Searching for a Particular ENGLISH translation in the LXX

Does anyone have a suggestion as to how I can search for when the Greek word ἀνήρ aner is translated "man" [versus "husband"] in the LXX?
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Just to clarify, when you say the 'english' traslation, are you meaning Brenton, NETS, or the Lexham LXX glosses?
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Generate a Passage List from occurrences of lemma:ἀνήρ in Greek LXX e.g. Lexham LXX Interlinear, Septuagint with Logos Morphology
Run a search for "man" in an English LXX Translation using the Passage List from above.
Dave
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Thanks, Dave. Excellent!
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Awesome! Thank you.
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Wonder about searching literal translation for man that is WITHIN 0 WORDS of manuscript, which has lemma: ἀνήρ in Lexham LXX Greek-English Interlinear ?
I think KS4J nails this as regards using the Lexham Greek-English Interlinear Septuagint to help with this task.
I wanted to point out that with the Lexham Greek-English Interlinear Septuagint, you can be a little more specific if you want. Each interlinear 'cell' has a "Lexical Value" and a "Literal Translation". These are encoded with fields. KS4J hits on this by using the "Literal Translation" field (which contains the text as it would likely be translated in context). You could instead use the "Lexical Value" field to find where a context-free gloss might include the word "man". That would be a wider search, but might be helpful sometime.
Hope it helps.
Rick Brannan
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Thanks, Rick. That is helpful. I tried it in connecvtion with my search.
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Rick Brannan said:
I think KS4J nails this as regards using the Lexham Greek-English Interlinear Septuagint to help with this task.
My first thought was a query like <lemma = lbs/el/ἀνήρ> ANDEQUALS literal:(men, man)
but whilst occurrences have the literal value men, man, husband there are others like person(s), male, one. Because "where translated" was requested one can use a Passage List from a Greek LXX on a translation like Brenton's (albeit not based directly on the same LXX) e.g. husband occurs 81x in Brenton vs 79 (literal:husband) in Lexham LXX Int, allowing for the fact that Brenton does not have Sirach, Judith, 4 Macc, Susanna.
Also interesting: in Num 5:20 Brenton has "being a married woman" in place of the literal "being under a husband".
Dave
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Dave Hooton said:
Run a search for "man" in an English LXX Translation using the Passage List from above.
Hi Dave, this is a new one to me! How do I search my Passage List for "Man" once I have generated the Passage List?
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Dominick Sela said:Dave Hooton said:
Run a search for "man" in an English LXX Translation using the Passage List from above.
Hi Dave, this is a new one to me! How do I search my Passage List for "Man" once I have generated the Passage List?
My Passage List is circled.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Nice tip, thanks Dave!
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Rick Brannan said:
I wanted to point out that with the Lexham Greek-English Interlinear Septuagint, you can be a little more specific if you want. Each interlinear 'cell' has a "Lexical Value" and a "Literal Translation". These are encoded with fields. KS4J hits on this by using the "Literal Translation" field (which contains the text as it would likely be translated in context). You could instead use the "Lexical Value" field to find where a context-free gloss might include the word "man". That would be a wider search, but might be helpful sometime.
My initial morph search looked in All Text, which included man in the "Lexical Value", including when translated as husband. Hence, changed search fields to narrowly answer original question where ἀνήρ was translated as man in LXX. Personally learned Morph Search has another option for excluding husband translation from search results:
Genesis 3:6 is not in search results where ἀνήρ is translated husband. Plural form of ἀνήρ translation (men) is now included in search results.
Thankful for interlinear Display option in Logos 4 (showing manuscript, lemma, lexical value, and literal translation).
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Great! Very helpful. Thanks.
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