FInd out a terse commentary somewhat like a study Bible

Kee Lau
Kee Lau Member Posts: 78 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

I remember once I used a terse commentary on the OT or on the whole Bible (somewhat like a study Bible). I also remember it has quite nice insight on the original language (Hebrew or Greek). My questions are--
(1) How to find it out if it is only on the OT?
(2) How to find it out if it is on the whole Bible?

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  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,919 ✭✭✭✭

    Kee, I can't quite figure out what 'it' is you refer to. On Logos.com, they generally show the Bible coverage in the title.

    Regarding a terse commentary, I enjoy https://www.logos.com/product/47636/fortress-commentary-on-the-bible .

    I have the heavy-duty ones, OL ones, and so forth. But, oddly, Fortress is to the point.  I like to take a peak.

    For far more terse, and OL, of course NET Notes are excellent.

    But ... scanning thru your posts, I think you're wanting more technical?

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  • David Paul
    David Paul Member Posts: 6,010 ✭✭✭

    DMB said:

    For far more terse, and OL, of course NET Notes are excellent.

    This is what popped into my mind. Notes...excellent. Text...not so much--never seen a committee so prone to refabricating the OL text to extract a reading it finds preferable as does the NET group. [8-)]

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  • Kee Lau
    Kee Lau Member Posts: 78 ✭✭

    Hi, DMB and David Paul

    My questions are--
    (1) How to find THAT TERSE COMMENTARY out if it is only COMMENTING on the OT (better to have original language insight)?
    (2) How to find THAT TERSE COMMENTARY out if it is COMMENTING on the whole Bible (better to have original language insight)?

    Also, is there any way to search for a book you only have a blurred memory (like my case said above)? In other words, if there is a searching methodology, it is good to know. 

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,919 ✭✭✭✭

    This is what popped into my mind. Notes...excellent. Text...not so much--never seen a committee so prone to refabricating the OL text to extract a reading it finds preferable as does the NET group. Roll Eyes

    I've been reading Robert Alter's book on translating hebrew. It's interesting, though unsettling ... the examples he cites. Merits a sigh.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,919 ✭✭✭✭

    Kee Lau said:

    Hi, DMB and David Paul

    My questions are--
    (1) How to find THAT TERSE COMMENTARY out if it is only COMMENTING on the OT (better to have original language insight)?
    (2) How to find THAT TERSE COMMENTARY out if it is COMMENTING on the whole Bible (better to have original language insight)?

    Also, is there any way to search for a book you only have a blurred memory (like my case said above)? In other words, if there is a searching methodology, it is good to know. 

    As above, the only way I know for Bible coverage, is from the title, and checking the table of contents (especially apocrypha).  

    As regards blurred memory, I use google and 'site:logos.com'. The actual Logos.com search is poor.  But the best way is to search from the desktop and odd phrase you remember and let it search the Logos.com library ... which I almost never do!

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,926

    Kee Lau said:

    My questions are--
    (1) How to find THAT TERSE COMMENTARY out if it is only COMMENTING on the OT (better to have original language insight)?
    (2) How to find THAT TERSE COMMENTARY out if it is COMMENTING on the whole Bible (better to have original language insight)?

    You can search in the Library Find box:

    1. type:commentary  subj:bible.O.T.-Commentaries   ---> might find some with NT
    2. type:commentary  subj:bible--Commentaries    --->  whole bible

    But you will have to inspect them to see if they provide original language insight.

    Kee Lau said:

    Also, is there any way to search for a book you only have a blurred memory (like my case said above)? In other words, if there is a searching methodology, it is good to know. 

    Fuzzy is an option of Bible Search. Just provide key words separated by a space in the Search box.

    You could use the same input for Books Search, but use one of the options like Author Type Series after the original search.

    Dave
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  • Christian Alexander
    Christian Alexander Member Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭

    Regarding a terse commentary, I like Believer's Bible Commentary. It provides a solid verse-by-verse commentary in one volume. Douglas Stuart and Gordon Fee's "How to Read the Bible Book by Book" is one of my favorite "go to" books for helping me understand the content I am working on inside the biblical text. I  enjoy how the book is organized, treating each Bible book separately. Their other OT and NT Exegesis books are wonderful as well.  The Eerdmans Commentary on the Bible is also a good, foundational and critical commentary but I never use it for quick reference as it is either too much or too little information. 

    DMB said:

    I've been reading Robert Alter's book on translating hebrew. 

    What is the name of that book DMB? 

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have a tag I use in my library for one-volume commentaries on the whole Bible (i.e., terse commentaries): 1VolComm. I can't claim to have exhaustively tagged all such commentaries in my library, but perhaps this list will help you find the one you're thinking of:

    Africa Bible Commentary
    The Baker Illustrated Bible Commentary
    Believer’s Bible Commentary
    The Bible Exposition Commentary
    The Bible Knowledge Commentary
    The Collegeville Bible Commentary
    Eerdmans Commentary on the Bible
    The Eerdmans Companion to the Bible
    Evangelical Commentary on the Bible
    The Grace New Testament Commentary
    Halley’s Bible Handbook
    Harper’s Bible Commentary
    Holman Concise Bible Commentary
    KJV Bible Commentary
    Matthew Henry’s Commentary on the Whole Bible: Complete and Unabridged in One Volume
    Matthew Henry’s Concise Commentary on the Bible
    The New Bible Commentary
    New International Bible Commentary
    Oxford Bible Commentary
    The Teacher’s Bible Commentary
    The Teacher’s Commentary
    Tyndale Concise Bible Commentary
    With the Word Bible Commentary

    The only ones of those that mention original languages "Hebrew" or "Greek" in their metadata are these two:

    The Bible Knowledge Commentary

    Eerdmans Commentary on the Bible

    I did some spot searching in both, and they both mention Hebrew and Greek meanings of words (though they don't seem to ever show the actual Hebrew and Greek words or even their transliterations).

    Both of them are substantially long books -- the first is two volumes in one (OT 1588 pages and NT 990 pages), and the second is 1586 pages total covering both OT and NT.

    I hope that helps, and I hope one of these latter two is what you're remembering.

  • Beloved Amodeo
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  • Kee Lau
    Kee Lau Member Posts: 78 ✭✭

    I have a tag I use in my library for one-volume commentaries on the whole Bible (i.e., terse commentaries): 1VolComm.

    Hi, Rosie, could you show me step by step? How to make a tag? (I am a Logos baby.) 

  • Kee Lau
    Kee Lau Member Posts: 78 ✭✭

    Fuzzy is an option of Bible Search. Just provide key words separated by a space in the Search box.

    You could use the same input for Books Search, but use one of the options like Author Type Series after the original search.

    Hi, could you show me step by step? Thanks very much.

  • Wolfgang Schneider
    Wolfgang Schneider Member Posts: 678 ✭✭

    Kee Lau said:

    ... could you show me step by step? How to make a tag? (I am a Logos baby.) 

    Hi Kee Lau, while Rosie might have some further ideas an that, I wanted to briefly mention one way for adding your own tags to a resource.

    Open the Library panel, then invoke the "information" side panel in the Library by clicking on the "(i)" icon at top right of the panel.  Next, you select the resource you would like to tag with your  own tag from the Library listing (careful, do not click on its name as that will open the resource, click further to the right in the row to just mark the resource). When resource is selected, the information side panel will fill with info and data about that resource. A little down in the information panel you find an "add tags" field, where you can add tags.  
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    A major benefit to tagging resources is the possibility to use these "mytags" for searching and using them to make quick collections.

    Wolfgang Schneider

    (BibelCenter)

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Kee Lau said:

    I have a tag I use in my library for one-volume commentaries on the whole Bible (i.e., terse commentaries): 1VolComm.

    Hi, Rosie, could you show me step by step? How to make a tag? (I am a Logos baby.) 

    Rather than rewrite what has already been written about this, I will direct you to the Wiki page about Tagging:

    https://wiki.logos.com/Tagging 

    If you have some specific questions about it after reading that and trying it, let us know.

  • Kee Lau
    Kee Lau Member Posts: 78 ✭✭

    Fuzzy is an option of Bible Search. Just provide key words separated by a space in the Search box.

    You could use the same input for Books Search, but use one of the options like Author Type Series after the original search.

    Could you show me step by step or introduce a Logos website about these things to me? Thanks.

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Kee Lau said:

    Fuzzy is an option of Bible Search. Just provide key words separated by a space in the Search box.

    You could use the same input for Books Search, but use one of the options like Author Type Series after the original search.

    Could you show me step by step or introduce a Logos website about these things to me? Thanks.

    There is a Feature Training Video about Fuzzy Search on this page. Scroll down to find it. It's under the second section "New or Updated in Logos 10"; in the third row, the third video. The direct link to that video is here: https://faithlifetv.com/media/380002 

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,926

    Kee Lau said:

    Fuzzy is an option of Bible Search. Just provide key words separated by a space in the Search box.

    You could use the same input for Books Search, but use one of the options like Author Type Series after the original search.

    Could you show me step by step or introduce a Logos website about these things to me? Thanks.

    Fuzzy: input words separated by space

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    Books Search is not as convenient, but you can choose from Author, Type, Series after the initial Search:

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    Dave
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