Perseus Collection Overwhelms Library

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Charley Hailey | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Sep 29 2011 9:23 AM

I am a daily user of Logos 4.  I love it.  The Perseus collection can overwhelm my Logos Library of 1,360 books, especially when using my ipad or iphone.  Is there a way to download this collection in a separate folder so it can be accessed as desired and not always available when I am doing my daily work in Logos?  The separate folder is the only idea I could imagine.  If I download the whole library, it would take a very long time to put this collection in other collections.  Thanks for any help.

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DominicM | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 29 2011 9:30 AM

if you were using PC/MAC would suggest either using the rating stars, or set a tag, then you can filter the perseus out easily when searching n stuff

You can do nothing about the titles showing in iphone/ipad AFAIK

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 29 2011 9:30 AM

The best way I can think of is that when you want a clean library, either on PC or mobile app, type in rating:>=0 ANDNOT perseus. or, after doing this, select all resources displayed by pressing CTRL+A, and tag everything with something like "nper" (stands for Non-Perseus). Then when you get overwhelmed with perseus in the future all you have to do is type in "nper" to limit your library.

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DominicM | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 29 2011 9:34 AM

does tagging work with ipad Phil?

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 29 2011 9:39 AM

Yes. At least it does on my Ipod Touch.

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Hapax Legomena | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 29 2011 9:47 AM

I have ordered only those resources which I feel will add to my Bible study library.  I have passed on the others.

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DominicM | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 29 2011 9:47 AM

cool never knew that

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 29 2011 10:25 AM

Charley, as others have said, this is probably where tagging will have its most usefulness.  With Perseus, the days of manually scrolling through many people's libraries is somewhat over.  Then again if you had a large library before Perseus, it is no different.  Tagging and rating books would be your best bet for navigating your book list.  If you have time to explore collections, they help you get to a set of books quickly for more specific study.

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Paul-C | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 29 2011 11:34 AM

BradN:

I have ordered only those resources which I feel will add to my Bible study library.  I have passed on the others.

Me too.  As tempting as it is to have American Civil War documents on Logos, I have opted to keep my Library pure. Smile

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Paul-C | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 29 2011 11:54 AM

Please forgive my ignorance, but is the Duke Databank of Documentary Papyri from the Perseus collection likely to add much to the study of the Bible.  I'm wavering as to whether to download it given it's free, but don't really want to download something I'm not likely to use.  All views will be appreciated!


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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 29 2011 1:50 PM

I signed up for all of it. You never know what gems will be in there. For instance, there could be good illustration in the Civil war stuff for passages dealing with slavery. It can help to compare the slavery of Paul's day with the slavery most familiar to us. e.g.

"In the neighborhood in which I lived was an old and much respected clergyman who was called upon to preach a sermon on a day of some national significance. He made it the occasion for a florid panegyric upon American institutions, which, he declared, assured freedom to all men. Here he paused, “When I spoke of all men enjoying freedom under our flag,” he resumed, “I did not, of course, include the Ethiopians whom Providence has brought to our shores for their own good as well as ours. They are slaves by a divine decree. As descendants of Ham, they are under a curse that makes them the servants of their more fortunate white brethren.” Having thus put himself right on the record, he proceeded with his sermon. No one seemed to take exception to what he said.

In the same neighborhood was a young preacher who had shortly before come into it from somewhere farther North. In the course of one of his regular services he offered up a prayer in which he expressed the hope that the good Lord would find a way to break the bands of all who were in bondage. That smacked of Abolitionism and at once there was a commotion. The minister was asked to explain. This he declined to do, saying that his petition was a matter between him and his God, and he denied the right of others to question him. That only increased the opposition, and in a short time the spunky young man was compelled to resign his charge.

About that time there appeared a lecturer on slavery — which meant against slavery — who carried credentials showing that he was a clergyman in good standing in one of the leading Protestant denominations. In our village was a church of that persuasion, whose pastor was not an Abolitionist. As in duty bound, the visiting brother called on his local fellow-laborer, and informed him that on the following day, which happened to be Sunday, he would be pleased to attend service at his church. On the morrow he was on hand and occupied a seat directly in front of the pulpit; but, notwithstanding his conspicuousness, the home minister, who should, out of courtesy, have invited him to a seat in the pulpit, if to no other part in the services, never saw him. He looked completely over his head, keeping his eyes, all through the exercises, fixed upon the back pews, which happened, on that occasion, to be chiefly unoccupied.

Such incidents, of themselves, were of no great importance. Their significance was in the fact that they all occurred on the soil of a free State. They showed the state of feeling that then and there existed.

 

John F. Hume, The abolitionists together with personal memories of the struggle for human rights

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 29 2011 1:54 PM

Paul Clarke:
Please forgive my ignorance, but is the Duke Databank of Documentary Papyri from the Perseus collection likely to add much to the study of the Bible.  I'm wavering as to whether to download it given it's free, but don't really want to download something I'm not likely to use.  All views will be appreciated!

From the description on Logos I would say its value is in 1) Greek word studies 2) gaining a greater understanding of the culture in which Paul and the Apostles preached.

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Joe | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 29 2011 3:20 PM

So, I wonder what happens with the Kindle Fire - with only 8GB of space and let's say, 3,000 books with the Perseus collection...does it download all of it?  Amazon says 8,000 books will fit on 8GB, but I think many Logos books...well, they will take up more space than the typical "book".  Anyone have thoughts?  Can you choose to delete or not download onto your mobile device certain books?

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Jacob Hantla | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 29 2011 3:31 PM

If you end up finding that it simply "clutters" your library with unused material you can hide the resources as well from Logos 4.

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Jacob Hantla | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 29 2011 3:33 PM

Joe:

So, I wonder what happens with the Kindle Fire - with only 8GB of space and let's say, 3,000 books with the Perseus collection...does it download all of it?  Amazon says 8,000 books will fit on 8GB, but I think many Logos books...well, they will take up more space than the typical "book".  Anyone have thoughts?  Can you choose to delete or not download onto your mobile device certain books?

The Android and iOS apps keep the books in the cloud by default using minimal storage space on your device. Downloading the books to your device for offline use is a manual process done book-by-book. So 8GB is way more than enough for Logos with or without Perseus

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