect their faith in him, so that doubt would have been impossible. Replying to this, I would say that active faith is composed of two operations; namely, first, it is the putting forth of evidence on one side, and, second, it is the acceptance of this evidence on the other. In the case of faith in God, it engages two parties: First, God puts forth the word which he wants us to receive. He shows us the strength of that word. What remains to be done must be done by us; that is to say, man must perform the part of resting on the word put before him. God put the word before Adam; he satisfied Adam of his power, wisdom, sovereignty, and goodness. God had done his part. Now if Adam refused to rest his confidence, his interests, and hopes in him, it is plain that the fault was entirely his own.
“Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. So he drove the man out: and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubim and a flaming sword, which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life” (Genesis 3:23, 24).
Sad sight! Bitter cup! Dark and doleful future! The soul is leprous! Woe to the world for the mournful sounds and woeful sights which it must now hear and see!

I'm Going to go with after possibly reading first the whole NT "Also by listening focusing better improving my comprehension on top of that because that is where faith had worked out best for me because i cannot read out loud that well and that it seems that the HS reveals best, on top of that now i have learned to stop and learn better what he's wanting to teach me there as well. I've went back to Ephesians 3:14-21 and Romans 5:5 several times trying to understand better what he wanted me to learn there and apply them, i do know that those are crucial books to learn"

josiah grace

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1203155#Comment_1203155

xnman i'm going to work on that im going to share a little of my experience with everyone here on top of using all the tools everyone has suggested
'New Testament for Everyone' series.
Knowles Bible Guide.
and the NLT STUDY guide mainly, but Also used Eerdmans Commentary, Dictionary, and Companion for further Word Study

I know listening and trying to focus on the word through audio because of working on comprehension skill that romans 5 talking about endurance had been brought to my attention yet i walked away not knowing what i was to understand there not knowing meditation but what i got from it hearing it literally seemed by the work of the holy spirit that was enough use to have better control of my life. and later in Ephesians 14 pauls prayer for spiritual growth had caught my attention but i never really truly grasped what i heard there so little do i know what to do with that but learning to trust him and something about my roots with grow deep into his love? This all has came from NLT while listening, but also recently i picked up NLT study bible so i can use to go through the listen you "marked" out for me starting with mark. I just wondering should i go and just read and focus listening to the whole NT first? and then start with Mark? I learned something interesting in "Can be read Below" "Charles Octavius Boothe, Plain Theology for Plain People" that "God puts forth the word which he wants us to receive. He shows us the strength of that word. What remains to be done must be done by us" and i am just wondering should i read the whole NT having that desire too before anything else? Because of my experience just listening to chapters in the books in NT as well reading Brought those scriptures to my attention.

For anyone that owns Charles Octavius Boothe, Plain Theology for Plain People and wants to go to that section in the book for more context and or could point out things, I'm open for rebuke and reproof.

Chapter 2: Man
IV. Man Fell of His Own Choice
(1) Immediate Results of the Fall

IMMEDIATE RESULTS OF THE FALL