Hey there, I'm thinking of purchasing the "Scholar's Library" edition of Logos.
1) Are the Hebrew resources adequate?
2) If not, should what resources should I look into for better, beefier Hebrew resources?
Thanks!
Are the Hebrew resources adequate?
Adequate for whom?
How well do you know Hebrew? What will you use Logos for? What are your expectations?
don't have any background in Hebrew. This next semester I'll be taking "Classical Hebrew" at the junior level. I guess I just wondering if the software was adequate for all things translation, interpretation, explanation, morphology, etc??
What do you think of the Original Languages Library?
You'll get Gesenius and the Concise HALOT. It is also cheaper.
Of course, you lose a lot, too, when buying the OLL. I strongly recommend getting the Lexham Hebrew Interlinear bible. Although you get the reverse interlinears of many English bibles in nearly all of the base packages, there is a significant weakness in these--they present the Hebrew out of order. A reverse interlinear is better than nothing, but if you want to develop a sense of the language you are learning, seeing it in its proper order is priceless. So I would get the best/biggest package you can afford, and also get LHI. Since LHI is about a hundred bucks by itself, it probably makes sense to get the first package that contains it, because you will almost pay that much anyway if you buy it separately--plus you get all the other resources that come with the larger package. It may be more than you want to spend, but it is well worth it.
That said, I will paraphrase what George says so often here--don't trust any interlinear. Always dig deeper. Any bible resource can have mistakes and prejudices. LHI can be wrong. Strong's can be wrong. HALOT can be wrong. Commentaries can be wrong, and often are. The Mishna and Talmud can be wrong, and often are. Double check EVERYTHING. Never assume that because something confirms your first inclination that it therefore RIGHT. And as the saying goes, consume your Biblically-related information the way you would a piece of fish: chew carefully, swallow the meat, spit out the bones.
Shaalohm and good study.
Logos offers academic discounts; upgrading to Scholar's Gold includes United Bible Societies (UBS) Handbooks with translation plus cross-cultural insights.
Logos has many Product Guides => http://www.logos.com/products/guides
Looking at Logos comparison chart => http://www.logos.com/comparison noted Original Languages includes more than Scholars in "Original Language Grammars and Tools" and "Original Language Lexicons"; yet Scholar's Gold package includes all of Original Languages plus much more. Also noted LHI (Lexham Hebrew–English Interlinear) is included in Original Languages, then Scholar's Gold and above.
Personally like interlinear coding for showing transliteration plus Strong's numbers (and Louw-Nida numbers in New Testament). Have prioritized my lexicons so right click, then lemma shows lexicons without Strong's number, if click Strong's number, have a different list of lexicons. Concur with George about avoiding English in interlinear resources when focus is learning original language. Often English lacks literal one to one range of meaning with Greek and Hebrew; displaying English literal translation (or lexical value) hinders learning of Greek and Hebrew. While learning original language vocabulary, one English word for original language is deceptive since range of word meaning is often different.
While doing some word studies, learned AFAT tagging of Hebrew homographs sometimes has same English word translation, which seems bit odd since homographs typically have different range of word meaning.
Personally dreaming about a Hebrew lexicon that would include prepositions as part of lemma for definitions. Prepositions do affect range of word meaning, but Hebrew lexicons have definitions grouped by root lemma (preposition usage lumped together).
Since Scholar's Platinum includes BDAG, Advanced Hebrew Supplement (11 vols.) is an attractive bundle that includes HALOT.
Logos also has couple video products => Learn to Use Biblical Greek and Hebrew with Logos Bible Software and Learn to Do Word Studies with Logos Bible Software
By the way, can download free PDF => Greek and Hebrew Paradigm Charts
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He is only a beginner. He needs a good text a lexicon and a grammar. If he wants to expand he can always do that later. He is a student. Money must be sparse. Even I don't own Platinum...
He is only a beginner. He needs a good text a lexicon and a grammar.
Matt: If all you're studying is Hebrew, then Original Languages would be a good buy . But if you're also studying theology or the Bible more widely, and you want commentaries and other helps as well, then it's worth considering some of the Scholar's options (though I definitely agree with the advice to get a package that includes the Hebrew interlinear - that will be a real help to you as you learn, which means Original Languages, or Scholar's Gold or above). David's advice is also good - if you buy a cheaper package now, you can 'upgrade' it later for not much more than the difference between the two packages.
I definitely agree with the advice to get a package that includes the Hebrew interlinear - that will be a real help to you as you learn, which means Original Languages, or Scholar's Gold or above
If you get a package which includes an interlinear, be sure to hide it immediately. An interlinear is a scourge which will hinder your learning of the language.
A lot of people are able to use interlinears AND learn hebrew by carefully taping scotch tape over the glosses.
Hope you solve your notes problem.
A lot of people are able to use interlinears AND learn hebrew by carefully taping scotch tape over the glosses. Hope you solve your notes problem.
Thanks, but scotch tape wouldn't work. It would need to be masking tape.
I definitely agree with the advice to get a package that includes the Hebrew interlinear - that will be a real help to you as you learn, which means Original Languages, or Scholar's Gold or above If you get a package which includes an interlinear, be sure to hide it immediately. An interlinear is a scourge which will hinder your learning of the language.
:-) I was waiting for that. :-)
I went originally to the Scholar's Library:no matter what your intentions are it really is one of the best places to begin. If you need to add something afterwards, that's fine or you can dive in and move up to a bigger package upgrade. Hebrew doesn't exist in a vacuum from the full counsel of God.
As an M.Div. student at Moody Theological Seminary we are required to have Scholars plus the BDAG/HALOT Bundle. Upgrading to Scholar's Silver is highly recommended and the Lexham Greek bundle (6 vol) was required for Greek 3. What resources are adequate for you will depend upon how your professors integrate technology into their pedagogical methods.
