How to look up what other verses two Hebrew words are found in together.

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DMB | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Jan 25 2012 4:43 PM

I'm not even sure what to call what I want to do, but I want to look up where else in the Hebrew Bible the words בְּי֣וֹם צָרָ֑ה appear together so I can learn more about the phrase and the contexts in which it is used.  How would I go about doing that aside from writing down EVERY place where the first word appears in Scripture and then going to the second word and seeing EVERYWHERE it occurs in Scripture.  This seems like something Logos should be able to do, if I knew how to do it.

Blessings,

~David

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 25 2012 4:51 PM

Put quotes around the words to do a phrase search.

More precisely: open up a search window, click on "Bible Search", select a Hebrew Bible (or you could just do all bibles since only Hebrew ones will have matches), then enter your search words with quotes around them:

"בְּי֣וֹם צָרָ֑ה"

And hit enter:

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 25 2012 4:55 PM

well that's a start, but what about when the words are in the same verse, perhaps separated by a word or two or in a different form of the word?  For example, translated this says something to the effect of "in the day of distress"...what if the beth isn't there and the verse is talking about "the day of distress"?

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Dominick Sela | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 25 2012 5:03 PM

Try using the NEAR construct:

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 25 2012 5:13 PM

ok...good for the first part of my reply, but what about when the preposition is not part of the word or if another preposition is used instead or something along those lines?

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 25 2012 5:25 PM

David Michael Behm:

ok...good for the first part of my reply, but what about when the preposition is not part of the word or if another preposition is used instead or something along those lines?

Here's what I do (it's a bit of a kludge, but it works).

First right-click on the first word, make sure the correct "lemma" is highlighted on the right side of the right click menu and then select "Search this resource." Let Logos do it's thing. Now, go and do the same thing for the second word, and let the search finish. Next (this is the kludge part): copy and paste one search term into the search field of the other and separate the two search terms by NEAR (all caps, make sure there's a space before and after the word NEAR). Then click the little blue arrow and you're good to go. You can then close the search window you're not using.

For me this is easier than remembering search syntax for lemma, identifying or remembering the lemma, and typing in Hebrew etc. Besides it works.

 

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 25 2012 5:38 PM

Todd, Dominick, and Richard

Thank you all for your help!  I know my clumsy wording was only a hindrance and I appreciate you all working with me.

Richard: your solution was exactly what I was looking for!

Thanks again!

~David

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