ESV Church History Study Bible Notes
Was disappointed to find almost no linking to resources used in this volume- though the info panel was clear they were- any explanation?
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I initially thought all the unlinked resources were not linked because I must not own them, but now I think I've found a few that I own that are not linked (will try to verify).
So yes, this is curious. I'm going to polyanna this and assume they'll add the tags/links as we go along.
UPDATE: Yes, I verified that books I own are not linked as they should be. (Also interesting side-note...in this example the cited verse in the resource does not match the verse from which it was quoted in the original book (Jn 7:38 vs Jn 7:39)...a bit of editorial laxity by the original book editors, I suspect.
Eating a steady diet of government cheese, and living in a van down by the river.
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The only resource that is linked in my resource is "John Chrysostom, Homilies on Ephesians."
Checked other books for giggles and yes ole' John made a show in most of the NT- but everyone else was blackballed.
Found no links in the OT.
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Whyndell Grizzard said:
The only resource that is linked in my resource is "John Chrysostom, Homilies on Ephesians."
It's a few more - but really a few only. I ran the concordance to check. Augustinus (mostly on the Psalms) is linked more often than Chrysostom, those two being the only authors in triple digits. But then it becomes scarce: next often is Jerome with only 14 and Cyril of Alexandria with only 12 linked references, and that's it for the double digits. The sum total of the single digits is less than fifty.
Actually every single one of the quoted historical notes should be linked. This should be labelled as Reader's Version.
Have joy in the Lord!
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Yeah, and for free if I have to do all the work of looking up the references [:D]
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Whyndell Grizzard said:
the info panel was clear they were- any explanation?
Am I'm not disagreeing with your expectations but rather simply providing an explanation for it
Doc B said:If this is not an editorial error, this would indicate an error in the assignment of verse mapping for the Bible version or an error in the verse maps themselves. I hope you reported this as a typo.
NB.Mick said:Actually every single one of the quoted historical notes should be linked. This should be labelled as Reader's Version.
This is the fault of the original editors of the printed ESV study Bible. Logos can provide the links under two conditions:
- When the reference is given to a commonly recognized reference system e.g. [quote](Augustine, “Letter 130”)
- When a reference is to a particular page of a particular edition.
This means that references such as
[quote](John Gill, An Exposition of the Old Testament)
are not acceptable in any academic environment because they provide no serious information to help you find the context of the quotation. In short, the original editors and publishers shafted us ... and Logos. But then, it is much easier to make quotes mean what you want to them to mean if the reader has to go to extraordinary effort to check your work. I learned this from Alice in Wonderland as an extension of [quote]
“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’
’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’
’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Looks like a new note file is going to be made- hopefully locating the proper reference will be easy.
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