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nicky crane | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Sep 26 2010 8:27 AM

Can anyone advise me?  

1.  Can I do Bible study, using commentaries and dictionaries and hebrew and Greek Bibles on i-pad?  If so, this could be very useful as a lightweight computer substitute when away from home.

2.  Can I read books from my library easily on Kindle?  I need largish print.

Can I use both offline?

Do I need both?  

When I return to England, I hope to be able to play with both, but am curious to have some idea before my nexy planned visit to UK in February (Morris Proctor's seminar).

ANy advice gratefully received..  Hmm       

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 26 2010 11:00 AM

Nicky,

Logos is available as an application on the iPad. Right now there is a limitation on how much you can do at one time. For example you cannot read and highlight text at the same time. Kevin Purcell who contributes here has written a couple of reviews of the iPad in Christian Computing Magazine (http://www.ccmag.com/page/index.php?pageid=1 ). You will need to register to access back issues. I believe Kevin was writing on the iPad in May or June. You can download resources onto your iPad and read them offline. I'm not sure how much of the program works offline.

Accessing Logos resources with Kindle apparently is near impossible and those who've done it hate it. Logos does not provide a portal to Kindle which explains the problem. For now it is iPad only. Logos is considering extensions to other platforms but hasn't announced what, if anything, it plans to do next.

I'm sure some of the many iPad users will chime in, but for now you pretty much have to eliminate Kindle from consideration.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 26 2010 11:19 AM

Forum http://community.logos.com/forums/t/21514.aspx has related discussion.

nicky crane:
1.  Can I do Bible study, using commentaries and dictionaries and hebrew and Greek Bibles on i-pad?  If so, this could be very useful as a lightweight computer substitute when away from home.

Can open 1 resource at a time on iPad, which is good for book reading.  Greek and Hebrew display nicely.  Have learned to download 1 resource at a time for offline use (may take several attempts to complete).  Interlinear bibles lack usability on iPad (intermingled text bit hard to decipher).

nicky crane:
2.  Can I read books from my library easily on Kindle?  I need largish print.

Amazon Library = Yes, Logos via web site => http://community.logos.com/forums/p/164/174425.aspx#174425

nicky crane:

Do I need both?

Depends - if reading in bright conditions (e.g. outside), Amazon Kindle and B&N Nook (e-ink) are easier to read.  However, in darker conditions (e.g. inside), iPad easier to read.

Keep Smiling Smile

 

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Bryan O Clements | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 26 2010 2:13 PM

Also remember  thay you can run the Kindle App on the iPad.  I sold my Kindle shortly after buying my iPad.

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 26 2010 2:38 PM

Mark A. Smith:
. Kevin Purcell who contributes here has written a couple of reviews of the iPad in Christian Computing Magazine (http://www.ccmag.com/page/index.php?pageid=1 ). You will need to register to access back issues. I believe Kevin was writing on the iPad in May or June. You can download resources onto your iPad and read them offline. I'm not sure how much of the program works offline.

You might also want to check Kevin's blog for articles on iPad.

http://www.kevinpurcell.org/archives/category/ipad

I don't have either iPad or Kindle, but if I needed to make that choice iPad would win hands down, simply because Logos is developing the app to run on iPad/iPhone and its only going to get better.  What you get on kindle today is likely to likely what you get on kindle tomorrow in terms of true bible study features, highlighting and note taking might improve in a general sense, but what you get on iPad today from Logos you know is going to be even better 'tomorrow'. 

 

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Damian McGrath | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 26 2010 6:39 PM

nicky crane:

Can anyone advise me?  

Nicky,

I would recommend reading Rick Mansfield's excellent review: http://thislamp.com/?p=613. He highlights which elements of the programme are available online or offline.

 

nicky crane:

1.  Can I do Bible study, using commentaries and dictionaries and hebrew and Greek Bibles on i-pad?  If so, this could be very useful as a lightweight computer substitute when away from home.

I have just spent a month on holidays with my only access to my Logos library being through the iPad. I found it an excellent means to access my books. I bought a 16GB wifi only iPad and used a mobile wifi modem to stay connected.

I find the iPad app quite frustrating without access to the internet. It tends to take time to start up and is quite sluggish.

I was writing 3 months worth of Sunday Gospel reflections for a journal. The passage guide is great - I could easily flip back and forward between the PG and my commentaries. I needed at times to run the BWS on various Greek and Hebrew words to find out the other contexts in which the were used and found the iPad BWS to be satisfactory.

Fast app switching will be enabled on the iPad in November. This will allow you to easily move backward and forward between Logos and other Apps. 

My own reflections on using the App to study can be found in the following document:

http://community.logos.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/74/6201.Seriously-Studying-Scripture-on-an-iPad.docx

 

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nicky crane | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 27 2010 2:59 AM

Thank you, everyone, for lots of helpful articles.  It seems that the iPad has it!  Big Smile 

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 27 2010 3:15 PM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
 Interlinear bibles lack usability on iPad (intermingled text bit hard to decipher).

This isn't entirely accurate. It is just hidden a bit. Open a book like ESV with reverse interlinear options and tap and hold a word till the popup shows Rev. Int. info.

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 27 2010 3:17 PM

Thanks for all the references to my work regarding Logos.

Sometime very soon I am going to be doing some video reviews of what I call the Big Four (Logos and three others).

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