What Logos Training Do You Use?

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, May 15 2022 7:18 AM

I've used the training on the Logos site, MP Seminars, and LearnLogos.com

What else, if anything, is everyone using?

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John Connell | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 15 2022 3:40 PM

https://support.verbum.com/hc/en-us/articles/4402655783693-Verbum-360-Training

The Verbum training is superb. Fathers Roza and Dalton are gifted teachers. They are teaching Verbum but it is exactly the same as Logos. Highly recommend it.

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 15 2022 4:16 PM

John Connell:

https://support.verbum.com/hc/en-us/articles/4402655783693-Verbum-360-Training

The Verbum training is superb. Fathers Roza and Dalton are gifted teachers. They are teaching Verbum but it is exactly the same as Logos. Highly recommend it.

Interesting, is this that different from the Logos side of the training?

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 15 2022 4:46 PM

David Taylor Jr:
Interesting, is this that different from the Logos side of the training?

Everything. Rather than being feature oriented, it is problem oriented i.e. more holistic.

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Kathleen Marie | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 15 2022 5:06 PM

Verbum and Logos software are almost identical. If you "buy" the free Verbum, you will get the additional features that you seen in the Verbum videos, like the Catholic Topical Index.

I own the Britannica Great Books Set and the Harvard Classics and the Catholic Topical Index and "cited by" tool work much better than the factbook and things that I was trained to use in Logos.

I highly recommend the Verbum training, even the older stuff. I use the older  Logos videos too. Sometimes they are more helpful not less helpful, because they were made before the features were added that I do not own.

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GaoLu | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 15 2022 7:09 PM

Verbum 360 is uniquely good.  

I also suggest Verbum advanced search training:

https://www.logos.com/product/51655/verbum-advanced-search-training 

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 15 2022 7:41 PM

MJ. Smith:

David Taylor Jr:
Interesting, is this that different from the Logos side of the training?

Everything. Rather than being feature oriented, it is problem oriented i.e. more holistic.

Interesting!

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John Connell | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 16 2022 2:48 AM

Kathleen Marie:
I have them all

Me too!.

Kathleen Marie, you are the one who tipped me off to this wonderful training resource. I was surprised how helpful the Homiletics series was. It was eye opening to see the process unfold.

-john

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Jan Krohn | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 16 2022 5:04 AM

By the way, all of the above training videos are included in the Verbum 9 Full Feature Upgrade.

Verbum 9 Full Feature Upgrade | Logos Bible Software

Dynamic price is $22 for me. (I already own the Logos 9 Full Feature Upgrade).

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Daniel Bender | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 16 2022 7:01 AM

Jan Krohn:

By the way, all of the above training videos are included in the Verbum 9 Full Feature Upgrade.

Verbum 9 Full Feature Upgrade | Logos Bible Software

Dynamic price is $22 for me. (I already own the Logos 9 Full Feature Upgrade).

Thank you Jan, my dynamic upgrade was $32 (well worth it to me).

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JBR | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 16 2022 7:05 AM

John Connell:

I was surprised how helpful the Homiletics series was. It was eye opening to see the process unfold.

-john

I already have the Logos Full-Feature Set. Does this training series expect you to have any other specific resources---books? Just wanting to know what else I may need to purchase if I get this training.

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 16 2022 7:16 AM

Do you actually need Verbum installed in order to follow along with the training, or is Logos similar enough to follow along using that, provided of course the training isn't in regard to a feature that's in Verbum but not Logos.

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Kathleen Marie | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 16 2022 7:54 AM

Rick Ausdahl:

Do you actually need Verbum installed in order to follow along with the training, or is Logos similar enough to follow along using that, provided of course the training isn't in regard to a feature that's in Verbum but not Logos.

You do not need Verbum installed to follow the training, but some things may not pop up as the default, and will have to be added manually. You will need to "buy" the free version of Verbum to get the basic features. If you are buying Verbum full feature for the training, all the better. Feature upgrades include the books necessary to use the new features. I only have the Verbum Bronze features, and I think I have everything in the videos, now, but I am not sure. The advanced videos are older than Verbum 9, when there were less features.

I got my advanced training through the St Paul libraries and some other packages and libraries. I needed some of the resources in those libraries for research papers, and that is when I just added them to the growing balance on my charge card. Logos is my only expensive earthly possession. I guess it is like the toolbox of any poor laborer.

I am not planning on buying Logos 10 or ever upgrading my features beyond Bronze. I am spending my money on libraries and learning to use the features that I already have. The windows laptop that I have is an older Thinkpad and it is already starting to have some problems. I will probably replace both my cheap cellular tablet and old laptop with a cellular Chromebook through my cellular provider, if they offer me a good enough cellular plan for it, and I will not have an app that uses most of the features that I already own. Buying more features is not the best investment for me, looking forward to the next few years.

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Kathleen Marie | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 16 2022 8:03 AM

Verbum full feature is still more that $190.00 for me. Logos full feature is more than $197.00.

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Rick Ausdahl | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 16 2022 8:14 AM

Kathleen Marie:

Rick Ausdahl:

Do you actually need Verbum installed in order to follow along with the training, or is Logos similar enough to follow along using that, provided of course the training isn't in regard to a feature that's in Verbum but not Logos.

You do not need Verbum installed to follow the training, but some things may not pop up as the default, and will have to be added manually. You will need to "buy" the free version of Verbum to get the basic features. If you are buying Verbum full feature for the training, all the better. Feature upgrades include the books necessary to use the new features. I only have the Verbum Bronze features, and I think I have everything in the videos, now, but I am not sure. The advanced videos are older than Verbum 9, when there were less features.

I got my advanced training through the St Paul libraries and some other packages and libraries. I needed some of the resources in those libraries for research papers, and that is when I just added them to the growing balance on my charge card. Logos is my only expensive earthly possession. I guess it is like the toolbox of any poor laborer.

I am not planning on buying Logos 10 or ever upgrading my features beyond Bronze. I am spending my money on libraries and learning to use the features that I already have. The windows laptop that I have is an older Thinkpad and it is already starting to have some problems. I will probably replace both my cheap cellular tablet and old laptop with a cellular Chromebook through my cellular provider, if they offer me a good enough cellular plan for it, and I will not have an app that uses most of the features that I already own. Buying more features is not the best investment for me, looking forward to the next few years.

Thank you Kathleen.  I have the full feature set for Logos 9, so other than some of Verbum's defaults possibly being different than those in Logos, it sounds like there's a good chance I'll be able to follow the training from within Logos.  I'll give that a try. 

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Doc B | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 16 2022 8:41 AM

Danny Zacharias has a good training course here, on Udemy.com.

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Kathleen Marie | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 16 2022 8:45 AM

When I was much newer to Logos, I had Logos on one computer and Verbum on another so that the training videos were as exact as possible. Now I have no trouble following any training: old or new, Logos or Verbum.

I have Verbum on my laptop right now, because the defaults that I needed were more likely to pop up, and I installed that before I purchased the Bronze features.  Now that I have more training, own the Bronze features, and have a larger library, I will probably replace the Verbum software with Logos.

Below Bronze, and without the resources that factbook expects, I was very reliant on the Catholic Topical Index and cited by tool as shown in the free youtube Verbum training. https://www.youtube.com/user/VerbumSoftware/videos In the beginning with Logos, all my searches were empty, but the Verbum searches were all full.

When you are new and poor, out of the box, Verbum is the friendlier software.

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Kathleen Marie | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 16 2022 8:49 AM

Just a reminder of what I was told awhile back: MP is the official Logos training, therefore all other training is produced by "competitors", even if it is training us to use Logos.

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David Taylor Jr | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, May 16 2022 9:09 AM

Doc B:

Danny Zacharias has a good training course here, on Udemy.com.

I was wondering if anyone had used that course. It's pretty good?

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