Using Tense Voice Mood

CLIFTON & LINDA BURRIS
CLIFTON & LINDA BURRIS Member Posts: 1
edited November 2024 in English Forum

I have previously used Libronix. How do I see my TVM numbers in my KJV and then how do I link that to TVM?

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  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    Hi Clifton,

    The Tense Voice Mood resource is very old, and was written to solve a problem that no longer exists. Logos 4 provides much better ways of getting the same information through reverse interlinears. You can learn more about reverse interlinears here:

    http://wiki.logos.com/Reverse-Interlinear$2fInterlinear__Bibles

    http://www.logos4training.com/videos/reverse-interlinears/

    If you have further questions please feel free to ask.

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  • I have previously used Libronix. How do I see my TVM numbers in my KJV and then how do I link that to TVM?

    Welcome [:D]

    Wiki has => Getting Started with Logos with many tips and links, including excellent unofficial tutorial videos by Mark Barnes.

    Wiki Extended Tips for Visual Filters => Examples of visual filters includes 5 Logos Greek Morphology visual filters for grammatical highlighting of case, verb moods, verb tenses, and number, which can be used in KJV (and other English Bibles with Reverse Interlinear tagging) plus Greek New Testaments that have Logos Greek Morphology tagging (e.g. NA27 with McReynolds English Interlinear).

    Personally learned The New Testament in the original Greek: Byzantine Textform 2005, with morphology. has TVM number tagging plus Logos Greek Morphology so used right click to open TVM resource for Rejoice in Philippians 4:4

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    Screen capture has 4 Logos Greek Morphology visual filters for Tense, Voice, Mood, and Number.  Mouse was hovering over Rejoice in "The New Testament in the original Greek: Byzantine Textform 2005" so pop-up appears with tagging information.

    1. Create highlighting palette
    2. Create highlighting styles
    3. Create visual filter(s), choosing appropriate highlighting style
    4. Enable/disable visual filter(s) as desired in your resources

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    " rel="nofollow">Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) said:

    The New Testament in the original Greek: Byzantine Textform 2005, with morphology. has TVM number tagging

    TVM tagging is available in the following resources:

    • Elzevir Textus Receptus (1624) with Morphology
    • The Interlinear Literal Translation of the Greek New Testament
    • King James Version (1769)
    • The New Testament in the Original Greek: Byzantine Textform 2005
    • Scrivener's Textus Receptus (1894) with Morphology
    • Stephen's Textus Receptus (1550) with Morphology

     

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,917

    How do I see my TVM numbers in my KJV and then how do I link that to TVM?

    They are not in the KJV1900 but the reverse interlinear data includes a morphology from which you can search for TVM in Verbs and derive Counts which are more accurate than the TVM resource. You can also search a number of Greek texts with Morphology, and the same principle applies to searching Hebrew bibles when you use the information in the TVM resource.

    EDIT: see texts with TVM in Mark's post

     

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  • Matt Dunavant
    Matt Dunavant Member Posts: 3 ✭✭

    I am enjoying Logos 6 but I desparately miss being able to lay my cursor over a word in the NASB and get the Strong's definition and the same with the KJV with the TVM included.  Is there are way to keep this feature in Logos 6?  While not indepth, it served the purpose of hitting a lot of words fast.  It seems what used to require no clicks of the mouse now takes a couple per word.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,991

    I don't recall how this showed in Libronix 3 but I suspect space was becoming a problem in L4

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  • Matt Dunavant
    Matt Dunavant Member Posts: 3 ✭✭

    It is the strong definition that is left out now.  Any ideas on this?

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,991

    I'm the wrong person to ask about Strong's as I am not a fan. However, if you open an information panel (under Tools) at set the settings for Strong's and hover, you'll see what you want.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • I am enjoying Logos 6 but I desparately miss being able to lay my cursor over a word in the NASB and get the Strong's definition and the same with the KJV with the TVM included.  Is there are way to keep this feature in Logos 6?  While not indepth, it served the purpose of hitting a lot of words fast.  It seems what used to require no clicks of the mouse now takes a couple per word.

    Welcome [:D]

    TVM alternative is using Visual Filters to highlight Tense, Voice, and Mood so can "see" range of Greek verbal expression:

    For information, personally prefer click on a word for update.

    For visual filters, Thankful for user contributions to wiki => https://wiki.logos.com/Extended_Tips_for_Highlighting_and_Visual_Filters#Examples_of_visual_filters

    Keep Smiling [:)]