Official: Update for Faithlife Connect subscribers

Mark Barnes (Logos)
Mark Barnes (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 2,004
edited November 2024 in English Forum

If you're a current Connect subscriber, you've probably been waiting for us to confirm how we'll migrate you to our new subscriptions. It's taken longer than we wanted, so thank you for your patience.

The good news is that next week, we will be adding all the new subscription features into Connect Essentials and Connect Premiere at no extra cost. (That includes all the different variations of Essentials and Premiere, including "No Library" aka former Logos Now customers.)

You will also receive the 400 books that are included as part of the Logos Pro subscription. This means that you'll get the benefits of the Logos Pro subscription now, without losing any of your Connect perks and without having to wait until we've completed a full migration onto the new subscription, which we'll do in the fall.

If you are already subscribed to Logos Pro or Logos Premium, we will cancel that subscription for you, as it will no longer be needed. Any outstanding time left on that subscription will be added to your Connect subscription.

If you are already subscribed to Logos Max, we will NOT automatically cancel your subscription because that would mean you would lose access to the additional 100 books that come with Max, along with any Logos Max Legacy Fallback License qualification you might have accrued. You can choose to cancel the renewal yourself, of course. Regardless of what choice you make, any outstanding time left on your Max subscription will be added to your Connect subscription.

I'm not sure of the exact date/time these features will be added to your subscription, but we'll let subscribers know by email as soon as it is done.

If you're still a subscriber when we fully migrate Connect customers in the fall, you'll be migrated onto the discounted track of Logos Pro, which will be priced at $9.99/month or $99.99/year. At that point, you could choose to upgrade, downgrade, or cancel your renewal. We'll say more about that process nearer the time.

Thanks again for your patience. I'll try to answer any questions you might have in this thread.

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  • Tim Hensler
    Tim Hensler Member Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭

    Thank you, Mark.  This is great news and a great deal.  I am excited.

  • Kenneth Neighoff
    Kenneth Neighoff Member Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭

    Thanks for this update. 

  • Jonathan Bradley
    Jonathan Bradley Member Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭

    This is awesome news to hear! Thank you, Mark! 

    Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC

  • Mattillo
    Mattillo Member Posts: 6,209 ✭✭✭✭

    Looking forward to getting migrated into logos pro! That was the edition I wanted anyway :)

     Quick question, does this apply for Faithlife Connect Essentials - No library (formerly Logos Now) too?

  • Mark Barnes (Logos)
    Mark Barnes (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 2,004

    Mattillo said:

     Quick question, does this apply for Faithlife Connect Essentials - No library (formerly Logos Now) too?

    Yes, it does.

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭
  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,212 ✭✭✭

    If you're still a subscriber when we fully migrate Connect customers in the fall, you'll be migrated onto the discounted track of Logos Pro, which will be priced at $9.99/month or $99.99/year. At that point, you could choose to upgrade, downgrade, or cancel your renewal. We'll say more about that process nearer the time.

    Thank you for this announcement. My only question if you're prepared to comment is, do Connect subscribers qualify for the Max upgrade at the discounted price?

    Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

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  • Bill Moore
    Bill Moore Member Posts: 975 ✭✭✭

    This is an excellent transitional move … really good. Thanks for the news, Mark, and for your work in communicating with the Logos community. 

    Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC

  • Bruce Cullom Sr.
    Bruce Cullom Sr. Member Posts: 25 ✭✭

    Mark, 

    You may have already covered this, but I would like some additional explanation.

    I own Logos 10 Gold, and I have been been a (very) long-time connect subscriber. My connect fee just renewed for another year ($99).

    Additionally, I'm paying the $9.95 a month for the early bird access.

    So I'm not quite certain as to what I should do. Should I cancel my connect subscription now, or wait until later? Or, will Logos migrate the balance of my connect fee to Logos Pro when connect goes away?

    Thank you,

    Bruce Cullom Sr.

    (PS. Thank you and the Logos team for all of the good work you do. I've been with Logos since version 1.6 (about 30 years), which came on six 3.5" floppy discs  :).

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,943

    Should I cancel my connect subscription now, or wait until later? Or, will Logos migrate the balance of my connect fee to Logos Pro when connect goes away?

    If you are already subscribed to Logos Pro or Logos Premium, we will cancel that subscription for you, as it will no longer be needed. Any outstanding time left on that subscription will be added to your Connect subscription.

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  • Mark Barnes (Logos)
    Mark Barnes (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 2,004

    do Connect subscribers qualify for the Max upgrade at the discounted price?

    Yes.

  • Jonathan Bradley
    Jonathan Bradley Member Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭

    do Connect subscribers qualify for the Max upgrade at the discounted price?

    Yes.

    Woohoo! Thank you, Mark. 

    Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC

  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,212 ✭✭✭

    do Connect subscribers qualify for the Max upgrade at the discounted price?

    Yes.

    That's excellent! I'm very pleased.

    Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

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  • MWW
    MWW Member Posts: 429 ✭✭

    Thank you, Mark for the update and thank you Logos – much appreciated![Y]

  • Joey Midgett
    Joey Midgett Member Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    Question about fallback license, not that I plan to just subscribe for two years, but just to make sure in case of unseen circumstances. As a Faithlife Connect subscriber, I own some features but not full, if I subscribe for two years do I keep all the non ai and cloud features, or do I need to purchase the Full Feature Set to be eligible for the fall back license?

    Just trying to figure out what I would gain if I did purchase the full feature set now as opposed to just subscribing and having the fall-back as a backup.

  • Jordan Litchfield
    Jordan Litchfield Member Posts: 86 ✭✭

    As a FLC subscriber, I'm not sure how I feel about this. It seems to me that I am going to experience a significant loss in value for what I am paying. Currently, with FLC I have access to all features in the most up-to-date version (L10 until L11) comes out. However, since the migration is not going to move into Logos Max (at least not without spending more money), then I am paying the same amount for less features.

    Furthermore, I will no longer get the following:

    • 25% off each month on Lexham resources
    • 3 free Faithlife Classic e-books each month
    • 2% back each year on what I spent the previous year

    Now, this is how it looks to me. However, I'd welcome any correction.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,245

    Currently, with FLC I have access to all features in the most up-to-date version (L10 until L11) comes out. However, since the migration is not going to move into Logos Max (at least not without spending more money), then I am paying the same amount for less features.

    I don't think is what Mark was saying - he said:

    The good news is that next week, we will be adding all the new subscription features into Connect Essentials and Connect Premiere at no extra cost. (That includes all the different variations of Essentials and Premiere, including "No Library" aka former Logos Now customers.)

    You will also receive the 400 books that are included as part of the Logos Pro subscription. This means that you'll get the benefits of the Logos Pro subscription now, without losing any of your Connect perks and without having to wait until we've completed a full migration onto the new subscription, which we'll do in the fall.

    So you will get all of the current new subscription features without losing anything you currently have through your Connect subscription. You will also get access to any of the 400 books included in Pro that you don't currently have.

    There is not currently any differences in new feature functionality between Pro and Max - although I expect that will change in the future.

    Furthermore, I will no longer get the following:

    • 25% off each month on Lexham resources
    • 3 free Faithlife Classic e-books each month
    • 2% back each year on what I spent the previous year

    I seem to remember seeing some discussion on this elsewhere but I am not sure.

  • Mattillo
    Mattillo Member Posts: 6,209 ✭✭✭✭

    Furthermore, I will no longer get the following:

    • 25% off each month on Lexham resources
    • 3 free Faithlife Classic e-books each month
    • 2% back each year on what I spent the previous year

    You will now get 5% back each year. There is talk of an additional free book and access to mobileEd courses but I believe the 25% lexham and 3 free ebooks is gone. I will miss the 3 free books as well as I've been building up some collections. You do have time though to grab a few more.

  • Bill Moore
    Bill Moore Member Posts: 975 ✭✭✭

    As a FLC subscriber, I'm not sure how I feel about this. It seems to me that I am going to experience a significant loss in value for what I am paying. Currently, with FLC I have access to all features in the most up-to-date version (L10 until L11) comes out. However, since the migration is not going to move into Logos Max (at least not without spending more money), then I am paying the same amount for less features.

    Furthermore, I will no longer get the following:

    • 25% off each month on Lexham resources
    • 3 free Faithlife Classic e-books each month
    • 2% back each year on what I spent the previous year

    Now, this is how it looks to me. However, I'd welcome any correction.

    Jordan, I think that you are substantially correct. My understanding is that these perks will continue until a Connect subscriber is migrated officially to Pro. If one stays with Pro after migrated from Connect, one will lose some of Connect's features, sort of like dropping from Logos 10 Full Feature Set to Logos Silver Feature Set.

    So if one does not own those features through having purchased the L10-FFS, it seems that one must spend $30 more annually for Max to retain them.

    I went ahead and purchased the L10-FFS at the nicely discounted prices that's available, if I recall correctly, through September 6, and I intend to migrate to Pro and remain there. I did that even through it will take five-plus years for the price to even out, but it was sort of an insurance policy should I decide not to continue the Pro subscription after a few months with it. Even with the fallback provision after two years, the AI/cloud necessary feature components of Pro and Max will be lost, but one will retain them if one has purchased the L10-FFS. I'm not sure how much I will utilize the difference in features that the Full Feature Set has over the Silver Feature Set, but I'll have them if I need them.

    Of course, we make our plans, but circumstances can certainly change (I just noticed Mattillo's note above mine). And I may be misunderstanding some things, though Mark's OP has helped answer a lot of questions that many of us have had.

    Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC

  • Jordan Litchfield
    Jordan Litchfield Member Posts: 86 ✭✭

    Currently, with FLC I have access to all features in the most up-to-date version (L10 until L11) comes out. However, since the migration is not going to move into Logos Max (at least not without spending more money), then I am paying the same amount for less features.

    I don't think is what Mark was saying - he said:

    The good news is that next week, we will be adding all the new subscription features into Connect Essentials and Connect Premiere at no extra cost. (That includes all the different variations of Essentials and Premiere, including "No Library" aka former Logos Now customers.)

    You will also receive the 400 books that are included as part of the Logos Pro subscription. This means that you'll get the benefits of the Logos Pro subscription now, without losing any of your Connect perks and without having to wait until we've completed a full migration onto the new subscription, which we'll do in the fall.

    So you will get all of the current new subscription features without losing anything you currently have through your Connect subscription. You will also get access to any of the 400 books included in Pro that you don't currently have.

    There is not currently any differences in new feature functionality between Pro and Max - although I expect that will change in the future.

    Okay, thanks for your reply, Graham. I'm still not sure I understand though. When I look at the comparisons between Logos Pro and Logos Max, there is clearly functionality/features present in Max that aren't in Pro. And yet it will be Pro that I will be migrated to. So when you say...

    So you will get all of the current new subscription features without losing anything you currently have through your Connect subscription.

    ... I don't know how I would have all the new subscription features available, like I have had for years with FLC. Is that not correct?

  • Jonathan Bradley
    Jonathan Bradley Member Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭

    Mattillo said:

    Furthermore, I will no longer get the following:

    • 25% off each month on Lexham resources
    • 3 free Faithlife Classic e-books each month
    • 2% back each year on what I spent the previous year

    You will now get 5% back each year. There is talk of an additional free book and access to mobileEd courses but I believe the 25% lexham and 3 free ebooks is gone. I will miss the 3 free books as well as I've been building up some collections. You do have time though to grab a few more.

    Where did you see that we’ll get 5% back each year? I must have missed that somewhere. 

    Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC

  • Mattillo
    Mattillo Member Posts: 6,209 ✭✭✭✭
  • Jonathan Bradley
    Jonathan Bradley Member Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭

    Mattillo said:

    I’m having trouble finding the exact quote on my phone but  see this

    https://community.logos.com/forums/t/223617.aspx?PageIndex=2 

    Sweet! Thank you!

    Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,245

    Okay, thanks for your reply, Graham. I'm still not sure I understand though. When I look at the comparisons between Logos Pro and Logos Max, there is clearly functionality/features present in Max that aren't in Pro. And yet it will be Pro that I will be migrated to. So when you say...

    So you will get all of the current new subscription features without losing anything you currently have through your Connect subscription.

    ... I don't know how I would have all the new subscription features available, like I have had for years with FLC. Is that not correct?

    The way I understand it is that, in terms of new functionality (i.e. that which is currently available through a Premium, Pro or Max subscription) each of the Premium, Pro, Max subscriptions are the same - the only difference is in the books included.

    In the future I expect this will change with new features (as yet unknown to us) being delivered within different tiers.

    So with a combination Pro being "merged" with Connect you will get all the new features as well as continuing to have the features your Connect subscription provided.

    For totally new subscribers, a Pro subscriber would get the recently added new features as well as features included in Logos 10 Silver Feature Set while a Max subscriber would get the recently added new features as well as features included in Logos 10 Full Feature Set.

    Does that make sense / help at all?

  • Tony Walker
    Tony Walker Member Posts: 377 ✭✭

    I’m sorry but my brain is confused (this must be the same part of my brain that is why I can’t play Uno or when I go to the store to get something I call my half 4-6 times to make sure I got everything or can’t play Chess)

    What do I do? Church pays for the highest level I like to have. 

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  • Justin Gatlin
    Justin Gatlin Member, MVP Posts: 2,222

    As a FLC subscriber, I'm not sure how I feel about this. It seems to me that I am going to experience a significant loss in value for what I am paying. Currently, with FLC I have access to all features in the most up-to-date version (L10 until L11) comes out. However, since the migration is not going to move into Logos Max (at least not without spending more money), then I am paying the same amount for less features.

    One way to think about it is that the price of Faithlife Connect has been $100/yr for 8 years, and now the price is going up to $130/yr. That's a 3.3% increase per year. For that very increase in price, they are adding AI features which were science fiction when Logos Now came out and adding a fallback license which we never had before. While they are raising the price, they are continuing to honor my subscription through its renewal date and adding additional features at no extra cost. After that renewal, I am losing the monthly public domain books that I don't really need, but I am gaining a better cashback rate and a storewide discount of 5%. If I don't want to pay the increase, they are introducing a new tier where I can lose a few features but stay at the same price.

    The only extravagant thing Logos could do for me would be to retroactively create a fallback license for those of us who have been on Connect for years, and give us a Logos 10 full feature set. But they have not mistreated me in any way but not doing that and offering a 50% off sale instead.

  • Justin Gatlin
    Justin Gatlin Member, MVP Posts: 2,222

    What do I do? Church pays for the highest level I like to have. 

    Email cs@logos.com and ask to cancel your Logos Max in light of this thread. You will not lose anything right now because Logos Max doesn't have any features yet that are not going to be included in your Logos Now subscription. Then, when they get to the official launch in October(?) and Max starts to get new features you don't have yet, they will send out an email with instructions on how to upgrade. There is no reason to pay for both at once.

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,143

    As a FLC subscriber, I'm not sure how I feel about this. It seems to me that I am going to experience a significant loss in value for what I am paying. Currently, with FLC I have access to all features in the most up-to-date version (L10 until L11) comes out. However, since the migration is not going to move into Logos Max (at least not without spending more money), then I am paying the same amount for less features.

    You don't lose any features as all the new features will be added to your Connect, in addition to some 400 max books that are in Logos Pro. In practice about 150 of those books may be new to you, as some are already in Connect and you will own many of the others.

    Dave
    ===

    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Daniel Jomphe
    Daniel Jomphe Member Posts: 77 ✭✭

    Thanks all - a few months ago, we (Logos Now/Connect subscribers, I think, but their target audience might have been wider and I didn't realize it) were encouraged by Faithlife to upgrade to a Full Feature Set to get ready for the new subscriptions. They also told us there is no danger in waiting until they're done figuring everything out and they're ready to contact us to facilitate our migration (which I decided to do - I love the attention to detail and how Faithlife listens so much to our questions - and though I reach out here now, I know this is still true!)

    Now, they're putting on a nice sale just for this purpose, encouraging us (who own some levels of L10 libraries and a non-FFS) to upgrade to the FFS to make ready. So they don't seem to have changed their language. But OTOH, we Now/Connect subscribers might be quite the rare species, and this language might therefore not be exactly targeting us. After all, it's to give access to the discount price, and we Now/Connect subscribers are already guaranteed access to it.

    Reflecting on the perpetual fallback licenses (love that!), and reading you all here in this thread, I think I can conclude that we, Now/Connect subscribers, are really in a different category that's skimmed upon on the regular marketing pages, such that if we were to skip on the FFS sale and migrate this fall to the Logos Max subscription at the discount price that's guaranteed for us, we would, after two years of such a discounted subscription, inherit all that we're currently missing in our partial ownership of the current FFS. And so, again, I should not fear waiting for Faithlife to contact me about my migration, and I should not feel at all the urge to buy the FFS at its current sale price (considering my intent of subscribing perpetually to Logos Max.)

    With that said, I wish one of the official FAQs confirmed this understanding for us. But again, I know Faithlife won't let us down. They may want to keep it lean on the regular pages but I can only wonder how many of us are completely at peace in the wait. :-)

  • Daniel Jomphe
    Daniel Jomphe Member Posts: 77 ✭✭

    OTOH, this farewell sale seems to include the deepest discounts on libraries ever (if I understand it well), and we don't seem to be able to buy just a library without the associated feature set, like we were used to be able to do. Am I wrong about this? I'm thinking about upgrading to Silver. Based on the earlier post's assumptions, I would want to buy just the Silver library, not the features.

    If it's now only possible to buy the entire package (Library + Features), I would end up paying Faithlife some money for a FS that would eventually become mine as part of a Logos Max perpetual fallback license. OTOH it's not the end of the world to be paying a bit too much to Faithlife, isn't it, since they succeed so well in their mission of changing our lives with all these biblical resources, and they need as much funding as they can get to do it well...

  • Joey Midgett
    Joey Midgett Member Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    I would still like an official answer on this:

    Question about fallback license, not that I plan to just subscribe for two years, but just to make sure in case of unseen circumstances. As a Faithlife Connect subscriber, I own some features but not full, if I subscribe for two years do I keep all the non ai and cloud features, or do I need to purchase the Full Feature Set to be eligible for the fall back license?

    Just trying to figure out what I would gain if I did purchase the full feature set now as opposed to just subscribing and having the fall-back as a backup.

  • Bill
    Bill Member Posts: 391 ✭✭✭

    The good news is that next week, we will be adding all the new subscription features into Connect Essentials and Connect Premiere at no extra cost. (That includes all the different variations of Essentials and Premiere, including "No Library" aka former Logos Now customers.)

    Thank you Mark!

    I'll be moving from Pro early access to Max.

    Too soon old. Too late smart.

  • Mattillo
    Mattillo Member Posts: 6,209 ✭✭✭✭

    Probably a dumb question, but for people who do have it… how do you know it is active? Is there a splash screen or pro logo somewhere? Or just try to access the new features at the end of the week?

  • Joey Midgett
    Joey Midgett Member Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    Mattillo said:

    Probably a dumb question, but for people who do have it… how do you know it is active? Is there a splash screen or pro logo somewhere? Or just try to access the new features at the end of the week?

    There is a splash screen.

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,143

    OTOH, this farewell sale seems to include the deepest discounts on libraries ever (if I understand it well), and we don't seem to be able to buy just a library without the associated feature set,

    If you have tried on the product page and not seen an option to purchase books only I would contact Customer Support.

    Dave
    ===

    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Mark Barnes (Logos)
    Mark Barnes (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 2,004

    Question about fallback license, not that I plan to just subscribe for two years, but just to make sure in case of unseen circumstances. As a Faithlife Connect subscriber, I own some features but not full, if I subscribe for two years do I keep all the non ai and cloud features, or do I need to purchase the Full Feature Set to be eligible for the fall back license?

    There will be some features in the L10 Full Featureset that will probably not be included in the Legacy Fallback License. I'm afraid we don't have the specifics of that yet, but the translation tool will almost certainly be one of them. Print Library is also a feature that is purely Cloud-based, so it's possible that it might be excluded from the fallback license, too.

    The Fallback license is also dependent on your subscription tier. So there will be a Logos Max Fallback, and a Logos Pro Fallback, etc.

    If you intend to subscribe to Logos Pro rather than Logos Max, then there will obviously be lots of existing advanced original language features in the Logos 10 Full Feature Set that wouldn't be in the Logos Pro Legacy Fallback License.

  • Mark Barnes (Logos)
    Mark Barnes (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 2,004

    The way I understand it is that, in terms of new functionality (i.e. that which is currently available through a Premium, Pro or Max subscription) each of the Premium, Pro, Max subscriptions are the same - the only difference is in the books included.

    That is not quite correct. Sermon Assistant is only available in Pro and Max.

     When I look at the comparisons between Logos Pro and Logos Max, there is clearly functionality/features present in Max that aren't in Pro. And yet it will be Pro that I will be migrated to.

    There are significant differences between Pro and Max. Pro is designed for preachers who want intermediate original language datasets and tools. Max is designed for preachers, academics, and others who want advanced original language datasets and tools.

    But, as Graham says, we haven't developed any new advanced original language datasets and tools since L10 was released. Therefore, if you already own the Logos 10 Full Featureset, then the only current difference between Pro and Max is that Max includes an additional 100 books.

    However, that will change over time, as we do have plans to release new advanced original language features that will be exclusive to Logos Max.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,245

    The way I understand it is that, in terms of new functionality (i.e. that which is currently available through a Premium, Pro or Max subscription) each of the Premium, Pro, Max subscriptions are the same - the only difference is in the books included.

    That is not quite correct. Sermon Assistant is only available in Pro and Max.

    Thanks for the clarification Mark

  • Lew Worthington
    Lew Worthington Member Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭

    There will be some features in the L10 Full Featureset that will probably not be included in the Legacy Fallback License. I'm afraid we don't have the specifics of that yet[...]

    Will these specifics be determined by September 6 when the farewell tour comes to an end?

  • Manuel R.
    Manuel R. Member Posts: 368 ✭✭✭

    Thanks for the updates, Mark!

    Did you already figure out whether users can buy the feature-set contained in Logos 10 in the future? I read something the like it will not be possible to buy it separately anymore but if the fallback license doesn't include all of the Logos 10 full feature set in the future, won't there be any possibility to get those features? I think it would make way more sense (and would definitely generate more earnings) if there is a possibility of buying features that are considered base-level (Logos 10 features minus translation and minus offline library).

    Aslo why not give the possibility to buy a 2-year subscription license?

    The fallback license is great but as I understand it, it's mainly for new features. Will there really be no possibility to buy base (mostly offline) features?

    I myself am covered (Logos 10 German and English Full-Features also Verbum Full-Feature as well as Counseling-, Disciple-, Preaching Suite- Premium, Academic Professional, Verbum Academic Professional, German Academic Diamant and also Full-Feature-Sets from previous Logos versions)

    but what about new users that won't have the ability to purchase a Logos 10 FFS?

  • Mattillo
    Mattillo Member Posts: 6,209 ✭✭✭✭

    Mark

    When this gets migrated over, will I be able to look at the new libraries? As of now, I get a red bar that says I need a subscription to look. Thanks

    https://www.logos.com/early-access/libraries 

  • Robert C. Beckman Jr.
    Robert C. Beckman Jr. Member Posts: 110 ✭✭

    Howdy friends. Been, a while since I've posted. Jumped on because my Logos Now/Connect/Cloud needs renewed next week. For me, the central issue is that we're flying blind. I know everyone likes a big release announcement but It seems like many of us are having issues comparing the apples to come with the oranges we have. The plan I'm on now...for 99 American dollars a year guarantees all the latest features of the current release of the program. I need to know what that will cost under the new system. 

  • Justin Gatlin
    Justin Gatlin Member, MVP Posts: 2,222

    I need to know what that will cost under the new system. 

    That's Logos Max. $129/yr.

  • Reid A Ferguson
    Reid A Ferguson Member Posts: 261 ✭✭

    Thanks for the update Mark. Great news. 

  • Armin
    Armin Member Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭

    I am a long-term subscriber of Logos Now, but have been waiting patiently until things have settled with the new Logos subscriptions. 

    Given Mark's comment

    If you are already subscribed to Logos Pro or Logos Premium, we will cancel that subscription for you, as it will no longer be needed. Any outstanding time left on that subscription will be added to your Connect subscription.

    I assume I can already sign up for Logos Pro right now and enjoy the "free month". Whenever FL then transfers my subscription this week (or next week?), it all happens without any additional cost. Is this correct?

  • Joey Midgett
    Joey Midgett Member Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    Armin said:

    I am a long-term subscriber of Logos Now, but have been waiting patiently until things have settled with the new Logos subscriptions. 

    Given Mark's comment

    If you are already subscribed to Logos Pro or Logos Premium, we will cancel that subscription for you, as it will no longer be needed. Any outstanding time left on that subscription will be added to your Connect subscription.

    I assume I can already sign up for Logos Pro right now and enjoy the "free month". Whenever FL then transfers my subscription this week (or next week?), it all happens without any additional cost. Is this correct?

    That would be correct.

  • Mark Barnes (Logos)
    Mark Barnes (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 2,004

    Armin said:

    I assume I can already sign up for Logos Pro right now and enjoy the "free month". Whenever FL then transfers my subscription this week (or next week?), it all happens without any additional cost. Is this correct?

    Yes, if you didn't want to wait a few days, you could do that.

  • Robert C. Beckman Jr.
    Robert C. Beckman Jr. Member Posts: 110 ✭✭

    Will I have access to all the language tools that I have now? Because the allure of Connect was all features. I also note that the quoted price is $350.00 a year, struck through with an additional quote of $129.99 a year. How long will the latter pertain? is it permanent? Virtually no one can afford $350.00 a month subscription. 

  • Jeremy White
    Jeremy White Member Posts: 274 ✭✭

    Hi Mark,

    Reflecting back on what I understand about my specific scenario.

    I currently have FLC No Library, which will not be renewed until early January 2025. So, if I do nothing; at some point this week, I will begin to get access to the Logos Pro features, but on my subscription page, it will still say FLC Connect Essentials - No Library. Then, at some point in the next few months, I will be migrated to the Logos Pro subscription (so when I look at my Subscription page, that is what it will say), and in January, I will pay $99 to continue on that new subscription. Correct any of these details I might have wrong.

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  • Carl Thomas
    Carl Thomas Member Posts: 77 ✭✭

    Well, as a FaithLife Essentials subscriber, I don't really know what is happening BUT it may be that I don't need to buy the full feature upgrade if I plan to stay on a subscription model. 

    However, if I ever plan to stop paying the subscription, if I buy the full feature upgrade now, I won't lose that functionality later. But is that worth $330? That's the question.