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Steve Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 21 2010 7:42 AM

I'm wondering if a Novabench score of about 400 is the minimum needed to run Logos 4.

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Notebook: Dell Precision 4400; Core 2 Duo, 2.5gh; 8Gb RAM; NVIDIA FX 770M w/ 512Mb; Win7 Pro 64-bit; Novabench 510; WEI 5.9

Netbook: MSI Wind 12: Novabench 198; WEI 3.1

 

 

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 21 2010 7:54 AM

 

Steve Johnson:
I'm wondering if a Novabench score of about 400 is the minimum needed to run Logos 4.

Hi Steve

My laptop has a score of 268 and I normally find performance of Logos 4 acceptable

Graham

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Steve Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 21 2010 8:56 AM

So much hinges on expectations...and a spirit of contentment!  Smile

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Notebook: Dell Precision 4400; Core 2 Duo, 2.5gh; 8Gb RAM; NVIDIA FX 770M w/ 512Mb; Win7 Pro 64-bit; Novabench 510; WEI 5.9

Netbook: MSI Wind 12: Novabench 198; WEI 3.1

 

 

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Abi Gail | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 21 2010 9:06 AM

Steve Johnson:

I'm wondering if a Novabench score of about 400 is the minimum needed to run Logos 4.

Steve Johnson:

So much hinges on expectations...and a spirit of contentment!  Smile

It would seem that you just answered your own question.Smile

 

 

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Steve Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 21 2010 12:56 PM

Abi Gail:

It would seem that you just answered your own question.Smile

Touche, Abi Gail!

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Notebook: Dell Precision 4400; Core 2 Duo, 2.5gh; 8Gb RAM; NVIDIA FX 770M w/ 512Mb; Win7 Pro 64-bit; Novabench 510; WEI 5.9

Netbook: MSI Wind 12: Novabench 198; WEI 3.1

 

 

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 21 2010 2:10 PM

Graham Criddle:

 

Steve Johnson:
I'm wondering if a Novabench score of about 400 is the minimum needed to run Logos 4.

Hi Steve

My laptop has a score of 268 and I normally find performance of Logos 4 acceptable

Graham

In which case 300 should be the minimum because I find performance to be OK with 318Wink

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Bill Cook | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 21 2010 5:48 PM

Dave Hooton:

Graham Criddle:

 

Steve Johnson:
I'm wondering if a Novabench score of about 400 is the minimum needed to run Logos 4.

Hi Steve

My laptop has a score of 268 and I normally find performance of Logos 4 acceptable

Graham

In which case 300 should be the minimum because I find performance to be OK with 318Wink

 

Dave:

You reported your Desktop testing at 983. How does it compare in your perception of performance to your laptop? Is it perceptibly 3 times faster?

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Donnie Hale | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 21 2010 7:20 PM

NovaBench Score: 453

Dell Precision M6300 Laptop - perhaps 3 years old.


12/21/2010 10:13:11 PM
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
Intel Core2 Duo T7700 2.40GHz @ 2401 MHz
Graphics Card: NVIDIA Quadro FX 1600M

4095 MB System RAM (Score: 110)
- RAM Speed: 3188 MB/s

CPU Tests (Score: 223)
- Floating Point Operations/Second: 50865964
- Integer Operations/Second: 136925284
- MD5 Hashes Generated/Second: 764934

Graphics Tests (Score: 105)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 328

Hardware Tests (Score: 15)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 112 GB
- Drive Write Speed: 67 MB/s

Logos performs perfectly well for me on this laptop. Note that this is the 3rd of my Logos computer devices (not including my iPod Touch). My other two computers are more powerful than this one.

Donnie

 

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 21 2010 7:29 PM

William J Cook:

Dave:

You reported your Desktop testing at 983. How does it compare in your perception of performance to your laptop? Is it perceptibly 3 times faster?

Searches are about 2-3 times faster (as per L4's time). Full indexing is about 3x faster. The desktop has better response (lag) times on tabs but I have no issue with the laptop's response! The laptop is slower going to/from Reading View but that reflects the speed/RAM of the graphics cards.

Summary: the desktop is objectively 2-3x faster but it's not noticeable when working with documents & resources. However, I can comfortably work with far more open docs & resources on the desktop (4 core vs 2 core, 4 GB RAM vs 2 GB RAM).

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Kevin Nicholas | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 21 2010 7:55 PM

Dell Latitude E6410

Verified NovaBench Score: 600

Test run on December 21, 2010
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate

Intel Intel Core i5 M 540 2.53GHz running at 2534 MHz

Intel HD Graphics GPU

8118 MB System RAM (Score: 165)
- RAM Speed: 6031 MB/s

CPU Tests (Score: 370)
- Floating Point Operations/Second: 102691724
- Integer Operations/Second: 307689076
- MD5 Hashes Generated/Second: 775428

Graphics Tests (Score: 23)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 83

Hardware Tests (Score: 42)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 465 GB
- Drive Write Speed: 126 MB/s

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C. Michael Nath | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 21 2010 8:08 PM

I have a custom built desktop quad-processor that upgraded great from logos 3 to 4 last year, but I HAD TO upgrade my laptop for Logos 4.  I ended up with a Asus laptop that seems to do much better than the Sony Vaio I was on previously.  It just seemed like I was waiting forever with the Sony laptop for the simplest of searches and for the application to boot.

 

NovaBench Score: 547


12/21/2010 11:00:40 PM
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Intel Core2 Duo P8700 2.53GHz @ 2533 MHz
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M

6144 MB System RAM (Score: 134)
- RAM Speed: 3149 MB/s

CPU Tests (Score: 232)
- Floating Point Operations/Second: 50869256
- Integer Operations/Second: 144744896
- MD5 Hashes Generated/Second: 820839

Graphics Tests (Score: 156)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 473

Hardware Tests (Score: 25)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 233 GB
- Drive Write Speed: 90 MB/s

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Debra W Bouey | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 21 2010 8:24 PM

Built my system earlier this year starting from the bare Asus P7P55D-E Pro MoBo up. The only holdover from my old system is the aging graphics card. Hope to replace it sometime next year.

Lenovo P72: Intel 8th Gen i7-8750H 6-core, 32GB RAM, 2TB HDD + 1TB Sata SSD, 17.3" FHD 1920x1080, NVIDIA Quadro P600 4GB, Win 10 Pro

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Dr. Charles A. Wootten | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 22 2010 6:32 AM

I just now discovered this thread. Neat! Someone mentioned earlier that laptops have a different score based on whether it is run on battery or plugged in. It does.

Both of my systems are 64-bit running under Windows 7 Professional.

My laptop is a Toshiba Satellite A505 that I've had for just less than a year.

 

The desktop is a HP e9220y that I've had for over 2 years.

Hope that helps the scores!

{charley}

running Logos Bible Software 6.0a: Collector's Edition on HP e9220y (AMD Phenom II X4 2.60GHz 8.00GB 64-bit Win 7 Pro SP1) & iPad (mini) apps.

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 22 2010 8:08 AM

I'm coming in late also.  My old computer was getting slower every day.  Five years old.  Had to get out before it left me down.

So, BestBuy Canada, was there for me.

Acer i7 - 4 g ram

Much faster than I thought it would be -- I wanted 8 g ram, but it didn't come that way - now I know I don't need 8....    *smile*

Logos4 Just Flies!   Only a few days old and haven't experimented with notes yet.  Peace to all And A Blessed Christmas!

 

Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 22 2010 8:17 AM

hey, my laptop must stink!


12/22/2010 11:15:37 AM
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
AMD Turion X2 Ultra DualCore Mobile ZM80 @ 2100 MHz
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics

2814 MB System RAM (Score: 81)
- RAM Speed: 1822 MB/s

CPU Tests (Score: 171)
- Floating Point Operations/Second: 41467370
- Integer Operations/Second: 116245446
- MD5 Hashes Generated/Second: 495737

Graphics Tests (Score: 18)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 65

Hardware Tests (Score: 16)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 139 GB
- Drive Write Speed: 60 MB/

L4 isn't perfect, but I get along okay!

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Bill Cook | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 22 2010 9:06 AM

Dave Hooton:

William J Cook:

Dave:

You reported your Desktop testing at 983. How does it compare in your perception of performance to your laptop? Is it perceptibly 3 times faster?

Searches are about 2-3 times faster (as per L4's time). Full indexing is about 3x faster. The desktop has better response (lag) times on tabs but I have no issue with the laptop's response! The laptop is slower going to/from Reading View but that reflects the speed/RAM of the graphics cards.

Summary: the desktop is objectively 2-3x faster but it's not noticeable when working with documents & resources. However, I can comfortably work with far more open docs & resources on the desktop (4 core vs 2 core, 4 GB RAM vs 2 GB RAM).

Thanks, Dave. My laptop scored a paltry 260. Probably the most aggravating slowness is in the Passage/Exegetical guide when first performing a search or when opening a saved layout. Once everything is open it is fine. I am just wondering if getting an i7 laptop would make a difference - of course, with dedicated graphics card and 4-6 GB RAM and fast drive - that is, would I be able to perceive it. It sounds like I would..

It also seems that we all have a different perception of what is acceptable in terms of performance. I don't necessarily want a good Novabench score as I do quick performance from L4.

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Steve Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 22 2010 9:47 AM

I am wondering: can we link the Novabench score to an actual Logos benchmark? Months ago I read a thread here about a more or less standardized method to see how fast Logos4 performed, regardless of the size of your collection. It would be nice to see how the Novabench scores link to a Logos-specific task.

Everything would still be subjective: each of us has a different "performance frustration threshhold." But it would be another tool to balance budget and PC specs when looking for new equipment.

Pastor, rural Baptist church

Notebook: Dell Precision 4400; Core 2 Duo, 2.5gh; 8Gb RAM; NVIDIA FX 770M w/ 512Mb; Win7 Pro 64-bit; Novabench 510; WEI 5.9

Netbook: MSI Wind 12: Novabench 198; WEI 3.1

 

 

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Abi Gail | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 22 2010 12:03 PM

This is an entertaining game to play. However it is so easy to overlook the larger picture. Selecting our new machine based solely on how it will run Logos 4 may not be the wisest avenue. Logos evolves, As does everything else in Cyberland. There will undoubtedly be a Logos 5, And I suspect it will require even more computer resources to function. The best I can figure, I spent about 30% more to get "state of the art" components compared to what I deemed "acceptable" to run Logos. I certainly understand budget constraints, But if we have to revisit the "performance frustration threshold" in a few months...and end up throwing more money at it then, What have we saved? If we buy the bare minimum, the machine is running near Max. all the time. If we provide a buffer, It doesn't work so hard, and actually guards against premature extinction. .... MHO ... Take what you can use, Leave the rest.

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Steve Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 22 2010 12:32 PM

I am most fortunate to be at a place in life (empty nest) where I can spend a bit more on PC and software. But I remember well the days when kids, car payments and doctor bills ate up our income, and any PC replacement was a dream. I am happy to spend a bit more now for longer product life. I'm just wondering about the Logos user who is a student, a parent or has kids in college. If you have a cranky PC and needed to replace it on a budget, what should you get that would be satisfactory without forcing you to a ramen noodle diet?

It is a game in a sense. I'm not in the market for a new PC: I purchased one last spring and a netbook last month. But I imagine some prospective buyers are trolling these threads, looking for hints about hardware needs. I am still wondering: what is the real world, base-line computer that is adequate to run Logos 4? Can we link Novabench standards to Logos performance and find a consensus model of what to buy to "get in the door?"

Pastor, rural Baptist church

Notebook: Dell Precision 4400; Core 2 Duo, 2.5gh; 8Gb RAM; NVIDIA FX 770M w/ 512Mb; Win7 Pro 64-bit; Novabench 510; WEI 5.9

Netbook: MSI Wind 12: Novabench 198; WEI 3.1

 

 

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Abi Gail | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 22 2010 1:31 PM

Steve Johnson:
If you have a cranky PC and needed to replace it on a budget, what should you get that would be satisfactory without forcing you to a ramen noodle diet?
 

I too am concerned for the ones who have to decide whether to buy a new toy or eat. To them I would suggest making the best of a bad situation. Typically, the older motherboards and processors will suffice if coupled with a decent graphics card, HD, and adequate ram. All of which are pretty much plug and play. Upgrading these components can greatly improve the experience and still allow one to have Mac and Cheese, instead of Ramen. eBay has a treasure trove of hand-me-downs to consider whilst munching ramen. And tweaking an old system can be another enjoyable game for those on a shoestring.

For those considering a new rig:

Processor -> i5 works well, i7 if one does a lot of multitasking.

Ram -> Windows 7 uses up to 1.5GB at Idle so 4GB is a bare minimum. 6GB would be "adequate." The issue here is that most laptops have 2 slots which requires installing a 4GB and a 2GB stick. Many believe that things work better when installed in pairs. (same amount in both slots) so we are at 8 for the best overall performance.

HD -> Don't scrimp here. Very little cost difference form entry level to a good drive. At least 7,500rpm, 10,000 is better. A little more money provides a quieter,cooler drive, and a noticeable performance boost.

Dedicated Graphics -> One can get by with 512MB, Naturally, you will be happier with 1GB. If you plan to play games, watch movies, or connect an external (or multiple) monitor, a better card is desired. 

Again...MHO

Edit: Full Disclosure: I too have a netbook. Mine scores just a bit under yours. It does well for what it is. When I am sitting by a babbling brook, I can just relax and birdwatch while the netbook sloths through it's searches. If it were my only machine, I fear my lack of patience would show.  

 

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