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David Strawn | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, May 29 2011 8:29 AM

I use a Sony reader that likes the open epub format as well as anything in pdf. Will the new Vyrso books be in epub or only some dedicated format that can be read on an apple device? Anyone really know?

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Tobias Lampert | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 29 2011 8:46 AM

David Strawn:
I use a Sony reader that likes the open epub format as well as anything in pdf. Will the new Vyrso books be in epub or only some dedicated format that can be read on an apple device? Anyone really know?

Vyrso books have the same proprietary file format like books sold specifically for Logos - it's just the marketing that's different, since Vyrso is for trade books only.

[Edit:] That means you will be able to read Vyrso books with the Vyrso apps on iPhone/iPad, the Android app that's under development right now and in Logos 4 on PC/Mac, but not on a Sony reader, Kindle reader etc.

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David Strawn | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 29 2011 8:49 AM

What a waste of time and energy

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Tobias Lampert | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, May 29 2011 8:55 AM

David Strawn:
What a waste of time and energy

Why?

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Ken Kimberley | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 31 2011 12:30 PM

iIs a waste of time because it is so limited and not available in epub which is quickly becoming the industry standard for ebook readers.  it's the only format I purchase books in - including Christian books.

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David Strawn | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 31 2011 12:39 PM

Exactly the point. I can already open and read any of my current Logos books on my desktop and/or laptop but the only way I can read them in my ebook reader is an extremely circuitous conversion that may or may not be 100% in accord with copyright laws. If Logos is only going to sell books through Vyrso that can be read inside the Logos software, why bother. A number of the books I saw on their web page are already available in epub from other vendors. I'll buy from them!

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David Strawn | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 31 2011 1:02 PM

I LOVE my Logos system. It does stuff for me in Bible study that nothing else can begin to approach. I am a Logos apostle trying to covert others to using their system.

This Vyrso bookstore just doesn't make sense. If I had an IPad, or IPhone, etc. I could buy the epub version of these books and read them on that device without downloading the Logos reader and paying more for the Logos version. Here's a screen capture from another retailer listing several Beth Moore books available in epub instead of just the one volume in Logos' dedicated format. Like I said it seems like a waste of time and energy.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 31 2011 1:13 PM

David -

Are you telling me that if you purchase a NOOK book, you can read it through the Kindle reader? Are you telling me that if you by a KINDLE book, you can read it through iBooks on the iPad? It is my understanding that the answer to all of these questions is no. Do they not each have their own proprietary formats?

Either way, the reason I am excited about Vyrso is because there are many "trade" books that I would want in Logos. 

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 31 2011 1:35 PM

David Strawn:
Like I said it seems like a waste of time and energy.

...not (waste) for me. I see quite big potential in Vyrso.

Bohuslav

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David Strawn | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 31 2011 1:48 PM

Amazon has established their proprietary format for the Kindle (which is one reason I don't have one) but virtually all the other readers (including the IPad) will read the open epub format. There is even a way to convert epubs so Kindle will read them. (DRMs are a whole different issue) Virtually anything that's available from Amazon for Kindle is also available in epub from one or more of the dozens of online epub bookstores.

Glad you are excited to get trade books in Logos. I prefer to read books like that in my ereader.

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 31 2011 2:01 PM

alabama24:
Are you telling me that if you by a KINDLE book, you can read it through iBooks on the iPad?

 

this is actually a yes with the amazon kindle app for the iPad/Touch/Phone

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 31 2011 2:04 PM

David - 

I don't mean to be argumentative, but "the iPad" doesn't read ANY books - only the apps can. Is there a quick and easy way to get these books you are talking about into 1) iBooks 2) Kindle reader 3) Nook Reader? These three apps download books directly from 1) Apple 2) Amazon and 3) Barnes & Noble. As far as I know, they are not interchangeable. I do know that there are other readers, but these are the "big three." 

By the way, the "trade books" that I want in Logos would be books by authors like Andy Stanley; John Maxwell; Francis Chan; Craig Groeshell; David Platt; Dave Ramsey, etc. These books have value in planning sermon series, etc. As far as I am concerned, the novels can be Left Behind... Smile

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Skycaptain50 | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 31 2011 2:11 PM

Actually, since all these apps are free on the Ipad, that's not really an issue. The books are still cheaper than what I've seen on Vyrso, and right now you can highlight and make notes, too! I'm with one of the previous posters--I don't see any reason for me to use Vyrso.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 31 2011 2:17 PM

Paul Newsome:

alabama24:
Are you telling me that if you by a KINDLE book, you can read it through iBooks on the iPad?

 

this is actually a yes with the amazon kindle app for the iPad/Touch/Phone

 

Paul -

I think you misunderstand. iBooks is an Apple made/developed app which is separate from the Kindle app. I do not think that Kindle books can be read on the iBooks app, but as you mentioned, you can read them on the Kindle app for iPad. 

It is my understanding that Kindle books can only be read on Kindle devices OR Kindle apps. Likewise for Nook Books & Apple's own iBooks.

 

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 31 2011 2:49 PM

David Strawn:

I use a Sony reader that likes the open epub format as well as anything in pdf. Will the new Vyrso books be in epub or only some dedicated format that can be read on an apple device? Anyone really know?

David,

somehow I don't get your argument. You claim in this thread that ePub is THE format for ebooks - then imho it would be waste of energies if Logos tried to sell ePub formatted books, since this is already there. Why would anyone buy an ePub-book from Logos and read it on any ePub reader, if there are several booksellers in the market that sell these? I don't see any incentives for Logos, the publishers or any customers to do this.

On the other hand, there seem to be users that like to have trade books in Logos format (with all the search etc capabilites of Logos desktop) and to have trade books as well as Logos resources on a mobile reader application, allowing for some minimal functionality such as bible-reference pop-ups. This also has the potential to market Logos to other customers that didn't know of its existence - looks like a much more promising, mutually benefitting business case for me. If you want to buy the cheapest you can get no matter of format, you may end up at another place than Logos - but that's no news.

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 31 2011 9:26 PM

alabama24:
As far as I am concerned, the novels can be Left Behind... Smile

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Rick Koelz | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 1 2011 11:37 AM

But if you buy Beth Moore's books in the Logos/Vyrso format it will be index by the Logos software/system and you can search on any topic over all her books.  For me the big advantage of Vyrso is this indexing and searching capability.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 1 2011 11:55 AM

Yes

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TomB | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 3 2011 3:51 PM

Kindle has its own format... Nook, Sony, Kobo, Google, & Public Libraries all use the same format.

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TomB | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 3 2011 3:56 PM

Get a nook color from Barnes and Noble and then root (unlock) it. you will then be able to download the Vyrso app  (IF IT EVER COMES OUT FOR ANDROID).

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