Article citation
I've just discovered the article citation feature (although it looks like it's been around a long time). Wonderful - at least for the tiny number of resources that have the feature. So, three questions:
- Why have we never discussed this before!?
- Which resources are supported? (I've only found the Expositor's Bible Commentary and Who's Who in Christian History?)
- Are there plans to update other resources with this tagging?
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Let's hope it is done by exception, then ie. Mr Allen contributed a single article whilst the others are covered by the main Citation.and et al!
Dave
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Dave Hooton said:
Let's hope it is done by exception, then ie. Mr Allen contributed a single article whilst the others are covered by the main Citation.and et al!
As you move through the resource, the article citation changes, according to who contributed the section you are reading.
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Mark Barnes said:
As you move through the resource, the article citation changes, according to who contributed the section you are reading.
NAC citation covers the author(s) of the particular Volume. In other resources you get the author's acronym appended to the article. In some you get a big list of contributors up front with/without specific attribution ... This scheme would better recognise contributors, especially if it is printed with the regular citation!?
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Mark Barnes said:
As you move through the resource, the article citation changes, according to who contributed the section you are reading.
I have to confess I am not aware of the Citation feature you are talking about! Can someone elaborate with a screen shot? Thanks!
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Dominick Sela said:
Can someone elaborate with a screen shot?
The screenshot from the first post shows the information panel of a resource. You'll see that article citation as well as the regular citation is included in that particular resource.
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Yeehaw! Bradley says this is going to be done for all resources that specify article authors: http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/1461319-better-citations-for-articles-chapters-from-mult?ref=title. I presume this also means journal articles, and I hope it also means monographs with different authors for each chapter.
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Mark Barnes said:
Which resources are supported? (I've only found the Expositor's Bible Commentary and Who's Who in Christian History?)
Are there plans to update other resources with this tagging?Text Development started adding this data to new resources where individual articles have different authors sometime last year, and it is part of the updating being done to old resources (where it's called for).
Rosie Perera said:I presume this also means journal articles, and I hope it also means monographs with different authors for each chapter.
Yes to both.
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Louis St. Hilaire said:Rosie Perera said:
I presume this also means journal articles, and I hope it also means monographs with different authors for each chapter.
Yes to both.
Yay!!!
I bet Bob and his small company had no idea what long-term maintenance of resources they were taking on back when they first acquired the publishing rights to some of these old resources that have been in Logos's catalog for years. Makes me appreciate the resource prices more, knowing this.
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Rosie Perera said:
Yeehaw! Bradley says this is going to be done for all resources that specify article authors: http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/1461319-better-citations-for-articles-chapters-from-mult?ref=title.
I changed the tense in my response. What I meant was that the support for these citations in the software has (already) been added, but it depends on tagging in the resources (which will come at a different time). I was not making a promise that all resources that have articles by different authors will be updated.
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Could you please explain how to get to this "article citation" feature that you speak of? I can't find it.
Thanks
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It comes from Resource Information (the circled i icon in an open resource). If the resource has been tagged and has articles by differing authors the appropriate article citation will be shown.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Gregory S. Waddell said:
Could you please explain how to get to this "article citation" feature that you speak of? I can't find it.
If you copy text from a resource that has been tagged at the article level (which the Expositor's Bible Commentary has, some of the Encyclopedias, and probably most of the Journals), then paste it into Word or another word-processor (with Copy Footnotes turned on in Logos Program Settings), then the citation that shows up in the footnote will be of the article, rather than the whole book that the selection was copied out of. Try it, and you'll see.
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Rosie Perera said:
If you copy text from a resource that has been tagged at the article level (which the Expositor's Bible Commentary has, some of the Encyclopedias, and probably most of the Journals), then paste it into Word or another word-processor (with Copy Footnotes turned on in Logos Program Settings), then the citation that shows up in the footnote will be of the article, rather than the whole book that the selection was copied out of. Try it, and you'll see.
Rosie,
I got tired of the legion of Scripture footnotes in my Word docs so I turned this feature off. Sometimes I am trying to squeeze as much info as possible on front-back of one page, so this feature - great as it is - in this instance is counter-productive. bUT ... now I see that with thsi turned off, I cannot get more specific info on the citation. What to do ... what to do. Maybe I will turn ON the feature and just manually condense or delete anything that might be extraneous.
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Ron Corbett said:
I got tired of the legion of Scripture footnotes in my Word docs so I turned this feature off. Sometimes I am trying to squeeze as much info as possible on front-back of one page, so this feature - great as it is - in this instance is counter-productive. bUT ... now I see that with thsi turned off, I cannot get more specific info on the citation. What to do ... what to do. Maybe I will turn ON the feature and just manually condense or delete anything that might be extraneous.
You could leave the feature turned on, and then for copying Scripture, you could use Copy Bible Verses with a CBV style that turns off footnote copying (any style with the global formatting flag %NoFootnotes included in the style definition; create your own if necessary). Then when you copy other things like text from books or articles, where you'd want a proper citation, you'll have it.
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Thanks Rosie,
I went in to the CBV tool and made the change. This should work better for me.
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I know this is true as I have tried it with Journals. The problem is that it never copies all the information needed for a citation. For example, it leaves out the article author! That's kind of important I would think. Here is what happened when I copied a paragraph from one of the journals:
Some mean by ecumenicalism that we must get every Christian to unite with every other Christian, or every church to unite with every other church in one great organization. Some of us do not share that view. What is profoundly needed, however, is for the Church to have what Paul wrote about to the Ephesian church (Eph. 4): “The unity of the Spirit.” Union is one thing; unity another.
, vol. 1, Ashland Theological Journal Volume 1 (Ashland, OH: Ashland Theological Seminary, 1968), 15.Note that there is no mention of the author.
My issue came up however in reading Thomas Aquinas' Summa Theologica. I'm trying to read through it and occasionally I want to save a quote or send a quote to a friend. When I copy a passage from that work, here's what happens:
The relation between a science and its object is the same as that between a habit or faculty and its object.
Saint Thomas Aquinas and Fathers of the English Dominican Province, Summa Theologica, Complete English ed. (Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2009).At least I get the author this time, but no reference to the book, section, etc.
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Please help. I'm SO FRUSTRATED with this program, but want to use it. I am reading a book in Logos and highlighting text, then copying it to Word. It is filling up the pages in word with footnotes which are all the SAME because the copied text is all from the same book. I can't delete the footnotes from Word. Pretty soon the whole page will be footnotes and there won't be room for anymore text. I read in the forum about changing "settings" but don't know where to do that, either. I'm a total newbie to Logos and not proficient with forums, either, so don't even know how to get your answer. I guess I'll go to forums, type in "footnotes" and hope I can find your answer. THANKS.
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These screen shots may help
In addition, you may want to review this wiki page http://wiki.logos.com/Program_Settings
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Pat Whittemore said:
Please help. I'm SO FRUSTRATED with this program, but want to use it. I am reading a book in Logos and highlighting text, then copying it to Word. It is filling up the pages in word with footnotes which are all the SAME because the copied text is all from the same book. I can't delete the footnotes from Word. Pretty soon the whole page will be footnotes and there won't be room for anymore text. I read in the forum about changing "settings" but don't know where to do that, either. I'm a total newbie to Logos and not proficient with forums, either, so don't even know how to get your answer. I guess I'll go to forums, type in "footnotes" and hope I can find your answer. THANKS.
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In Word, wonder about highlighting footnote # (after the pasted text), then delete footnote # ?
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