Evernote Integration!

Bring it!

In my observation, MS products don't play well with Logos.

Libronix was heavily reliant on IE and needed to be fixed every time Microsoft updated their browser.

Now LOGOS picked Word for creating work files for Personal Books. As is commonly known, Word adds all kinds of mark up that is invisible to users but which trips Logos parser. It's a mess.

I don't think it is God's will for Logos to marry anyone in Microsoft family [;)]

I am completely against the idea. I just cannot stand the icon! I mean, is that an elephant? Really? [:^)]

Yes Bob, basic integration would just look like a right-click option from selected text, copying the text and perhaps reference/page number. Ideally, one could choose between a new Evernote note and the current note, but new note as default would be great. 

Corby Stephens said:

Enough said. OK, maybe not. I would to have an option in the right-click menu to add a highlighted block of text sent to Evernote, perhaps similar to their web clippers for all the major browsers. It would be even better if the clipped note included/sent the bibliographical reverence info with it.

 

Who is with me!

I am!!!!

Not all logos users have heard of evernote software (nevermind onenote) so perhaps you could tell us where to get it, and why it is better than MSword, or opensource office. It might have to be part of the logos 4 package when you buy the original software, otherwise those who don't have evernote will see the icon/option there and never use it - just because they don't know what it is.

In addition to this I am interested in the kind of quote/bibliographic reference that would be imported into evernote. I was trying suggest a similar kind of feature in my post called "logos 4 (content and documentation) - terms of use", but I didn't have the technical wording. The idea is that when you right click on highlighted text to import it to another document outside of logos, there is an option in the menu that tells you about the copyright status of the book, whether it is public domain or not and whether you will be allowed to copy the content to your new document in terms of the logos 4 EULA.

toughski said:

For our notes on Scripture, could an icon be added, just like for a regular note.

For me this is the feature that justifies calling the feature integration because as has already been pointed out we can already move information using copy and paste. I would also want this to extend to all notes not just scripture, add the ability to preview the external note by hovering over the icon with the mouse and it all sounds fantatsic...

Like others I currently use OneNote and not EverNote which I guess creates the problem of which programs would Logos integrate with.

Russ White said:

I would really prefer onenote integration over evernote...

Russ,

I like OneNote as well but have a question that I've not been able to find the answer to. Will you please email me at texasfrys at gmail dot com? Hopefully you can help me.

Thanks.

Brad

Richard DeRuiter said:

Instead of asking Logos to do this, I wonder if this is the sort of thing the SDK could deal with (and allow)? This would take the burden of development and changes in the target product away from Logos, and put it into the hands of volunteers who create and maintain something they are interested in.

I would be willing to donate $ for such development. Or it could be done on a completely commercial basis: Think of Adobe creating a Cadillac of graphics software and a whole cottage industry  of profitable companies selling plugins for Photoshop, etc.

the decision is in the Logos' court.

I do not believe that users mean a simple cut and paste by "integration". I sure don't. By the way, I would prefer OneNote despite my previous post.

If there were to integration with another capturing program, Evernote would make more sense. It's available on all platforms. Mac users could access OneNote on the web, but I'm not always online...I imagine other users who would really use this feature would also not always be online. Evernote is cross platform, so this one makes the most sense, since Logos does support both platforms...the option needs to work with both (and not as a website solution for some). 

Philana Crouch said:

Evernote would make more sense. It's available on all platforms.

Assuming that this is true, then logically we would need:

• Someone from Logos Development to look into the feasibility of developing the integration.
• A user review of Evernote to confirm that it has the capability that is being requested by all of the users.
• Assuming the outcome of the above are both positive then we would need a dialogue between developers and users to determine the details of the integration.

We also have to recognise a couple of issues that this approach will introduce:

• The future of Notes will depend on future/current versions of Logos being compatible with future/current versions of Evernote.
• The security, future availability of our data will be in the hands of Evernote rather than Logos.

Whilst I am currently a OneNote user, I could be persuaded to change if Bob and the Logos team agreed that this is a supportable LONG TERM approach to a fuller function Note capability.

Thank you, Philana!

I don't see Evernote as a replacement for Logos note functionality; more of a small additional bit of functionality.

Evernote is an excellent program, but it's not a word-processor. I use it for all kinds of things, including the research notes for a book I'm working on.

MJ. Smith said:

Having notes in an external piece of software is not an acceptable solution for me. I need to have my notes searched when I cycle through the material again. I see Bible study as a spiral in which each time through builds on what was learned previously. And yes, I mean notes not finished products that I can include in PB's.

With Bob's analogy of writing in the margins of your Bible - would you write in the margins of your Bible if you could never see/read it there? You write in the margins because you want to see it again.

Bob, you have asked a very important question.

For me, integration is more than a right click.  For me, integration of evernote would take place of the note system.  

The item I see with this is that evernote went away from Microsoft's .net/WPF (because they had the same issues with performance that people are still complaining about L4), and L4 is using Microsoft's .net/WPF platform.  

For this to happen, L4 would need to catch the input and output from evernote so that it could translate it into something L4 (or L5) could store and use.

Logos 4 on PC already has an API, but its very limited in its current form.

If it was extended with the right kinds of extra goodies, some developers could write external Notes, or links to products such as One Note or Evernote etc.

Logos would need to do some solid plumbing work, but from there, the external portion would fall to others to do. I would do much more with the API if it was not so sadly limited as it currently is.

I too would love Evernote integration.  There would be a number of ways of doing it.

I am currently exploring the new Faithlife app.  The least intrusive evernote integration would be the ability to Share to Evernote (like you can to Facebook and Twitter).  

It would, as mentioned in a previous post, be excellent if the complete biographical reference information was noted along with the selected text.

The best option would be to be able to sync notes with Evernote.  OliveTree has this option.

Gregory Pittman said:

Right now, there's no way to access our notes in any form in Logos unless we're looking at the specific passage to which the note is attached.

That's not really true (unless I am misunderstanding your point):

You can open up the any note file without going to the passage where the note is attached.  Just go to the file menu and open the appropriate Notes file.

You can also export a note file to a text file or Word doc if you want to use the content outside of Logos.

Granted, those capabilities don't replace the desire for Evernote integration, but I wanted to make sure you understood the current Notes functionality.