New Zondervan collections and bundle on Pre-Pub

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Nov 11 2010 6:07 PM

Zondervan is releasing a new series of collections and one super bundle. They are on the pre-pub page with only modest discounting on each collection. The bundle brings all the collections together.

There are some volumes I'd like individually but the collections are not attractive to me. Hopefully they will unbundle them at some time in the near future.

What do you see in these that you think is worth buying?

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Brian W. Davidson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 11 2010 6:27 PM

The only collection I am considering is the Introductions one. These are all solid Introductions to the Old and New Testaments. I have the NT (Moo/Carson) and Gospels one (Strauss) in print, and have read most of them. "Introductions" are truly reference works and perfect for Logos/digital format.

I am really glad to see the Zondervan Exegetical Commentary in Logos format, but those are the only two I want in that collection. I have no interest in the others at all, so I will not be buying that collection.

Similar situation with the Biblical Theology collection. The first two would be great, but I do not want the Kaiser books. So that one is a no go too.

 

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Paul Golder | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 11 2010 6:28 PM

I've heard some good things about the Introduction Series. And the Pre-Pub price is on par with purchasing the volumes individually at street prices.

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Edwin Bowden | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 11 2010 6:32 PM

I was just browsing through the Pre-pub list sorted by ship date and ran across the 6 new Z collections.

I had wondered when more Z titles would become available.

I have been impressed with the Z Exegetical Commentary series.

I would like to have the Counterpoints collection of books with various viewpoints presented.

There are some other titles of interest. I will have to wait closer to a release date to see what my budget will allow. I've got a lot of other things already on my wish list. 

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 11 2010 7:10 PM

These are the individual titles I'm really excited about (and I'm willing to buy the bundles to get them and a few other moderately interesting works):

Bruce Waltke, An Old Testament Theology - outstanding book! If I could own only one book on biblical theology, this would be it. Waltke traces biblical themes such as seed, kingship, land, bride, election, covenant, etc., all the way through the Old Testament and on into the new. He's got several excellent introductory chapters on biblical poetics, intertextuality and so on. He brings his vast knowledge and wisdom to the task, and his writing is clear and engaging. He comes at it from a Reformed perspective, but he doesn't read anything into the text. He lets the Bible speak for itself. I highly recommend this book and am thrilled to see it coming to Logos format! (I suppose I'm somewhat biased. I was Waltke's teaching assistant when he was teaching and developing the material for this book, and I helped him get his notes into shape for the course.)

Bruce Waltke, Genesis - a very readable commentary; the only one I've ever read through from cover to cover. And again by one of my favorite OT scholars.

The "Five Views" and "Four Views" (Counterpoints) series - I'm not familiar with all of them, but the ones I've seen in paper (particularly the one on the Lord's Supper) are very well done and balanced.

Some of the books on hermeneutics are by very well regarded scholars (e.g., Kevin Vanhoozer's Is There a Meaning in This Text? and Introduction to Biblical Hermeneutics by Walter C. Kaiser, Jr., Moisés Silva). I've seen them around in my seminary's bookstore but haven't picked them up, but just the very fact they carry them is an endorsement. The Regent College Bookstore is one of the top theological bookstores in North America.

As for the partial commentary series that are included (Zondervan Exegetical Commentaries, Africa Bible Commentaries, and Swindoll's New Testament Insights) I'd rather they separate these out into their own sets and wait until there are more volumes available before beginning to sell them as bundles. They'll end up being more expensive if we have to buy the rest of them volume by volume as the rest of the series becomes available. I'm not familiar with any of those series anyway, so I wouldn't put them high on my list of must-have commentary sets. It would be intriguing to see one from an African perspective (I have the one-volume Africa Bible Commentary already, though).

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Mathew Voth | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 11 2010 7:47 PM

There are a number of excellent volumes here, though I have to wonder why they would package resources such as the Exegetical commentaries together with Swindoll's commentaries. Surely these are targeted towards two very different groups of people.

Furthermore, why did they not wait for the more recent Exegetical commentaries that have been published (such as Ephesians, and Galatians), and include those with the others?

Finally, it should be pointed out that the vast majority of the covers, authors, etc, are incorrect on the page listing the entire collection.

 

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Simon Pleasants | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 11 2010 9:18 PM

I'm very interested in the Introductions, Biblical theology, and Hermeneutics Collections, but I might wait until they're offered as single volumes.

Does anyone know if the discounts shown are relative to the prices that will be charged after they come off PrePub? I know that in the past some Zondervan books were not offered at discount on PrePub because of the agreement that Logos had with Zondervan. Is that still the case?

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Josh | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 11 2010 9:31 PM

Rosie Perera:

 

As for the partial commentary series that are included (Zondervan Exegetical Commentaries, Africa Bible Commentaries, and Swindoll's New Testament Insights) I'd rather they separate these out into their own sets and wait until there are more volumes available before beginning to sell them as bundles.

 

Agreed, they seemed out of place.

 

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 12 2010 3:46 AM

Joshua Garcia:

Rosie Perera:

 

As for the partial commentary series that are included (Zondervan Exegetical Commentaries, Africa Bible Commentaries, and Swindoll's New Testament Insights) I'd rather they separate these out into their own sets and wait until there are more volumes available before beginning to sell them as bundles.

 

Agreed, they seemed out of place.

 

 

Are the Africa commentary volumes included on the pre-pub a continuation of the already released Africa Commentary currently available in Logos?

 

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SteveF | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 12 2010 7:22 AM

Paul Newsome:
Are the Africa commentary volumes included on the pre-pub a continuation of the already released Africa Commentary currently available in Logos?

As you know the Africa Commentary was a One Volume.

Of these two commentaries on "individual" books, Samuel Ngewa, has again done GAlatians BUT where as Solomon Andria did 1 & 2 Timothy & Titus in the One Volume, now instead  Samuel Ngewa has done theses books as individual commentaries.

Does that clarify or add more confusion?

 

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 12 2010 1:31 PM

Brian Davidson:
I am really glad to see the Zondervan Exegetical Commentary in Logos format, but those are the only two I want in that collection.

Agree with you.  They don't even mix as a collection, other than that they are all "commentaries."  I will not buy the collection as is.

Brian Davidson:
Similar situation with the Biblical Theology collection. The first two would be great, but I do not want the Kaiser books.

I suppose it is just a matter you don't appreciate Kaiser's position?  I, for one, have gained much from his writings.  I think they are well done and have lots to offer.  I think their inclusion is at least understandable in this collection, as compared to the commentaries one.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 12 2010 1:38 PM

Mathew Voth:

There are a number of excellent volumes here, though I have to wonder why they would package resources such as the Exegetical commentaries together with Swindoll's commentaries. Surely these are targeted towards two very different groups of people.

Yeah, that totally didn't make sense to me. The Swindoll commentaries are among the few books in the full collection that I actively do NOT want. Those and most of the World Religions and Cults Collection. I might reconsider my order.

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Scott S | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 12 2010 1:52 PM

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 12 2010 3:21 PM

Paul Newsome:
Africa Bible Commentaries

are you referring to the series that includes Galatians (Hippo / Africa Bible Commentary Series) by Samuel Ngewa? I have the one volume in paper format and would love to see the series in Logos. 

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 12 2010 3:25 PM

I was curious to know if the one volume Africa Bible Commentary was in any way connected to the multi volume Africa Bible Commentaries currently in the Zondervan commentaries bundle.  I gather that the multi volume set expounds on the work of the single volume.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 12 2010 4:07 PM

I don't believe so ... I have the one-volume work and a single volume of the multivolume work - they seem unrelated.

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 12 2010 4:25 PM

MJ. Smith:

I don't believe so ... I have the one-volume work and a single volume of the multivolume work - they seem unrelated.

I guess there's more to purchase then! Wink

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 12 2010 5:12 PM

Mark A. Smith:
What do you see in these that you think is worth buying?

I was pretty excited by this set, and have placed an order. I already have several volumes in print (I've marked them in italics).

Of the mini-sets that make it up, here's my view on them:

  • Commentaries Collection: Waltke on Genesis is a must, Osbourne on Matthew and Blomberg on James promise much, Swindoll I'm not really interested in but may provide useful sermon illustration/application material, Africa Bible Commentaries don't appeal.
  • Biblical Theology Collection: Thielman's NT theology is great for it's book overviews, Waltke I'm looking forward to as he's written some great stuff elsewhere, Kaiser is always worth ready. This is a great collection IMO.
  • Hermeneutics Collection: Kaiser and Silva are too good to miss, Vanhoozer's is a standard work, Grasping God's Word is absolutely phenomenal, Foundations of Contemporary Theology is six books in one and is excellent in parts. Again, I think this is an excellent collection.
  • Counterpoints Collection: I love this series. The apologetics, law and gospel, sanctification, eternal security, moving beyond the Bible, show them no mercy, remarriage, and baptism, books are all contributed to by men I respect and trust. "Show them no mercy", and "Moving beyond the Bible" are particularly good.
  • Old and New Testament IntroductionsLongman and Dillard is a standard reference work, as is Carson and Moo and, to a less extent, Gundry. All of the others look interesting, and I think another excellent set.
  • World Religions and Cults Collection: I'm not familiar with any of these works, so can't really comment.

So, for me, four and a half of these collections are very well worth buying. The price of the first five is $900, so I might as well buy the combined set and get World Religions for free.

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