Reviewing the High Definition Commentary: Philippians

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Apr 16 2011 12:54 PM

 

Having taken a look at the commentary briefly, now that it has unlocked and downloaded.... I like it.

It is brief, and I haven't read all of the text (but did read a good portion of it.)  Steve's conversational style leaks out in a positive sense and the summaries, while not overly deep regarding some aspects of Philippians which merit deep study - the commentary accomplishes well what it set out to do.

It very briefly and powerfully summarizes in both text and graphics the primary themes and the overall big picture of the book.

I definitely appreciate the way the graphics are available in both 4:3 as well as 16:9 ratio - that's a great little addition and I hope to see more of the same.

I intend to look more closely at the book in the coming weeks as I go over it in my Philippians studies but right out of the gate I'm going to give this one a thumbs up.  Yes

It has definitely whet my appetite for the High Definition Commentary: Romans

Your thoughts?

 

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steve clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 16 2011 12:56 PM

Thomas Black:
Your thoughts?

Why not add your review to the new Logos Resource Reviews

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 16 2011 1:01 PM

steve clark:

Thomas Black:
Your thoughts?

Why not add your review to the new Logos Resource Reviews

Good reminder Steve it's underway... Completed:

Resource: High Definition Commentary:Philippians

 

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Robert Mullen | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 16 2011 1:06 PM

Thomas Black:
Your thoughts?

I find it interesting but given the cost and what I get out of the book I decided to cancel my prepub order of Romans. If it were $39.95 or less I probably would have kept it. I understand that creating all these graphics and coordinating the author's thoughts with those graphics is a large undertaking. For my personal study though the value just isn't there.

I do hope Logos continues on with these out of the box efforts though.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 16 2011 11:00 PM

Thomas Black:
Your thoughts?

I have very mixed feelings. It is an excellent "proof of concept" for graphic representation in Biblical interpretation. The graphics are very clean, clear and professional. However, I'm not sure that I'm comfortable with heavens, on earth, under earth where "under" is inside of earth. For teens, perhaps, but adults should be able to see the scripture in it's context.So perhaps some graphics are over-simplifications.

And the commentary itself falls into what I'd refer to as a devotional commentary i.e. equivalent to the Devotional Commentary series from The Word Among Us or The Message series from Michael Glazer in the 70's & 80's.  I had not read "popular commentary" in the same sense as "popular literature" so I had false expectations as to the level of the commentary. I think it works for the intended audience and that it provokes possibilities for other audiences.

Net results: Mixed feelings but I'm in for another volume.

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John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 17 2011 7:02 AM

The commentary is designed to be what I would consider "specialized". It should be supplementary to other commentaries as its focus is on discourse and graphical presentation of such. It is very well done for what it is designed to do and complements the other discourse resources well. I was going to pass on these due to the cost/content ratio, but decided to try one of them. They appear to be basic, but the idea is to take the more complex and make it more easily understandable. It does a good job meeting this goal. Teachers and Pastors will find the graphics helpful in communicating ideas and concepts to their students.

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Vicki Hauser | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 17 2011 12:08 PM

I was anxiously awaiting it to download, but it never did.  I've tried everything to be able to access it to no avail.  Any suggestions?

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 18 2011 1:35 AM

Vicki,

it's beneficial when you elaborate more on the part of

Vicki Hauser:
 I've tried everything to be able to access it to no avail.

I assume, logging into Logos with your usual email-address you find the HiDef Commentary under your account somewhere. If not, the Logos licence database doesn't know that you should have one - that's probably time for a call to Customer Service.

Now some users told that shipment of resources due on Friday or the weekend may be delayed to Monday. Do you find the HiDef Commentary under Open Pre-Pub Orders with a status like "ships yesterday" (was the status of it prior to its arrival on my machine) or "ships 4/16" ?

Then it is still open and most probably will be processed by a Logos employee during US Pacific Time working ours (still some hours away, be patient).

Or do you find the HiDef Commentary under your account under Order History and if you click on the order number it looks like this

Then it should be ready for download. Most often all you need to do is close the Logos 4 software and reopen it - it will then download the resource in the background (progress can be seen in the Hidden Icons on a Windows PC). That's assuming you are using the software's standard settings that it is always online and automatically updates everything - verify here:

 

Technical problems in your internet connection might disturb that. The Logos gurus here on the forum can walk you through the software's logging features, that show them whether Logos started to try downloading the resources and ran into error or what else happened.

You can try to load the Logos 3/Libronix resource (if you also own the previous version of Logos) - does this work?

Summary: The forum experts in many cases will be able to help you - the more information you give about the specific situuation you are in, what you already tried to do and what the system tells you, the better.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 22 2011 9:42 AM

I have just had the opportunity to read through the whole commentary and reflect on it.

As noted above - and explained in its introduction - it does try and present the big picture while providing key details. As Steve Runge says:

"But what I really want is a commentary that gives you the details you need without losing sight of the big picture."

I found it very useful, particularly the way he uses discourse analysis to break down some of the key ideas and present them in a clear form. 

This is my first real exposure to the use of discourse analysis techniques and I found it a great introduction as well as providing some useful insights into Philippians and a deeper understanding of what Paul was saying when he wrote it.

(Some of the discourse-analysis based resources have been on my wish list for some time and this resource just confirms this)

Steve - if you read this thread - thanks very much for this resource.

Graham

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Steve Runge | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 22 2011 10:10 AM

Graham,

Thanks for the feedback. The HDC is not intended to replace other commentaries, but instead to complement them by focusing on an area that is often overlooked: the flow and development of the text. If you read between the lines--especially in consultation with the LDGNT-HDNT--you have the cliff notes for a fuller discourse analysis.

I have hired some folks in the last few weeks (details forthcoming) to help out on the discourse projects, so this should accelerate production of the projects currently on prepub, and pave the way for more in the future.

Have a blessed Easter,

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 22 2011 12:36 PM

Thanks Steve

Steven Runge:
The HDC is not intended to replace other commentaries

Absolutely - I ended up consulting a few others when going through this

Steven Runge:
I have hired some folks in the last few weeks (details forthcoming) to help out on the discourse projects, so this should accelerate production of the projects currently on prepub, and pave the way for more in the future.

This is good news!

Steven Runge:
Have a blessed Easter,

And you

Graham

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 22 2011 12:42 PM

Vicki Hauser:
I was anxiously awaiting it to download, but it never did.  I've tried everything to be able to access it to no avail.  Any suggestions?

Vicki,

Some people reported issues downloading this resource on Macs. There's a workaround here: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/32368/241637.aspx#241637

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 18 2011 5:26 AM

I like the commentary, simple and to the point (but as stated before you need to use other commentaries to supplement it).  

One thing though, the slides won't copy to Word or Power point.  Have any of you been having the same issue?

 

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DAL | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 18 2011 5:33 AM

Douglas Alvarenga:

One thing though, the slides won't copy to Word or Power point.  Have any of you been having the same issue?

 

DA

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