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Rick Ross | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Dec 27 2011 7:20 PM

I don't know if this is in the works or not, but, if not, have you thought about creating the 1599 Puritan Bible for use in Logos 4?  If it is part of another collection I would be interested in learning about that also.  I know the Puritan Bible is in the PD and it would be a big project with the text and then the notes.  I have a facsimile and it is rather large to get out on occasion and would be a welcome addition to my library as it would be for others I believe.

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 27 2011 8:02 PM

Richard, sounds like an interesting suggestion. Have you emailed suggest@logos.com? That's probably the best way to get things like this on Logos' radar screen.

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Dennis Parish | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 27 2011 8:38 PM

Richard,

Are you referring to the Geneva Bible, the primary Bible of the 16th century Protestant movement?

--The Bible quoted by Spenser, ShakespeareMiltonJohn Donne and the Metaphysical Poets, John Bunyan, the Mayflower Pilgrims, and Oliver Cromwell in messages to his troops?

--The Bible whose collection of marginal notes (1/3 the length of the Bible itself) was written by John Calvin, John Knox, Miles Coverdale, and other prominent reformation leaders? The Bible which some consider the most complete source of Protestant religious thought available?

--The Bible whose notes so threatened the divine right of kings and the established church's control over sacraments that James the First made its possession a felony and sponsored a new version (without notes) as its replacement?

Yes  I agree that we need the text with notes of this Bible in Logos. (I understand that there is now available a version with modern spellings, which would make it as readable as the NKJV).

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DominicM | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 27 2011 8:42 PM

Q 1) Do you mean the 1599 Geneva Bible

Q  2) if you look at Gen 3.7 does it say aprons or breeches?

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Yes Q2 does make a difference, most sources on Internet have aprons - which I believe is incorrect for the facsimile of 1599 Geneva  

The notes may be there on the net too, but Making a PB might be the fastest way, but proofreading it against any facsimile will take a long time

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Rick Ross | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 27 2011 8:44 PM

Yes, I refer to the Bible that angered the King of England that he would enslave my ancestors, later resulting in their arrival to America around 1635 in what is called Puritan New England.

I will email them to see if we can get some interest or see if they would consider such an undertaking.

Thanks for the information regarding the notes, as I was unaware who actually put those in.

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Rick Ross | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 27 2011 9:06 PM

Yes, mine reads breeches, and we know why it was changed.  I have not found it in Word format or PDF format as of yet.  It could be made into PB with either of those formats.  Proofreading would be a huge project.  Mine is a facsimile as well.  I purchased it when I found Puritan Ancestry in my family and after reading some of what they went through in England before coming to America....what persecution they endured.  I think it would be great to be able to compare this Bible against the King James Version of 1611 to try and see where they differed.  I emailed Logos to see if this would be a possible undertaking.

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Philana Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 27 2011 9:20 PM

I Googled this Bible just to see where this was available. One person has it in PDF, but claims it is copyrighted.

http://www.genevabible.org/geneva.html

Not sure how a Bible from 1599 could in any way shape or form be copyrighted.

Would these files work?

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Rick Ross | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 27 2011 9:59 PM

I found that site as well and he can only copyright the presentation, I believe, however.  The actual book and text is public domain.  I will keep searching and maybe Logos will get back to me.  If they respond I will post what they have to say.  This Bible is a part of Christianity and thus historical.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Dec 27 2011 11:30 PM

RIchard K Ross:
they went through in England before coming to America....what persecution they endured.

Er ... ah ... it was in America my puritan ancestors were persecuted: Anne Hutchinson (1591–1643) and Rebecca Towne Nurse (or Nourse) (February 21, 1621 – July 19, 1692) 

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 28 2011 12:32 AM

RIchard K Ross:
The actual book and text is public domain.

Forum thread => Some PBB Bibles for you to play around with includes Geneva Bible as a docx file.

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DominicM | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 28 2011 11:55 AM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
Geneva Bible as a docx file.

Its not the Original Text, as Gen 3.7 says "aprons" not "breeches", I would need to compare with orginal to see if there were other changes in the text

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Evan Boardman | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 28 2011 3:05 PM

I just downloaded an app for my itouch called PocketSword and it has the Geneva 1599 Bible. Yes it says breeches.

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Evan Boardman | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 28 2011 4:04 PM

P.S. You can also download the notes separately in PocketSword.

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Dr David Cumming | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 20 2014 12:27 AM

I know this is a very very note! The copyright of all 100+ editions of the Geneva Bible has long gone! The copyright is only on the presentation as has been said by Rick. Interestingly the Geneva was the first Study Bible - with notes by none other than people like John Calvin, John Knox amongst others. The "King James Version" was ordered by King James and effectively banned the Geneva from the British Kingdom because some of the notes opposed the "divine right of kings", and also to bow to pressure from the Anglican church in England at the time. More than 80% (it could be 90% - my memory fails me there) is identical to the final version of the Geneva Bible.

Also, the Geneva bible is the one that was taken by the Pilgrims escaping persecution in England, Scotland, Europe etc. With hundreds of conservative protestants being burnt at the stake they wanted to start afresh.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 20 2014 12:59 AM

Dr David Cumming:
Interestingly the Geneva was the first Study Bible - with notes

True with caveats:

Orthodox Bishop Hilarion Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."

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