Logos Tool that completely Parses a Greek Word - is there one?

Ryan
Ryan Member Posts: 75
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Good morning! I'm in a third semester of Greek Studies and I'm a looking for a tool similar to the Greek wiki lexicon found at found katabiblion.com. Do you know of one that exists that I'm just not finding in Logos? Specifically Here's what I'd like:

- Must be within Logos, so I can link to Greek manuscripts quickly

- Must have the complete inflection chart so that I can see all the variations of that exact same word (particularly important for me with verbs), check out the chart on διαλογιζομαι for example: https://lexicon.katabiblon.com/?letter=dial

- Bonus points if the resource shows the complete chart with those present in biblical manuscripts bolded or highlited 

- Super Bonus multiplier points if this logos feature is free and already exists (like katabiblion). 

Honestly, the only downside to Katabiblion in my thinking and process is that it's not link directly to my logos resources. It would be amazing to click on a Greek word within Logos and see the charts of that word broken down all in one place. 

Thank you for your suggestions!

Comments

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,677

    Hi Ryan

    I'm not totally sure what you are looking for but does the Logos Morphology Charts capability help?

    Graham

  • Kiyah
    Kiyah Member Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭✭

    Logos sells Analytical Lexicons. Do you have access to these resources?

    Here's a sample for the word ἀνακάμπτω:

    Greek New Testament:

    Septuagint:

    If you're in the Academic Program you may be able to get Logos Academic Basic for free which I believe includes the Septuagint volume (at least it used to). The Greek New Testament resources you'll have to pay for.

  • Kiyah
    Kiyah Member Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭✭

    Hi Ryan

    I'm not totally sure what you are looking for but does the Logos Morphology Charts capability help?

    Graham

    The major limitation of the morphology charts is that they don't include the LXX.

    Also, FYI...Notice that Graham's morphology chart is only showing verses in English under the chart. It's probably because he doesn't have a Greek NT prioritized, or he has the LXX prioritized above the GNT, so make sure a GNT is prioritized and prioritized ahead of the LXX so that you can see both Greek and English like this:

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 3,087 ✭✭

    Kiyah's post is your closest answer, along with Graham's example.

    I use them to right-click unexpected greek, and hebrew, and unknown latin and syriac.  Also depending on the analytic lexicon, they also supply additional unusual info.  So, I have several for greek.

    But that said, once you leave the Bible (and maybe some DSS, etc), you're out of luck.  I have Patrologia prioritized, and pretty much no issues with nouns, preps, etc (which don't really need help, except for church-usage).  But verbs, hold on to your hat.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,572

    just for completeness there is also a Lexham Research Lexicon series:

    ἀνάθεμα   - ατος,  τό;  ( anathema ),  n.   cursed;  accursed .   Hebrew 
    equivalent:  חֵ֫רֶם  1   (15),  חָרְמָה   (2),  חֶ֫רֶב   (1),  חרם  1   (1).   LTW   ἀνάθεμα  
    (Cursing) .

    Noun Usage

    1.       curse  (appeal)   —  an  appeal  to  some  supernatural  power  to  inflict  injury 
    or  destruction  on  someone  or  some  group.   See  also  ἀρά κατάρα Related 
    Topics:  Curse Anathema Execration

    Ac 23:14       Ἀναθέματι    ἀνεθεματίσαμεν    ἑαυτοὺς    μηδενὸς    γεύσασθαι   
    under a curse we have bound ourselves of nothing to partake
    ἕως    οὗ    ἀποκτείνωμεν    τὸν    Παῦλον.   
    until [-] we have killed [-] Paul

    2.       cursed  thing   —  the  object  of  cursing  or  detesta tion;  that  which  is 
    execrated.   See  also  κατάθεμα κατάρα Related  Topics:  Curse Anathema
    Execra tion

    Ro 9:3       ηὐχόμην    γὰρ    ἀνάθεμα    εἶναι    αὐτὸς    ἐγὼ    ἀπὸ    τοῦ    Χριστοῦ   
    could wish for accursed to be myself I from [-] Christ
    ὑπὲρ   
    for the sake of

    1 Co 12:3       Ἀνάθεμα    Ἰησοῦς,   
    [is] accursed Jesus

    1 Co 16:22       εἴ    τις    οὐ    φιλεῖ    τὸν    κύριον,    ἤτω    ἀνάθεμα.   
    if anyone [does] not love the Lord let him be accursed

    Ga 1:8       εὐηγγελισάμεθα    ὑμῖν,    ἀνάθεμα    ἔστω.   
    we proclaimed to you accursed let him be

    Ga 1:9       ὃ    παρελάβετε,    ἀνάθεμα    ἔστω.   
    what you have received accursed let him be

    Septuagint References

          Le 27:28 Nu 21:3 Dt 13:15 Dt 13:17 Dt 20:17 Jos 6:17 Jos 7:1 Jos 7:12
    Jdg 1:17 Zec 14:11 Mac 2:13

    Alternate Corpus References

          Apostolic Fathers:  Did 16.5

          Plutarchus:  Plut., Pel. 25.7

          Theocritus:  Theoc., Ep. 13.2

          Josephus (Loeb):  Wars 5.9

          NT Apocrypha:  The Acts of Philip 12 The Acts of  Philip 15
    The Acts of Philip 28

          Philo:  Migr 98 Her 200 Mos I 253

          Synonyms of the New Testament:  Trench, Syn.  §v

    Commentary Articles

    Fruchtenbaum,  Arnold  G.  Faith  Alone:  The  Condition  of  Our  Salvation:  An 
    Exposition  of  the  Book  of  Galatians  and  Other  Relevant  Topics Edited  by 
    Christiane  Jurik.  Second  Edition.  San  Antonio,  TX:  Ariel  Ministries,  2016.

          Ga 1:8  from  2. The Rebuke of False Teachers —1:8–9

    De  Boer,  Martinus  C.  Galatians:  Commentary Edited  by  C.  Clifton 
    Black,  M.  Eugene  Boring,  and  John  T.  Carroll.  The  New  Testament  Library. 
    Louisville,  KY:  Westminster  John  Knox  Press,  2013.

          Ga 1:8  from  1:6–10 Rebuke and Imprecation

    Das, A. Andrew.  Galatians . Edited by Dean O. 
    Wenthe. Concordia Commentary. Saint Louis, 
    MO: Concordia Publishing House, 2014.

          Ga 1:8  from  The Curse of God upon Any Who 
    Would Depart from the Gospel Message (1:8– 9)

    Williams,  A.  Lukyn.  The  Epistle  of  Paul  the  Apostle  to  the  Galatians
    Cambridge  Greek  Testament  for  Schools  and  Colleges.  Cambridge: 
    Cambridge  University  Press,  1914.

          Ga 1:8  from  6–9. Subject Op the Epistle  Stated

    deSilva,  David  A.  The  Letter  to  the  Galatians Edited  by  Ned  B.  Stonehouse, 
    F.  F.  Bruce,  Gordon  D.  Fee,  and  Joel  B.  Green.  The  New  International 
    Commentary  on  the  New  Testament.  Grand  Rapids,  MI:  William  B. 
    Eerdmans  Publishing  Company,  2018.

          Ga 1:8  from  II. Paul Announces the  Presenting Problem (1:6–10)



    n.
    Noun




    LTW
    Lexham Theological Wordbook





    All instances of the current lemma occurring in the current sense are included.




    Rick Brannan, ed., Lexham Research Lexicon of the Greek New Testament, Lexham Research Lexicons (Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2020).


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  • Ryan
    Ryan Member Posts: 75

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    Kiyah said:

    Logos sells Analytical Lexicons. Do you have access to these resources?

    ……

    Here's a sample for the word ἀνακάμπτω:

    Greek New Testament:……

    Septuagint:

    If you're in the Academic Program you may be able to get Logos Academic Basic for free which I believe includes the Septuagint volume (at least it used to). The Greek New Testament resources you'll have to pay for.

    I do in fact have these and never knew what they were. I’m kinda new to Logos and have been spending some of my school budget to get into the Academic equivilant to silver I think? Plus a handful of other add ons.

    Thank you for your suggestion. The Greek Analytical Lexicon is probably the closest thing to what I’m asking for. I’d still prefer the full version like in Katabiblion where the chart shows every possible inflection while indicating which ones are found in the Greek text, only for my own edification of trying to become more familiar with the patterns rather than learning by rote, but what you’ve shown me is very helpful and I’m going to learn to use it. Thanks. :)

  • Ryan
    Ryan Member Posts: 75

    Hi Ryan

    I'm not totally sure what you are looking for but does the Logos Morphology Charts capability help?

    ….

    Graham

    Thank you Graham, it doesn’t do what I want but it opens up a lot of ideas that I’d like to integrate. Cheers brother!

  • Ryan
    Ryan Member Posts: 75

    Thanks for the tips DMB and MJ. Theres so much in my logos that I don’t understand yet So I appreciate the advice.