Can anyone confirm if the 3 Socio-Rhetorical Commentaries by Ben Witherington from the latest IVP New Testament Studies Collection (15 vol.) are a part of Witherington's original Socio-Rhetorical Commentary Series? If so why lock them in a collection? I hate to be Baggio about this , but could the 3 vol. be bundled together and sold?
Wow, that's what it looks like. That's a sad thing. By Christmas I might purchase the 8 vol. set and would've loved to add the other 3 without having to buy this other books.
are a part of Witherington's original Socio-Rhetorical Commentary Series
The original Socio-Rhetorical Commentary was published by Eerdmans. While as you can see, the Socio-Rhetorical Commentary currently on Pre-Pub is published by IVP.
Same author, same writing style but different publishers.
Ted
Nice info Ted! I knew something like this had to be the issue. The collection seems worth the purchase. It notes on the collection's page that we may own two of the volumes already. I own Scholar's Platinum and do not have them in Logos. Where would they have come from?
Where would they have come from?
They've never been part of a collection to my knowledge. I have Marshall, but not daSilva which is slightly annoying.
Where would they have come from? They've never been part of a collection to my knowledge. I have Marshall, but not daSilva which is slightly annoying.
The 2010 Christmas Master Collection included 4 of the 8 volumes from the Socio-Rhetorical Commentary Collection. But It did not have either of the two volumes removed from the IVP New Testament Studies Collection (15 vols.) to make the 13 volume upgrade.
I own both already. I bought both as stand-alone resources on July 17, 2007. They must have both been released at the same time and caught my attention the same day.
The thing that confuses me is if I click on the link to the IVP New Testament Studies Collection Upgrade (13 vols.) in the message about if we already own those two books, it takes me right to the checkout with that upgrade in my cart. However what if I just want to look at the upgrade description? I then tried clicking on the link to it from within my cart and got an error saying "That is not a product we currently sell" (URL: http://www.logos.com/product/9682/ivp-new-testament-studies-collection-upgrade).
Confusing enough that I've asked my sales rep to find out of there's a problem that needs to be fixed on the website. I'm hesitant to order it unless I'm confident that I will actually receive the upgrade when the full 15-volume bundle ships. I'll post a follow-up here when I find out what he discovers about this.
I thought I would follow up with some items of note on the IVP New Testament Studies Collection (15 vols.) that released today:
Of the 15 books there are 3 commentaries and 12 monographs
The 3 Letters and Homilies volumes are tagged as the commentaries and also tagged under the series "Letters and Homilies". I prioritized them under my Socio-Rhetorical Commentary Series because other than the book of Hebrews there is no book of the Bible overlap between the two.
There is another series represented series tagged, "The Indelible Image", with two volumes beginning with "The Indelible Image..." in their title. These monographs are also written by Ben Witherington III
Lastly I noticed the Eerdmans SRCS labels the author's name under the author tag as:
Witherington III, Ben
Where the IVP collection tags his name as:
Witherington, Ben, III
Would this affect any author searches or is it not of importance?
Don't know why they had to tag the "III" part unless his Dad, Grandfather, or Son were a writer. [:)]
I think having the designation in two different forms could effect searching by tags. I don't know for sure...
Don't know why they had to tag the "III" part unless his Dad, Grandfather
It likely reflects the author's preference to use the III. I kept trying to get one of my son's friends to use the XXVII which was part of his legal name ... especially since there is no XXVIII [:)]
I suspect most people would take the short cut of searching just for the last name in which case it doesn't matter.
The thing that confuses me is if I click on the link to the IVP New Testament Studies Collection Upgrade (13 vols.) in the message about if we already own those two books, it takes me right to the checkout with that upgrade in my cart. However what if I just want to look at the upgrade description? I then tried clicking on the link to it from within my cart and got an error saying "That is not a product we currently sell" (URL: http://www.logos.com/product/9682/ivp-new-testament-studies-collection-upgrade). Confusing enough that I've asked my sales rep to find out of there's a problem that needs to be fixed on the website. I'm hesitant to order it unless I'm confident that I will actually receive the upgrade when the full 15-volume bundle ships. I'll post a follow-up here when I find out what he discovers about this.
Rosie, over a month after your post, the same thing still seems to be going on. I missed this thread back then, and am now seeing it and wondering if I owned those two volumes before I purchased the collection. I guess I will contact a sales guy directly.
Posted => Suggestion: Socio-Rhetorical Commentary Series Expansion
that includes Paul’s Letter to the Philippians: A Socio-Rhetorical Commentary (currently in pre-publication)
The IVP New Testament Studies Collection (15 vols.) shipped yesterday.
Keep Smiling [:)]
KS4J,
The new "Letters and Homilies" volumes in the IVP set have their own "Letters and Homilies" series tag.
btw I just shot Dr. Witherington an e-mail asking him if these two series' are essentially driving at the same purpose or do they focus on different aspects of Socio Rhetorical analysis.
